Snakes are great...Finn Wolf, not so much...

Plenty of time carving wood with scandi-grinds and I've yet to experience any chipping. Knives used have been by Mora, Helle, Blind Horse, Koster, and the Jones Brothers. I

I keep looking at the scandi-grind folders, but have yet to hear glowing reviews on any. So far the best one I have read about is the 2 offerings from Helle - the Skala & Dokka. Downside being they are kind of pricey for what they are.
 
Bigfattyt said:
One reason I have not pulled the trigger on a true zero scandi, or any scandi for that matter.

My spyderco delica has done this too on the lightest cutting. It did it for several cycles of micro chipping and sharpening. Not that big of chips, though.
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Don't blame the grind, blame Cold Steel. It is the steel choice, geometry, or heat treat that is the issue. Staying away from budget import brands solves this problem in my experience.
 
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okto said:
The scandi grind only works well with the right steel, namely high-carbon. There's a reason puukka knives are traditionally made with laminated carbon steel. I wouldn't get a scandi blade in stainless.
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...No...Mora, Helle, and many others make very nice scandi-ground knives and stainless and they perform very well...
 
I got my Finn Wolf had very similar results to the OP. A few fairly standard cuts, through light cardboard, plastic strapping, and a little wood tore the edge of my blade up. Super sharp out of the box, but chipped after the first cut. I wasn't expecting that much from a $40 knife to be honest, but the performance was extremely disheartening. I think a better steel would go a long way on this knife, AUS8 just doesn't come close to producing worthwhile results.
 
Bill_Brasky said:
A few fairly standard cuts, through light cardboard, plastic strapping, and a little wood tore the edge of my blade up.
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That is completely unacceptable for any knife. That's not a grind problem, that's just a crappy blade. I'd return it.
 
okto said:
That is completely unacceptable for any knife. That's not a grind problem, that's just a crappy blade. I'd return it.
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My guess is the grind angle is too low.

Anyone with the Finn Wolf have a digital protractor? Let's see what the angle is!
 
Interesting. I've never had any chipping or rolling issues with my Enzo Trapper in O1. And I abuse that knife.
 
Cold Steel does that steel darned well.

I have it in several knives I've used hard from them for years.

It must be just running too thin on this one.

I am always amused when I hear some one say "only carbon steel" in this designed, or that design.

The right stainless can run circles around carbon steel for bedfellows stability and retention. Now, if chipped, they will be much more difficult to sharpen out!

I like carbon steel for the ease of sharpening, but I don't delude my self, or buy into the myth that carbon steel is the strongest, or "bestest" at anything.
 
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Bigfattyt said:
Cold Steel does that steel darned well.

I have it in several knives I've used hard from them for years.

It must be just running too thin on this one.

I am always amused when j hear some one say "only carbon steel" in this designed, or that design.

The right stainless can run circles around carbon steel for bedfellows stability and retention. Now, if chipped, they will be much more difficult to sharpen out!

I like carbon steel for the ease of sharpening, but I don't delude my self, or buy into the myth that carbon steel is the strongest, or "bestest" at anything.
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Amen. Not only that, but there are many excellent stainless steels that give performance similar to that found in simple carbon steels except with the added corrosion resistance.
 
Boris74 said:
You don't even need a super steel. My Scandi blades are SK5 carbon steel and 12c27. Both will go a long time working over wood. Steel is important though. I have a great looking Puukko in 80crv2 and it gets by in soft wood but is a turd in hard wood. All kinds of chips and rolls after 30 minites of working hard woods.

I'd never buy a Scandi ground blade in AUS8 no matter what the makers advertisements said.

They should have known better, just didn't care or don't expect anyone to actually use it. Probably the later.
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Oh smart Boris, how smart you are, you're probably right, a KNIFE company would make KNIVES that no one will actually use....unlike you though right?
 
Yo Mama said:
Oh smart Boris, how smart you are, you're probably right, a KNIFE company would make KNIVES that no one will actually use....unlike you though right?
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Most large knife companies are in it to make money man, not make quality knives. Especially cheap mass produced import companies like Cold Steel. If you want a good knife, that holds up to its intended use, buy from smaller company that cares about their customers, thoroughly tests their products, uses the right materials and geometry for its intended use, and has good quality control and warranty. Cold Steel fails at more then one of these categories on this model alone. And, I wont even get into their ridiculously mall ninja marketing lol.
 
Tachead01 said:
Most large knife companies are in it to make money man, not make quality knives. Especially cheap mass produced import companies like Cold Steel. If you want a good knife, that holds up to its intended use, buy from smaller company that cares about their customers, thoroughly tests their products, uses the right materials and geometry for its intended use, and has good quality control and warranty.
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So you're going to be pretty vague then? What companies qualify? Are you saying all large companies including the likes of Spyderco, Kershaw, Benchmade, or Buck don't spend a tremendous amount of time thoroughly testing their product or using quality materials as well as engineering excellent geometry? If a lifetime warranty is not good enough for you I don't know what is.... And all those companies as well as many many many others have excellent customer service.

I may not like cold steel or any offerings they have, but at least I'm honest knowing that they spend a tremendous amount of time in those areas.
 
Yo Mama said:
So you're going to be pretty vague then? What companies qualify? Are you saying all large companies including the likes of Spyderco, Kershaw, Benchmade, or Buck don't spend a tremendous amount of time thoroughly testing their product or using quality materials as well as engineering excellent geometry? If a lifetime warranty is not good enough for you I don't know what is.... And all those companies as well as many many many others have excellent customer service.

I may not like cold steel or any offerings they have, but at least I'm honest knowing that they spend a tremendous amount of time in those areas.
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That is not what I am saying. I am saying generally, smaller companies care more about their customers from my experience. I am talking about Cold Steel right now, not those other companies. The fact that this model has so many simple issues shows they don't spend enough time on research and development or quality control(probably too busy making pig slicing videos for mall ninjas). This is no where near the first CS model with issues either, I have owned a few even myself.
 
Tachead01 said:
That is not what I am saying. I am saying generally, smaller companies care more about their customers from my experience. I am talking about Cold Steel right now, not those other companies. The fact that this model has so many simple issues shows they don't spend enough time on research and development or quality control(probably too busy making pig slicing videos for mall ninjas). This is no where near the first CS model with issues either, I have owned a few even myself.
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Ok, it's just that you said most companies so to clarify just cold steel I agree with the rest of your statement fully.
 
Yo Mama said:
Ok, it's just that you said most companies so to clarify just cold steel I agree with the rest of your statement fully.
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O, there are some other suspect large companies too but, I didn't want to derail the thread too much. I just find the smaller companies are almost always the safer bet, albeit often a pricier option.
 
Tachead01 said:
O, there are some other suspect large companies too but, I didn't want to derail the thread too much. ...
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But that's precisely what you did by saying "Most large knife companies are in it to make money man, not make quality knives."

If you don't think CS makes a quality knife then that is certainly relevant to the discussion at hand. Many would agree. Personally I think they make a great "starter" knife that clearly satisfies the needs of many, many people. Clearly this one is a clinker. And many small makers have done that too.

But dropping a broad, generalized, unsubstantiated bomb like you did? :thumbdn: Maybe you should mention that theory to Mr Glesser.
 
Tachead01 said:
O, there are some other suspect large companies too but, I didn't want to derail the thread too much. I just find the smaller companies are almost always the safer bet, albeit often a pricier option.
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2 late thread derailed. Speak your mind really
 
jbmonkey said:
Y'all like snakes i got plenty of cotton mouths, eastern diamondbacks and pygmy rattlers your friend can come and take back up north.
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We have some Massasauga Rattlesnakes around here. :)
Saw one last week. :thumbup:

About 20 years ago I picked up a baby one of them...it was really cute.
It wasn't till I put it down that I said, "Wait a minute, that was a rattlesnake, wasn't it?"

Life is too short to be smart all the time. :D
 
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