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If somebody has made up his mind about using a knife as a weapon - telling him about all the risks, disadvantages and viable alternatives I believe is mostly a waste of time. That decision is irrational, it is emotional - so you just can not talk the way out using rational arguments.
But what is probably worth doing - is to advise to look for the answers in the forum. After all, the same topic about knife for SD comes up here every week. The last one with very similar requirements was just a few days ago - about SD knife to take for jogging. Small, light, of course nice and so usefull for untrained person to defend himself/herself against bad guys...
That is not cool, just boring. All the same staff gets told time after time after time...

It's not a knife for me, but yes, my mind is made up and I carry what I please.

Sounds like the arguments anti-gun groups use. :barf:
 
I'm a knife and a gun guy, and I can tell you what you're trying to do is futile. It sounds like you're trying to indirectly arm your wife/gf/daughter who does not believe in carrying a weapon. It really won't hurt for them to carry a knife on them, but as a lot of members here already mentioned A) she probably won't carry it and B) if she is being attacked she is most likely not going to get to it and even if she does, she won't be able to use it effectively and could possibly have the knife be used on her.

I came to realize that some people have it programmed in them, where they can take care of themselves in a situation without any weapons, and there are some people where even if you gave them a gun to CCW they would probably just end up getting shot with their own gun. You can't teach a sheep to kill a wolf.
 
Handguns are illegal to carry here (%&$!ing government) and possession of pepper spray is an indictable offense.

So a small knife could cut and distract an attacker enough to get away.

An animal with claws is better than no claws at all IMO.

where do you live? your law sucks! you can carry a knife but its illegal to carry a pepper spray? i guess your place is a haven for bad guys :D
 
If somebody has made up his mind about using a knife as a weapon - telling him about all the risks, disadvantages and viable alternatives I believe is mostly a waste of time. That decision is irrational, it is emotional - so you just can not talk the way out using rational arguments.
But what is probably worth doing - is to advise to look for the answers in the forum. After all, the same topic about knife for SD comes up here every week. The last one with very similar requirements was just a few days ago - about SD knife to take for jogging. Small, light, of course nice and so usefull for untrained person to defend himself/herself against bad guys...
That is not cool, just boring. All the same staff gets told time after time after time...

Maybe it's boring, but I think it's important for the knife community to give good advice about knife skills. If we want to convince people that knifenuts are not dangerous paranoiacs, we have explaine the difference between street reality and bat tv show.
 
I would go for the kershaw skyline. It's a good size very light has a very ergonomic handle. I put a mirror polish on mine and it slices like crazy now. it will literally fall through a tamato I guess that's due to a lot less friction.
 
where do you live? your law sucks! you can carry a knife but its illegal to carry a pepper spray? i guess your place is a haven for bad guys :D

Canada. It's not only illegal to carry pepper spray, it's illegal to own it. Although bear spray is legal fo bears only. Criminals use that to spray convenience store clerks and rob the place.

Anyways there's actually not much violent crime here which opens up an opportunity for a discussion on the underlying causes of crime...
 
Another thought, flashlight/kubotan
My thoughts exactly. A person not interested in use of knives, as a tool or otherwise, will probably treat it with fear and leave it untouched in a crisis. A person accustomed to the knife will reach for it as second nature.

And I don't know about anyone else, but video training on the kubotan seemed much easier and more informative than any kind of video training one could possibly find on using an edged weapon, of which mall ninjas seem to have a monopoly on.
 
I'm a knife and a gun guy, and I can tell you what you're trying to do is futile. It sounds like you're trying to indirectly arm your wife/gf/daughter who does not believe in carrying a weapon. It really won't hurt for them to carry a knife on them, but as a lot of members here already mentioned A) she probably won't carry it and B) if she is being attacked she is most likely not going to get to it and even if she does, she won't be able to use it effectively and could possibly have the knife be used on her.

I came to realize that some people have it programmed in them, where they can take care of themselves in a situation without any weapons, and there are some people where even if you gave them a gun to CCW they would probably just end up getting shot with their own gun. You can't teach a sheep to kill a wolf.
Whereas some people are sharks and can kill someone else with a pencil(ever see The Dark Knight?).

I think the thought process is backwards. You need to learn how to kill someone with your bare hands before you can learn to kill with tools. Then you need to learn which commonplace tools make good weapons(like a screwdriver, a stapler, or your keys) before moving onto knives.
 
The guy's mind is made up. Since he is in a low crime area, let him indulge his mall ninja fantasies. No harm will probably come from it.

Oh, and as my grandpappy always said "never argue with an idiot! They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
 
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The guy's mind is made up. Since he is in a low crime area, let him indulge his mall ninja fantasies. No harm will probably come from it.

Oh, and as my grandpappy always said "never argue with an idiot! They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Why don't you lighten up on the op, you made your point in your earlier post, seems unneeded to be such an ass to someone who is asking a seemingly sincere question and not a troll.
 
The guy's mind is made up. Since he is in a low crime area, let him indulge his mall ninja fantasies. No harm will probably come from it.

Oh, and as my grandpappy always said "never argue with an idiot! They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Speaking as a mall ninja, mall ninjary is something you grow out of. Once I found the joy in using my knives as tools, I no longer found a pleasure in carrying an Emerson Super Karambit that I never use, and whose tip would probably break off if I ever did use it(utility or otherwise), so I sold it and got some real knives, like a Para 2.

Besides, if he's buying it for a non-knife person friend who probably won't use it anyways, what possible harm could come of it? It's his money to spend, and Mantis knives could always use the business now that we're onto their game:thumbup:.
 
Is the knife actually intended for cutting purposes? If not and SD is the more intended (even though unlikely) use, would a tactical pen be a better choice? It might be kept more accessible than any knife, including in a purse, which might have a dedicated slot for a pen to fit into?

If a knife is really needed, "stylish and small" and SD don't really go together. Cold Steel Mini Lawman is small and could be pressed into SD service. Skyline is small and stylish, but I wouldn't want to depend on it for SD. CRKT Summa is nice-looking, with a slender micarta handle and 3 3/4 inch blade. You might want to give it a look.
 
Kubotan! HAHA, talk about having training to use! Find this person a good blackjack or some other legal blunt instrument.
 
Relax, it isn't criticism. It's common sense. Do what you like.

Tell it like it is Rev. I don't think the op wants common sense or reality thou.
A situation that probably will never take place and more than 1 person may get hurt.
I'd go for a yellow se salt. Small bright color easy to find and 'could' be used for SD if a person had some training.
 
This thread is like an episode of a bad acid trip - perhaps you can drop this in your friend's pocket or pocketbook. Takes zero training or motivation - only fear, or being p*sed off enough to land a thundering blow that will put the fear of God in the assailant! :eek: :D

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smachete!

On topic, There isn't anything that I'm aware of that is legal for SD in Canada... Especially in dense, urban/metropolitain areas b/c of local laws etc... :(

Can't use a rock, stick, screwdriver, baseball bat, or bazooka for SD. Constitutes assault with a deadly weapon. If I said my SAK was for SD, a cop would confiscate it asap. That's why I switched to edc'ing a william wallace broadsword. There's no grey area as to what that sucker is for; cutting watermelons and cleaving pumpkins!

It's ridiculous really, Noctis3880 said it spot on, a person can, and will kill with their bare hands if need be. So why all the backwards, reactive laws/legislation? There's no real thought behind a lot of the rules here unfortunately.

Enough politics. Get an endura4, delica or dragonfly. Spydie's are awesome knives as mentioned above. cziv - I lol'd at what you wrote!:D
 
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This thread is like an episode of a bad acid trip - perhaps you can drop this in your friend's pocket or pocketbook. Takes zero training or motivation - only fear, or being p*sed off enough to land a thundering blow that will put the fear of God in the assailant! :eek: :D

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By far the Best Post and the Only One that is logical.
 
Completely illegal to own.

Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 8

15. The device known as “Brass Knuckles” and any similar device consisting of a band of metal with one or more finger holes designed to fit over the fingers of the hand.
 
Completely illegal to own.

Probably a nice rattan cane would work, not very portable but a very formidable self defense tool with a very small learning curve. Canes have to be legal right? I'd rather have one than the brass knucks.
 
Get them some pepper spray and a SAK. They'll probably just hurt themselves if they try to defend with a knife if they don't even want to think about the possibility before hand.
+1 illegal or otherwise, best/safest option in opinion. what's the saying "better to be judged by twelve than carried by six"

By the way, I own 4 leaks and 3 delicas can't go wrong with either for basic utiliy.
 
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