"sole authorship" - from a collectors point of view

I think that sole authorship can be a very good thing that a guy can take pride in.
Not all makers care to do every step themselves, but some of us are still young enough and have enough free time to take a knife from concept to finished blade all by themselves.

I also think that any knife thats truly hand-made also is something that a knifemaker can take pride in doing.
Making knives is a bit of a lost art, so it's nice that there still are some guys who take the time to make a knife with their own hands.

In the future I hope to one day be in a position where I can make my own steel too. I think this is a worthy goal for a bladesmith like myself to have and would be a lot of fun to learn and get good at.
as for the question, "Is it important?".....I think it is important to me that my knife is hand made by myself alone.
But I see the point in some who would think that one knife looks about the same as another.
I guess it falls to the hand-made knifemaker who is into "sole authorship" knives that he brings the history of his knives up to others in a manner that helps them see why it's so important to him.
 
I have decided to keep myself polite and cheery and NOT post my thoughts... but I will add again that I am in complete agreement with my friend Mike Fitzgerald.

There is absolutely no reason to rile people up just for the sake of doing it. Especially in this forum.

And to my other friends here that may be at their boiling point... Remember what my mom always said, "Don't worry about it, just consider the source."
 
Allan Molstad said:
I think that sole authorship can be a very good thing that a guy can take pride in.
Not all makers care to do every step themselves, but some of us are still young enough and have enough free time to take a knife from concept to finished blade all by themselves.

I also think that any knife thats truly hand-made also is something that a knifemaker can take pride in doing.
Making knives is a bit of a lost art, so it's nice that there still are some guys who take the time to make a knife with their own hands.

In the future I hope to one day be in a position where I can make my own steel too. I think this is a worthy goal for a bladesmith like myself to have and would be a lot of fun to learn and get good at.
as for the question, "Is it important?".....I think it is important to me that my knife is hand made by myself alone.
But I see the point in some who would think that one knife looks about the same as another.
I guess it falls to the hand-made knifemaker who is into "sole authorship" knives that he brings the history of his knives up to others in a manner that helps them see why it's so important to him.
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:barf: So.......guess you've got nothing to say about the Fowler knock offs huh?
 
YoooHooo, stay with me Allan:rolleyes:

Explain why you make the Fowler copies and go on about "your" superior design elements and not once mention the obvious Fowler influence? Isn't that plagerism? Look here if you don't know what I am talking about. http://eastof29.tripod.com/daqotahforge2/id20.html

I think the pot stirring and this points to your crooked nature. What do you have to say about that? I'm sure Mr. Fowler has no idea about why you would do such things as he is a gentleman.

Does anyone else find this a bit ODD? Thanks Don for checking that link out. There is some very curious behavior going on there.
 
How long is this next line of bull going to take because my bed is calling:yawn: :D
 
Kerry Hampton said:
and not once mention the obvious Fowler influence? .
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Did you even see the link I sent?
Am I talking to a wall here, minds already made up?
If you would visit the link I have given you can see how things are...You can see who I seek advice from, who I ask questions of, who sends me advice and who has helped me from the very start of my knifemaking life.

I then also might show you a little bit of advice email I got a few years ago about the use of a known "name" to link to a knife I make to.

I was warned that the moment I make an open 'linking" to a well known and GOOGLED name, (or to try to link a thing I made to something that someone else well known has made), I am in effect stealing.

There are people I guess that do this, they use the ability of GOOGLE and the way it scrolls all the sites , farming titles and names, as a means to draw people away from the person they were searching for and onto their sites.
Do a GOOGLE search of "Britney Spears" or "Hilton" and you can see that this trick does work,,,so the people that have objected to it's use to me do have a strong case to make...

The best way I know of to give correct credit , is to be open to them in person, (or on their own website or in an email) and tell them that you owe all you have acheaved in the craft of bladesmithing to them...

But then again, some of our teachers already know full well the effects they have had on us. They see it clearly as they watch the work of our hands change in a direction we could not have reached for alone.....

Want to know what I have been doing, what I have made this last winter, what advice Im attempting to follow now?...the link will show you it all, it's all there...

If the truth be known, I have had to change a few of my older Internet postings to make sure that I was no longer going to be seen as attempting to link my knives to others names who are more well known.
This is part of the advice I received from someone I listen to, and so,,,well, thats the way things are...
 
I knew I should have went to bed. :D

Allan Molstad said:
Did you even see the link I sent?
Am I talking to a wall here, minds already made up?
If you would visit the link I have given you can see how things are...You can see who I seek advice from, who I ask questions of, who sends me advice and who has helped me from the very start of my knifemaking life.
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I visited the Fowler forum link you are refering to. That thread was done in January 2007 when you were still "Alan". Doesn't answer the question but redirects from my original question.

Allan Molstad said:
I then also might show you a little bit of advice email I got a few years ago about the use of a known "name" to link to a knife I make to.

I was warned that the moment I make an open 'linking" to a well known and GOOGLED name, (or to try to link a thing I made to something that someone else well known has made), I am in effect stealing.

There are people I guess that do this, they use the ability of GOOGLE and the way it scrolls all the sites , farming titles and names, as a means to draw people away from the person they were searching for and onto their sites.
Do a GOOGLE search of "Britney Spears" or "Hilton" and you can see that this trick does work,,,so the people that have objected to it's use to me do have a strong case to make...

The best way I know of to give correct credit , is to be open to them in person, (or on their own website or in an email) and tell them that you owe all you have acheaved in the craft of bladesmithing to them......
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Good idea. Show us a thread or email or something for God's sake that gives him credit for your inspiration. Or maybe Ed can come on this thread and say that I am picking on you, then I will apologise to you and him for bringing this up.
 
Kerry Hampton said:
Show us a thread or email or something for God's sake that gives him credit for your inspiration. .
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Did you go to the link and have even a short look around?
Everything I do is there, I talk about every step I make,,,,

How can you not see the real work some of the most well known knifemakers in the world have put in to helping me both get started on the work and keep my spirits up along this path?

How can you not see the effects of their help on me?

Im am not very good at knives and this art at all, and I never will be.
I never will be as good as you are and thats a cold hard fact of life.
But I am better for this effort myself for what I have learned at the foot of the world's true masters of this craft.
 
Mr. Molstad,

At first I did not fully understand why these men were averse to your presence in this forum - so I did some research. I viewed summaries of all your posts here under all your various guises (AlanMolstad, AllanMolstad, DaQo'Tah Forge). I searched for all your names on the net, and could only find the links that had been posted by others in this thread. Besides the various tripod sites and you-tube videos, I could not find any pictures of a completed blade of yours (The only using blade I could find was the disputed "Fowler" knife). For someone who claims to take so much pride in their work, and seems to hold strong opinions on bladesmithing, -- You don't seem to have produced much of a portfolio.

These quotes from the "Fowler" knife site I found especially interesting:

"Pound for pound, a forged 52100 steel blade can consistently out cut the same steel blade that was only produced via stock-removal."

"The reason the DaQotah Targhorn looks the way it does, is that I have attempted to place all my knowledge of a lifetime spent using blades into the design of one truly exceptional knife."

"The Targhorn reflects my experiences with knives that have failed me in the field. I sought to bring into one package, all the understanding I have gained about the nature of a true High Performance Blade."

You seem to be lying to your potential customers.

Under your various pseudonyms, you have been here since 2002 and made nearly 1500 posts to date. There is not one pic posted in the gallery of your work (or any other area that I could find). The makers here that are disagreeing with you are men I can respect as their words are backed by their work and reputation - your words seem to be nothing more than unfounded opinion.
 
I think if you sign up on the Ed Fowler website that you are then able to see all the photos on the different topics.

Trust me, I have tossed a ton of photos onto the site .
The reason I have been able to really make my posts on the Ed Fowler site so photo-heavy is that my new computer has a printer/scanner and I can up-load the scans in seconds...

this is a trick that even Ed has yet to master...LOL

And this makes up for the fact that I no longer have any working web camera.
My wife does have a 3 year old palmPilot that takes photos too, but that explanes the poor quality of all the photos I have posted of my shop.
All the knife photos I have on Ed's site are just printer/scans, unless they are the outdoor shots my wife uploaded at her work.
I also have posted a bunch of video clips onto YouTube,,,(something that takes guts of foolishness to do by the way) of the way i have tested a few blades, forged a few blades, as well as a bunch of video clips of how I make a sheath.

Everyone else got as many YouTube videos of them making a knife posted as I do?

I have not taken a photo of every knife I have ever made...but I have tried to share with Ed the different stages Im at at the time, and this helps him understand where about I run into my many problems.
The photos are enough for Ed to see if the Blade is too long, or the Ricasso is too curved,, or as on one knife the tip curve was too pointy, and so he is able to suggest real-time changes that I can do to save the blade.http://knifetalkonline.com/smf/index.php?topic=85.0

And, becides,Im not a professional knife maker,,,I just forge blades because I think it's fun,,,,I dont sell blades from a website, nor do I ever take orders...
I make knives because it fun, I sell a few to my co-workers and interested friends who visit, or hand them out at Christmass as gifts
I finished a knife I made from the very lasty deer my dad ever got to shoot before he passed...
It's not that great of knife, but there is none I value in the world more
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So I dont pretend Im in the same lane as guys who make the big bucks off of this craft.
But nor do I ever allow people to try to treat me as if Im BUCK knives , or COLD STEEL...and force me to live up to their business standards. That would be unjust as attempting to force a kid with a koolaid stand to pay SS tax withholding.

But are we not just a 'little" bit off topic here?
and this not a fare thing to do to another guy's topic...
If you want to ask me more of the personal questions?...just send me an email...
If you have a problem with something I have writen on this topic of sole authorship?, then quote me the verse and I will tell you my views.
But for the life of me I dont think anyone has yet really disagreed with one word I have writen on this topic,,,,,
 
NDallyn said:
The makers here that are disagreeing with you .
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about what?
Thats the question I cant get an answer for,,,
You know, you guys should read the posts of guys like Keven Cashen who knows his stuff, to the point he is not afraid to post the quotes of people he disagres with so that everyone can know where the guy went wrong or messed up.
If there is some point I have made on this topic that you think goes against science, or the normal ways of doing things, well, post the quote so that I can see whats the problem.
Just telling me, "You suck" is not really helpfull.....
If someone disagrees with me on the topic of Sole Authorship, I have yet to figure out where..
They clearly dont like me as a person, and Im fine with that,,,But disagree with me?...that Im not so sure about.

I think that the reason no one is quoteing from my 3 major posts on this topic is that they have searched and cant find a place to disagre with me on.
 
let me get this straight...someone who has said that "Pound for pound, a forged 52100 steel blade can consistently out cut the same steel blade that was only produced via stock-removal."...is telling others to actually read post's by kevin cashen???? have you been reading them? has everything he's said simply gone in one ear and out the other? not to mention the "I make a soft back because a bent blade is better than a broken one" line that you seem so fond of...I'm sorry to say that because of the sheer volume of posts concerning you on this thread I've felt compelled to remove you from my ignore list so I could try and get the whole story, I ought not to have bothered since there seems to be little of actual substance to your posts
 
so,,,as far as "this topic of Sole Authorship" goes....there is nothing you can pick out that that i have writen that you think is in error?

Im very sure that there are likely hunderds and hundreds of other things I have posted in 10+ years of being on-line and member of message forums and websites that you may disagree strongly with,(You want to go into the whole long list?)
,,
And,, yes, I do listen to people like Keven , and based on such advice from him and from others I have come to trust I do have many new views on matters that back say,,,oh,,, back in the 90s I felt one way, and now feel a different way.
Thats the point of a message forum,,,it's a place where ideas can be shared, things can be tested, views can be changed...No one is forever tied to yesterday, for if we were no one could walk into the dawn of a new beginning.

You know how i started out making my first knife?
I was at work and a knife failed on me...and I opened a BLADE Mag and saw a story writen by a guy who was talking about the very reason my blades at work failed....and at the end of the BLADE story was a web address to this forum....and so, I wrote to the guy,,and he wrote back and tole me to think about making my own blade to bring to work...
The Internet changed my whole life in that one moment...

Im not in the 90s anymore,,,,
Im here, on this topic.
 
Allan,

I'll solve the Ed Fowler question for you. I'll give him a call tomorrow and see if he even knows who you are.

Clearly, you maybe a beginner, or have a few months experience several times over, but you are not an experienced knifemaker. With your constant deflections and excursions from the truth, you really ought not be a preacher because your grasp of living the Scriptures is exceeded only by your personal experience at knife making.

You seek the approval of men here. You have your reward in full. Rather than spend so much time here commenting about things you personally know little about, your time would be better spent researching your next sermon. And from a better source than the forums.

I'd rather have PM'd you about this, but you don't accept PMs. Thre is little wonder why. If your intention here has been to give Christians a black eye, job well done. If it has been to expose an abyssmal ignorance, job well done. Again, if has been to see your words in print, well done. If it has been toward anything constructive, or meaningful in the way of discussion, you have failed equally well.

Experience will teach, as you grow older, that arrogant pride coupled with true ignorance (not stupity) will destroy you faster than most things in life.

I wish you well as you learn the value of veracity, integrity and knowledge founded upon your own experience. Until then, best wishes.

If you disagree with this, then put aside the smoke screen, excuses, warped ideas, arrogant pride and show us your work. Others have cameras. In that vast cloud of important people you hang out with, someone must own a camera. How about your vast customer base? One of them can post a pic.

However, having 2 pics of Fowler knockoffs and a batlet do not make you a knifemaker. I know a 14 year old who made a batlet with a hacksaw and angle grinder. From the pics, the Fowler knock off isn't even forged to shape. You started the bevel on a flat surface with a grinder.

To compare your vast experience with a Fowler knock off against a Kabar like my dad carried during WW2, or a 70's issue military survival knife is preying on the ignorance of others. Neither was designed as a hunting knife, neither did you design the knife you allege to have invented.

You sir, simply have all the appearances of a fraud. A follower of Jesus wouldn't do what you do, an experienced knifemaker wou;d probably not say what you say. Your posts are without merit.

I urge you to clean up your act. Start with your profile. If the posted profile truly represents your lifestyle, delete the part about trying to save others from their sin. Pride is repeatedly condemned in the Word. And argue that one with God, He wrote it, I didn't. If your goal is to antagonize others, one day you wll surely antagonize the wrong person and the price will be dear. I've witnessed that one all too often. I hope you survive the experience so you can learn from it. Some don't.

I will waste no more words on you here. I will pray for you. Don't tell me you don't need it because we all do. If you truly are convinced of your absolute rightness, please advise us when you plan to do your first public miracle so we can all come and watch.

Please forgive any spelling errors. I ran my finger into the grinder when my push stick slipped. It's not quite right yet.

Gene
 
a lot of personal advice, and Im not sure where you get the World War knife comments?
(is that a shot at me about a different topic dealing with my views on the choil cut-out that ?, If it is?, if you want to drag that into this topic?...if thats what you meant?...well, then I dont know how to answer you. You want to talk now about survival knives?....You want me to defend my views on survival knives?...here?...fine, but I dont think it is very fare to the original topic but fine... Here are my views on a design of a good survival knife:
I have seen a photo offered on our survival forum here thats shows what I think makes a good survival knife design.
It was fixed blade, full tang..didnt have a big guard to get in the way, and didnt have a big choli cut-out to snag on stuff.
The sheath was made of that Kidex stuff with a outer covering of that black bulistic cloth....
I liked the simple design of the blade and felt then as I do now that it would be a great knife to have handy in a real survival situation.)

But do you have any points about the sole-authorship things I have writen here you disagree with?
If you dont,then whats the big deal?
 
I think all points have been expressed here, about sole authorship. Its a huge dead horse. Stop beating it!
Anyone who possesses any credibility here, has made their thoughts known; along with those who are still searching for a position.

I enjoy posting and receiving feedback on this forum. But I have one rule that guides me: Do not post if you are not standing on firm ground, relative to the subject that is being discussed. If you do, it will come back to haunt you.
In other words, do not get in over your head, you will drown.
Fred
 
Allan Molstad said:
But do you have any points about the sole-authorship things I have writen here you disagree with?
If you dont,then whats the big deal?
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So, you mean to tell me that you believe that, even after others have managed to call you out on numerous inferences clearly showing your fraudulence and underhandedness, that somehow you can now just point into the distance and yell :"What in the world can THAT be?" and expect us to all to turn and look?

Just so I know you read this next part, I'll put it in big print... then I'm walking away and leaving you here to keep thrashing that poor dead equine:

YOU'VE BEEN BUSTED AS A FRAUD. NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. THEY ARE CONVINCED THAT YOUR ONLY GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE DISSENSION AND MAYHEM, AND WILL ATTEMPT TO SPIN ANY DIRECT ISSUE. THAT IS THE BIG DEAL.
 
Allan, You have discredited yourself in the other areas mentioned to such a degree that your views on sole authorship are moot.

Allan Molstad said:
...But do you have any points about the sole-authorship things I have writen here you disagree with?QUOTE]

What several of us are attempting to communicate to you is that you have discredited yourself in the other areas mentioned to such a degree that your views on sole authorship are moot. You know, of little or no practical value or meaning.
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YOU'VE BEEN BUSTED AS A FRAUD. NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. THEY ARE CONVINCED THAT YOUR ONLY GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE DISSENSION AND MAYHEM, AND WILL ATTEMPT TO SPIN ANY DIRECT ISSUE. THAT IS THE BIG DEAL

He knows this but it doesn't seem to matter, its a game to him and you all keep playing. Of the last 20 posts he's posted 9 of them, he's having fun. He cares not what anyone says, he just wants attention. 2 words come to mind.

IGNORE HIM, he will go away.
 
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