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Well I'm going to go against the flow and say that this one does nothing for me. I did like it when I first saw it but each time it comes up I seem to like it a lot less. I think I would have liked to see a better looking handle on it. The more I see it the more I think that as a whole it just does not look entirely right :confused:

This thing is fcuking EPIC !!! And those who can't see it are blind !

International customers want to buy Battle Pappy PLEASE.

When you set a price for this one please think about the Gladius ;)

And it's not female but male. Don't talk like "she is beautifull" because it's he.
 
Well I'm going to go against the flow and say that this one does nothing for me. I did like it when I first saw it but each time it comes up I seem to like it a lot less. I think I would have liked to see a better looking handle on it. The more I see it the more I think that as a whole it just does not look entirely right :confused:

i agree

I hope they refine the finished piece
 
I do not see the interest of a such thick and heavy Guard (and tempered to 58-60 Rc...) :thumbdn:

I would prefer a Handle with Micarta Slabs instead of a 1 Piece Canvas Micarta.

The blade is beautifull. :thumbup:

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Hold on a second guys.

Things are getting a bit out of kilter here. And I am just old enough and grumpy enough to put the skids on.

First I am not trying to begin a flame war.

It seems there are three camps here.

One is the "Love it. Where do I pay?"

The other is, "Not my cup of tea."

Which are both okay.

So what is my beef?

It seems like Mr. Busse has spent a sizable portion of his adult life dedicated to building HIGH PERFORMANCE KNIVES. I cannot see a single design where he has skimped or lost focus on that goal. In the process has made a lot of very aesthetically pleasing knives. Possibly, given this information, there ought to be a bit more trust in a guy who has a lot to risk. As far as I can see this is one of, if not the first of, a knife with a traditional guard.

If he makes a guard a certain way. He has a reason.

If I had to guess, the reason that the handle may seem a bit narrow, is because it has to be in order to slide the guard down over the tang and onto the shoulder formed at the ricasso. I don't know this is the case, just a guess. This proportion can be tricky, and again a guess is that Mr. Busse wanted to leave a lot of steel at the joint between the blade and tang section. This is traditionally the weak spot in a stick tang knife and often the reason many makers place a ferrule or like Mr. Busse did, use thick guard material to bolster the joint.

This is all just supposition. It could be he tweaked it because it felt better that way. Regardless, looking at the BUSSE COMBAT tradition, function often dictates from.

Having said all that, I am the kind of guy who don't buy shoes in the mail. You never know if they are going to fit properly. And whenever I try to buy shoes that LOOK good, often they fit just like Hell. However on the rare occasion I do buy shoes in the mail, you can dang well bet they are made by companies that I trust, like DANNER or RED WING. That is also why one should not order his hunting boots from PAYLESS.

As a maker I have learned that knives for men are like shoes for women.
Sometimes one must belay vanity for something else. I would suggest that, if one is not able to be somewhere to actually try it, then you either pass it by, or trust the opinion of those that have had in-hand time with the knife.

C'mon really how often do you look down at your shoes and think, "Damn I look good!" Why should it be any different when you are using a knife?

When I saw the ridges which have been machined on the surface of the handle, I immediately saw that those ridges would push the hand into the back of the guard during high pressure impact. Mr. Busse could have allowed the handle to be smooth and thicker. He could have ditched the ridges altogether. But then he would not be Jerry Busse, and his knife would not have that feel his knives are known for.

As far as the ricasso being too long, or the blade being to wide, or the other beef's that have been brought up, I can't see this as a HUGE problem for two reasons. First is THE BUSSE CUSTOM SHOP. Seems like they can do whatever changes you want done. And it looks like they do a dang fine job of it.

Second, having looked at the hundreds of blade designs that have been produced by the 3 BUSSE ENTERPRISES there should not be anybody who can't find their own personal knife.

Ok, Ok....I am getting off my pulpit.

I think the main reason there is so much grumbling is that BUSSE has spoiled it's customer for so long they don't remember what life was like before there was a BUSSE COMBAT KNIFE, or a BATTLE MISTRESS.

Now you can start sending me all the nasty grams.

Shane

P.S. One point of courtesy. Misspelled profanity is still profanity. We are all grown-ups. Can't we use grown-up words without the need to be vulgar for emphasis?
 
I very much like that it is a stick tang I would like to see some more ass in the handle meaning more flare of coffin shape

I would like to see a thinner guard but then what if some genius wants to wants to hammer it thru a car the guard if it where thinner might bend :D


It needs a sharpened clip


Other than that I think it is a great proto type
 
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Hold on a second guys.

Things are getting a bit out of kilter here. And I am just old enough and grumpy enough to put the skids on.

First I am not trying to begin a flame war.

It seems there are three camps here.

One is the "Love it. Where do I pay?"

The other is, "Not my cup of tea."

Which are both okay.

So what is my beef?

It seems like Mr. Busse has spent a sizable portion of his adult life dedicated to building HIGH PERFORMANCE KNIVES. I cannot see a single design where he has skimped or lost focus on that goal. In the process has made a lot of very aesthetically pleasing knives. Possibly, given this information, there ought to be a bit more trust in a guy who has a lot to risk. As far as I can see this is one of, if not the first of, a knife with a traditional guard.

If he makes a guard a certain way. He has a reason.

If I had to guess, the reason that the handle may seem a bit narrow, is because it has to be in order to slide the guard down over the tang and onto the shoulder formed at the ricasso. I don't know this is the case, just a guess. This proportion can be tricky, and again a guess is that Mr. Busse wanted to leave a lot of steel at the joint between the blade and tang section. This is traditionally the weak spot in a stick tang knife and often the reason many makers place a ferrule or like Mr. Busse did, use thick guard material to bolster the joint.

This is all just supposition. It could be he tweaked it because it felt better that way. Regardless, looking at the BUSSE COMBAT tradition, function often dictates from.

Having said all that, I am the kind of guy who don't buy shoes in the mail. You never know if they are going to fit properly. And whenever I try to buy shoes that LOOK good, often they fit just like Hell. However on the rare occasion I do buy shoes in the mail, you can dang well bet they are made by companies that I trust, like DANNER or RED WING. That is also why one should not order his hunting boots from PAYLESS.

As a maker I have learned that knives for men are like shoes for women.
Sometimes one must belay vanity for something else. I would suggest that, if one is not able to be somewhere to actually try it, then you either pass it by, or trust the opinion of those that have had in-hand time with the knife.

C'mon really how often do you look down at your shoes and think, "Damn I look good!" Why should it be any different when you are using a knife?

When I saw the ridges which have been machined on the surface of the handle, I immediately saw that those ridges would push the hand into the back of the guard during high pressure impact. Mr. Busse could have allowed the handle to be smooth and thicker. He could have ditched the ridges altogether. But then he would not be Jerry Busse, and his knife would not have that feel his knives are known for.

As far as the ricasso being too long, or the blade being to wide, or the other beef's that have been brought up, I can't see this as a HUGE problem for two reasons. First is THE BUSSE CUSTOM SHOP. Seems like they can do whatever changes you want done. And it looks like they do a dang fine job of it.

Second, having looked at the hundreds of blade designs that have been produced by the 3 BUSSE ENTERPRISES there should not be anybody who can't find their own personal knife.

Ok, Ok....I am getting off my pulpit.

I think the main reason there is so much grumbling is that BUSSE has spoiled it's customer for so long they don't remember what life was like before there was a BUSSE COMBAT KNIFE, or a BATTLE MISTRESS.

NOw you can start sending me all the nasty grams.

SHane
 
As for me, I'm kinda on board with the crew of absolutely loving the blade but the handle / guard not doing so much for me.
 
I just bought one. Part of what made me buy it was that it doesn't look like every other Busse knife. It's something different. I put off my purchase for a while because I wasn't sure how much I liked the looks of it, but after having it in hand I love it. The guard looks clunky, but it feels perfect. The handle isn't what you're used to, but it's just right for this knife. The BP is a big knife, but it feels light and quick in the hand.
 
:rolleyes: It all boils down to "different strokes for different folks".

I have the Battle Pappy and I love it! That said, I would prefer maple burl slabs for the handle, but I KNEW what I was getting when I pre-ordered it. If something about a Busse knife bothers you THAT much -- just don't buy it! For me, the Battle Pappy screamed " come and get me, come and get me"! :thumbup::D:thumbup:
 
First, I saw pictures of this design, I thought it was cool for being different but not too appealing in looks and wasn't going to purchase one.

Second, I went to AG Russell and held one in my own hand and received my mental spanking for judging a book by it's cover. :o :eek: Criticize to your heart's content, but if you haven't held it, you truly won't understand it, plain and simple. ;)

Third, I bought one at the show and had a long time to think about it.

Fourth, it showed up and it grew on me more the longer I held it. This thing is pure genius!! Fast in the hand with a well balanced blade heavy design and a very sharp convex edge. The handle is almost as big in my hand as the magnum grips on the FBM LE and it is very stout with a much bigger INFI tang than the Basic 11 which is plenty strong. Yet, at 21.90 oz this is the lightest weight FBM LE type blade you have ever held and it screams to be used. A Bushwacker weighs about an ounce more but is about 2/3 as thick. If I didn't already have the other chopper users I do, I would have already used mine.

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Here's my opinion FWIW...

You can please some people all the time. You can please all people some of the time. But, you can't please all the people all the time...

It is what it is.

When I first saw the Battle Pappy, I had some up & down thoughts on it...
*Nice blade shape.
*Interesting handle that's obviously meant for use. Rough micarta, grooves, and the shape widens heading towards the butt.
*Interesting guard.
As opposed to:
*Stick tang.
*Blade thickness.
*Interesting guard. ;)

I decided to jump on the pre-order list based solely on seeing one image anyway. Why? ...Well, this is Jerry Busse we're talking about and this knife, to me, is an "out of the box" creation as far as Busse knives go. Jerry knows the game, and he's got the talent... How bad could it really be?

Personally, I like it...and the more I handle it, the more I like it. :thumbup: Great grip with the handle. Surprisingly light in the hand for its thickness. Even with the guard's weight, the balance point is in front of the guard, but not too far. (I'd have to re-check to be sure, but I think that it's right around where the edge begins at the top of the choil. ETA: It balances on the back of my forefinger right at the Busse logo.) The guard is comfortable when the hand presses up against it due to its shape. The handle is long enough...at least for me. :thumbup: The only major thing that I'd like to see is a take-down version, and maybe a sharpened swedge...although I can live without these.

I like it when Jerry chooses to think outside the box and tries something new, something outside the "comfort zone" of what we are used to seeing from Busse Combat...and I'm looking forward to more of his ideas that don't really quite fit the "Busse mold" as we know it, but still contain that Busse "flavor". :thumbup:

Thank you, Jerry... And please keep 'em comin', Bossman!! :):thumbup::thumbup:

sure looks nice, but is the handle big enough?

Heh! ...Have you ever seen Jerry's hands???? The first time I shook his hand I glanced down and thought, "where'd my hand go?"! ;) ...If it's big enough for him, I'd say that it's big enough for over 90% of this world's population!! :D:thumbup:
 
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I do not see the interest of a such thick and heavy Guard (and tempered to 58-60 Rc...) :thumbdn:

I would prefer a Handle with Micarta Slabs instead of a 1 Piece Canvas Micarta.

The blade is beautifull. :thumbup:

BCSBattlePappy2.jpg

+1…
Precisely my sentiments regarding this BEAST!!!

Jaxx pretty much nailed it: "You can please some people all the time. You can please all people some of the time. But, you can't please all the people all the time...

It is what it is."
and I couldn't agree more!
 
Well I should be getting mine "soon". When I held the blade at the AG Russell show I got a warm and fuzzy feeling all over.
 
It may be in the thread already, so forgive me if I missed it... What was the price direct from Busse had you pre-ordered. I'm not sure why anyone would dislike anything the Busse's come out with-after so many years of continued success and providing such a plethora of choices. Anyway, just curious on the show price...or Busse direct prices. Was this sold during the last ganza-I missed? :mad: Hey-gratz to all who have this fine piece of unique steel. Have a great day folks! :)
 
It may be in the thread already, so forgive me if I missed it... What was the price direct from Busse had you pre-ordered. I'm not sure why anyone would dislike anything the Busse's come out with-after so many years of continued success and providing such a plethora of choices. Anyway, just curious on the show price...or Busse direct prices. Was this sold during the last ganza-I missed? :mad: Hey-gratz to all who have this fine piece of unique steel. Have a great day folks! :)

I believe it was $583.00 at the A.G. Russell show as a "Special Show Price".

Where do I place an order to get this gem? I tried reading the whole forum and didn't find anything.

Thanks in advance.

There is no such thing like simple order placing in the Busse world my friend. I've been waiting for this knife since summer 2010 and I've been waiting for answers on similar questions as yours for months.
This knife could appear in the next "Ganza" which is special one time, very short offering here on bladeforums. It could be this month or the month after it but nobody knows when it's going to happen, so just wait patiently and watch this site for a GANZA.
 
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