Someone hacked my profile

[Mossyhorn]

I had someone attempt to hack into my PayPal account after I posted my PayPal address in a sales thread. They alerted me, so I changed my security questions and my password. Thankfully PayPal has safeguards to prevent hacking. I was only going to keep it posted until payment had been made. I forgot about it and the address it was up for a few hours.
That was all it took and a hacker on this forum, who obviously watches the for sale forums to attempt to login into my PayPal account. I strongly advise anyone not to post their address on the forum. There are scumbags lurking here.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

Sorry this happened to you dude. I can't believe that they actually posted a knife for sale (with pics even) and were able to snag someone that quickly.

Whoever did this knew what they were doing, and it makes me sick to think that there's a good chance that it was someone who is active here.

A definite lesson for everyone in OPSEC with your online presence. Use good, strong passwords, different e-mail addresses, and don't use the same password anywhere.

 

[Andy the Aussie]

The website seems to have more than it's fair share of hacking going on. If can't trust even veteran members, I can't do any business here. There is a guy on YouTube and numerous articles around about it. I'm done.

..............it's not actually this website that is the issue it would seem.

 

[unwisefool]

Sorry this happened to you dude. I can't believe that they actually posted a knife for sale (with pics even) and were able to snag someone that quickly.

Whoever did this knew what they were doing, and it makes me sick to think that there's a good chance that it was someone who is active here.

A definite lesson for everyone in OPSEC with your online presence. Use good, strong passwords, different e-mail addresses, and don't use the same password anywhere.

Yeah I logged in with the temp ID within half an hour of getting the notification and they had already had up a sale thread. So it was definitely someone who has used the system before

 

[SpyderPhreak]

Yeah I logged in with the temp ID within half an hour of getting the notification and they had already had up a sale thread. So it was definitely someone who has used the system before

Did Spark or anyone else do an IP/e-mail address check on the scoundrel? Gotta be sure they don't have another account here (though it's easy enough to mask your real IP with a VPN).

 

[Andy the Aussie]

I think earlier it was posted that it was Romanian.

 

[DaKCbeast]

That's not PayPal being silly - you used the service inappropriately, then furthered the lie in an attempt to recoup your funds. They're not obligated to issue refunds for f&f payments.
It sucks that you might lose the money; but it isn't as if you didn't know better.

*Edited - you've now posted the outcome, claiming you got f'd. It's an unfortunate situation; but one that didn't have to happen. Hopefully others will learn to just close the ad, or end negotiation, as soon as f&f appears.

Silly as in, not nice. Not silly as in you, being silly to come talk trash to a battered man. I trusted this forum and a member with 100% positive feedback. A member with inadequate passwords and a forum with inadequate password requirements. You should be ashamed to come here only to further berate me. Dadpool you're right there with him by liking his comment. Some are posting that it's someone that knows This system.. is it one of you? Why else would you side with those on the the thieving side??? Aren't we all here together as one? I lied because I trusted this forums member that has been a member for years? Cannot I not expect to treat him like a friend?Yet you side with PayPal and the thief. I have to wonder why.. You have no defense for what you said, nor a defense for even your presence in this thread.

 

[DaKCbeast]

Side with thieves, become one.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

I think earlier it was posted that it was Romanian.

It was, but I wonder if that was cross-checked for other accounts here?

Silly as in, not nice. Not silly as in you, being silly to come talk trash to a battered man. I trusted this forum and a member with 100% positive feedback. A member with inadequate passwords and a forum with inadequate passwords requirements. You should be ashamed to come here only to further berate me. Dadpool you're right there with him by liking his comment. Some are posting that it's someone that knows This system.. is it one of you? Why else would you side with those on the the thieving side??? Aren't we all here together as one? Yet you side with PayPal. I wonder why..

I almost feel sorry for you, but using F&F payments for goods is defrauding PayPal and giving up any protection you might have had. That's 100% on you, nobody made you do it.

We're not siding with the fraudster, but it's kind of hard to feel too sorry for you when you paid him via F&F. Why do you think he asked for payment that way? Because he knew you'd have basically zero recourse. That is why you're not supposed to pay that way... Go look through the countless other threads in this sub-forum about paying via F&F, that's why it's sketchy when people ask for it, and as a buyer you should never do it.

 

[DaKCbeast]

It was, but I wonder if that was cross-checked for other accounts here?


I almost feel sorry for you, but using F&F payments for goods is defrauding PayPal and giving up any protection you might have had. That's 100% on you, nobody made you do it.

We're not siding with the fraudster, but it's kind of hard to feel too sorry for you when you paid him via F&F. Why do you think he asked for payment that way? Because he knew you'd have basically zero recourse. That is why you're not supposed to pay that way... Go look through the countless other threads in this sub-forum about paying via F&F, that's why it's sketchy when people ask for it, and as a buyer you should never do it.

Why shouldn't I pay a trusted member F&F? The problem lies within the various systems, not my payment preference. Defrauding PayPal? You don't know the particulars concerning my transaction with PayPal and how they handle these things. They will usually investigate for fraudulent activity and not honor the funds availability within 7 business days. I was given a message after I sent the funds stating that I had until the 10th to cancel the transaction. They didn't honor that nor did they investigate. They simply opened a case and closed it.

 

[Sharp & Fiery]

Why shouldn't I pay a trusted member F&F? The problem lies within the various systems, not my payment preference. Defrauding PayPal? You don't know the particulars concerning my transaction with PayPal and how they handle these things. They will usually investigate for fraudulent activity and not honor the funds availability within 7 business days. I was given a message after I sent the funds stating that I had until the 10th to cancel the transaction. They didn't honor that nor did they investigate. They simply opened a case and closed it.

I gotta side with others here. F&F is a no-no when paying for a service or product. It’s not BF’s problem if you can’t get a refund.

I feel for ya, and it sucks. But crap happens.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

Why shouldn't I pay a trusted member F&F? The problem lies within the various systems, not my payment preference. Defrauding PayPal? You don't know the particulars concerning my transaction with PayPal and how they handle these things. They will usually investigate for fraudulent activity and not honor the funds availability within 7 business days. I was given a message after I sent the funds stating that I had until the 10th to cancel the transaction. They didn't honor that nor did they investigate. They simply opened a case and closed it.

Because, per the user agreement TOS you signed with PP, you are not supposed to bypass PP getting their payment for using their services by using F&F for a G&S payment. So, by doing so, you ARE defrauding them.

I don't need to know the particulars of your transaction, other than if the fraudster isn't a friend of yours (I think we can all safely assume that they aren't...), you violated the PP TOS you agreed to when you signed up for PP. I can almost certainly guarantee if PP knew what actually happened here, they would probably tell you to go pound sand, if they haven't already.

 

[DaKCbeast]

Because, per the user agreement TOS you signed with PP, you are not supposed to bypass PP getting their payment for using their services by using F&F for a G&S payment. So, by doing so, you ARE defrauding them.

I don't need to know the particulars of your transaction, other than if the fraudster isn't a friend of yours (I think we can all safely assume that they aren't...), you violated the PP TOS you agreed to when you signed up for PP. I can almost certainly guarantee if PP knew what actually happened here, they would probably tell you to go pound sand, if they haven't already.

You're missing the point. You don't understand how things work with PayPal. You can cancel ANY transaction as long as the payee hasn't received the payment. PayPal sent me a message after sending payment stating exactly this. I'm not expecting g&s protection by using f&f. I'm expecting the other measures that they have in place to take care of things like this to be adhered to. His account is new and he doesn't have full access yet and or it was created with a false name/email that didn't jive with PayPal. They hold funds from people like to prevent trouble like this. They didn't do what they say. This forum and Unwisefool are the reason that this even being typed right now. Hopefully the standards concerning passwords are raised. Beat me if ye will!!! There will always be the critical ones without love in their hearts to just comfort those that have been injured. Those that don't know how to sympathize with others. Those persons today are a few of you. I acted in good faith in this community and I will be okay because I have a plan. My bank may get come through for me.

 

[unwisefool]

You're missing the point. You don't understand how things work with PayPal. You can cancel ANY transaction as long as the payee hasn't received the payment. PayPal sent me a message after sending payment stating exactly this. I'm not expecting g&s protection by using f&f. I'm expecting the other measures that they have in place to take care of things like this to be adhered to. His account is new and he doesn't have full access yet and or it was created with a false name/email that didn't jive with PayPal. They hold funds from people like to prevent trouble like this. They didn't do what they say. This forum and Unwisefool are the reason that this even being typed right now. Hopefully the standards concerning passwords are raised. Beat me if ye will!!! There will always be the critical ones without love in their hearts to just comfort those that have been injured. Those that don't know how to sympathize with others. Those persons today are a few of you. I acted in good faith in this community and I will be okay because I have a plan. My bank may get come through for me.

Did you fund it with a credit or debit card? You might be able to file a claim.

 

[DaKCbeast]

Did you fund it with a credit or debit card? You might be able to file a claim.

I funded with debit. I'll reply if they take care of me. They put in that I didn't receive the item. We will see.

 

[Andy the Aussie]

This forum and Unwisefool are the reason that this even being typed right now.

..... rubbish..... the SCAMMER is the reason this is happening now. It is UNFORTUNATE that you are the victim of it, no question but like you Unwisefool was also a victim. There are a million threads and events here that show making a commercial transaction and using F&F (against the financial provider's terms) is a bad idea, should people pile on you for this, probably not, but it needs pointing out if only to discourage some other poor soul using the same poor judgement. An upfront and honest seller will not ask you for F&F in the first instance. This is a HIGHLY unusual event, one of the few times "my account was hijacked" is actually the case (this is often screamed after someone has violated the rule about "don't post when you are toast" and is trying to walk back the previous night's drunk tirade or nude selfies). There are 1000s of transactions taking place via this forum and the vast VAST majority go off without a hitch.

 

[DaKCbeast]

Mee

..... rubbish..... the SCAMMER is the reason this is happening now. It is UNFORTUNATE that you are the victim of it, no question but like you Unwisefool was also a victim. There are a million threads and events here that show making a commercial transaction and using F&F (against the financial provider's terms) is a bad idea, should people pile on you for this, probably not, but it needs pointing out if only to discourage some other poor soul using the same poor judgement. An upfront and honest seller will not ask you for F&F in the first instance. This is a HIGHLY unusual event, one of the few times "my account was hijacked" is actually the case (this is often screamed after someone has violated the rule about "don't post when you are toast" and is trying to walk back the previous night's drunk tirade or nude selfies). There are 1000s of transactions taking place via this forum and the vast VAST majority go off without a hitch.

Merry Christmas.

 

[Sharp & Fiery]

Mee

Merry Christmas.

unwisefool is not to blame here. This is classic “pass the buck.”
It’s like when someone gets broken into and someone says, “well did you lock the door?” It’s my house…no one has the right to come in even if the door is wide open.

The blame here belongs on the scammer.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

You're missing the point. You don't understand how things work with PayPal. You can cancel ANY transaction as long as the payee hasn't received the payment. PayPal sent me a message after sending payment stating exactly this. I'm not expecting g&s protection by using f&f. I'm expecting the other measures that they have in place to take care of things like this to be adhered to. His account is new and he doesn't have full access yet and or it was created with a false name/email that didn't jive with PayPal. They hold funds from people like to prevent trouble like this. They didn't do what they say. This forum and Unwisefool are the reason that this even being typed right now. Hopefully the standards concerning passwords are raised. Beat me if ye will!!! There will always be the critical ones without love in their hearts to just comfort those that have been injured. Those that don't know how to sympathize with others. Those persons today are a few of you. I acted in good faith in this community and I will be okay because I have a plan. My bank may get come through for me.

You're missing my point (or more likely, side-stepping the issue I'm pointing out). I DO fully understand how PP works, I use it too.

This issue was not the fault of BF, and not necessarily UWF's either. Saying that it's either of their faults when a criminal act was committed is placing blame in the wrong place. The blame lies squarely on the criminal hacker. You could have the strongest password possible, and it could still be hacked....

You seem to want our sympathy here, but we've seen this BS with people stupidly paying for goods using F&F over and over and over again. It's against the rules you agreed to when you set up your PayPal account, it's as simple as that. So pardon us if we're not overly sympathetic to your plight. Had you paid via G&S this conversation would be going totally differently. The only reason you're getting much any sympathy at all is due to the fact that you were scammed.

PS - I know I'm not the only one who's also noticed that it seems you're only here on BF to buy and sell. That's not helping your case...

 

[DaKCbeast]

Happy New Year.