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So was it a good lesson, or was he being kind of a jerk?

The guys is an ass, and it would be my mission to get his model girlfriend to take my meat as well! :D
 
he only wanted a tiny piece of steak. So I said, "Are you sure?"........and he said, "yes." So I was cutting him a small piece, and he says ........."Even smaller, all I want is a little slice...
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OP, I don't follow your reasoning at all. How is it not honorable to give him the slice HE chose? HE directed the cut, not you, so HE chose the small piece, not you.

The two of you had a good faith agreement which HE broke. Let's say the two of you promise to meet somewhere, but later he calls and tells you he's not coming. Would you still go? I mean, you gave your word and all that'd you'd be there........ Only a fool would still go, since the other person broke the agreement. Same deal here.

Were it me, to keep things on as friendly terms as possible would've been to look at him straight in the eye and say, "Nice try. Now, since you're suddenly feeling so much better, I can cut this steak for real, or you can be stuck with the small piece you already chose. Which will it be?"

If it went further downhill from there, I simply would've left. I'd also hope he'd call me sometime later to help him move.........
 
Sometimes people are jerks because we let them get away with it. I would have popped the small piece in my mouth and ate it. Then I would have yelled, "Do Over!" and cut the large piece in half and taken mine. I'd have left the other half for him to decide what kind of jerk he wanted to be then. ...and I'd do all this while laughing so he couldn't make it a serious issue. You should have taken the situation in hand to prevent him from becoming what you allowed him to become. I'm not saying it's your fault, it's just that you let him take control of the situation.
 
He sounds like an idiot, and you were dumb enough to heed his word.

I would have told him to shut the f*** up, and eaten both pieces of steak.
 
ieraseu said:
...What is your opinion on this situation? Did he have a valid point, or was he just being somewhat of a jerk? How would you have reacted?
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It sounded like you were just going camping with a friend so this guy was totally being an a$$hole. I would have cut the steak in equal portions and while I was passing him his half, I would have punched him extremely hard in the stomach and asked him if he still felt sick. It makes me wonder what a guy like this would do in a survival situation. Would he take all the food or would he ration it between the two of you?
 
An equal, "in my eyes" friend, would not get away with behavior like that.

(Quote)"Nothing at all. I am just teaching you a valuable lesson. You can never plan what is going to happen when you are out in the bush. Anyone can get lost and be caught without provisions, and furthermore, you should know better then to rely on someone else. You are not going to break your word are you? It's only one night. Give me the big piece of the steak. "

Who's your friend, Yoda?
 
ieraseu said:
Later in the evening when it was time to grill up the steak, we did so and he said his stomach was acting up after riding so long and that he only wanted a tiny piece of steak. So I said, "Are you sure?"........and he said, "yes." So I was cutting him a small piece, and he says ........."Even smaller, all I want is a little slice to get some flavor into my mouth, that's all." So I move the knife over and cut him this very small piece.

Then he says, "Remember that when we agreed to split the money for this steak, we also agreed that one person would cut, and the other would choose which half he wants?"

I replied......."Yes."

So he went on........."Good, I want the big part, you can eat the tiny slice."

I said, "What are you trying to pull?"

And he said, "Nothing at all. I am just teaching you a valuable lesson. You can never plan what is going to happen when you are out in the bush. Anyone can get lost and be caught without provisions, and furthermore, you should know better then to rely on someone else. You are not going to break your word are you? It's only one night. Give me the big piece of the steak. "

So I grudgingly gave him the big piece of steak and spent a pretty hungry night out after cycling all day. It was just one night, so not like it was life threatening or anything.

What is your opinion on this situation? Did he have a valid point, or was he just being somewhat of a jerk? How would you have reacted?
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My opinion is that you lack the ability to think clearly. You had possession of a knife and a steak and you willingly gave up the steak to an idiot.

My response would have been simple and well reasoned like this:
"I am not interested in any silly 'lesson' I was cutting and you told be you only wanted a small piece of steak and that is what I have cut for you - here it is!"

My reply to "You are not going to break your word are you?" would be something about him saying his stomach hurt and he only wanted a small piece of steak - he isn't going back on what he said is he? If someone lies to me and tries to cheat me and then says "you are not going ot break your word are you" - I would NEVER respond by sticking to my word given before the lying & cheating.

ieraseu said:
Is this in reference to me? Yes, I let him have the steak. I may not have liked the situation, but I was not going to break my word for a $12 steak or whatever, so I accepted it and spent a hungry night out.

It may not have been 'fair', but I took it like a man without complaint.
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It sounds like you feel you were honor bound to stick to the original agreement - you may have said you would let him choose the piece of steak, but since then he said he only wanted a small piece. You sound gullible - want to buy a bridge? The original agreement was surely something like - the person cutting does his best to cut the steak into 2 equal halves and the other person chooses which half he wants, that way the steak gets shared fairly. When someone changes their minds and requests that you cut them a small piece of steak - that is entirely different to the original agreement and I would not take be screwed over in that situation.

Bigdumplings said:
I mean the lesson here is dont let people walk all over you, that is if there is a lesson
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This is the simplest answer and it seems that it is a lesson you never learned.

How hard would it have been to ask the jerk if he wanted to go back to the original agreement of you cutting the steak in half and him choosing the half he wanted or if he wanted the smaller piece he asked you to cut? That would be the 'being nice' solution.

How hard would it have been to lick the bigger piece and say "mmmmm, tasty" and then give him the smaller piece, then to say "this is a lesson for YOU, if you don't want a tiny piece of steak don't lie about a stomach ache and ask for a tiny piece of steak". That would be the 'standing up for yourself' solution.

Or how about:
Him: "Remember that when we agreed to split the money for this steak, we also agreed that one person would cut, and the other would choose which half he wants?"
You: "Not really, but I clearly remember you asking me to cut this tiny piece of steak for you, you weren't lying to me were you?"
 
guy is an asshole...and you are an idiot for letting him screw you...is that really the best you can do in friends...pick better friends...
 
I think the OP should post a picture of this guy. Then all 8 pages of posters can vow to give him a wedgie the next time they seem him on the trails. Think of it, an entire North American Network of Wedgie Mercenaries.....


.........For god's sakes thats the 45 th time this year......it was only a steak man....waaaaa waaaa.......:D :D
 
I would have cut the steak directly in half and slid the smaller piece onto the top of his even half and let him know that the man with the knife is the man making decisions tonight, he is blessed to have an equitable man at the stick, someone not so nice might have made him spend the night hogtied and gagged in a snuggie.
 
kgd said:
I think the OP should post a picture of this guy. Then all 8 pages of posters can vow to give him a wedgie the next time they seem him on the trails. Think of it, an entire North American Network of Wedgie Mercenaries.....


.........For god's sakes thats the 45 th time this year......it was only a steak man....waaaaa waaaa.......:D :D
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See this is how grass roots movements get started. can I join NANWeM?
 
David E said:
OP, I don't follow your reasoning at all. How is it not honorable to give him the slice HE chose? HE directed the cut, not you, so HE chose the small piece, not you.

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Were it me, to keep things on as friendly terms as possible would've been to look at him straight in the eye and say, "Nice try. Now, since you're suddenly feeling so much better, I can cut this steak for real, or you can be stuck with the small piece you already chose. Which will it be?"
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Well put. The guy is a jerk, and the OP is an absolute moron for letting him get away with it. I would have shoved the big piece down the back of my pants and gotten it nice and covered with all the ass sweat I worked up on the bike ride, and told him to enjoy it.
 
This is a bizarre and disturbing story, and the OP's attempts to rehabilitate his own behavior are equally distressing.
 
i dont get it was this guy a personal survival teacher or just a buddy you brought along? if it was just a buddy,he would never have gotten a PIECE of that steak,nor would he be my "buddy" any longer.
 
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