Someone talk me into or out of buying a Strider SNG..

[JAF1973]

You are likely wasting your time. As I have already stated, they are poor on communication, but even if they they were not, it is doubtful they would reprofile it for you. Your best bet is to go to a professional who does that sort of work. Some like the fixed blades, but they are not what I need or want.

You are absolutely correct. And hopefully I will find someone one day who will reprofile the knife. So far no one will touch it.
The main reason I brought this up was to let the OP know that their customer service. Shall he ever need it. Will more than likely be ignored. And I know his folders command $500 to $1000.
Btw. I like folders and fixed blades both. I have no preference to either.
So I hope the OP considers what I mentioned. I left the typical M.Strider prison stint and military stuff I know of out of this. That has been beat to death.
I wanted to state Striders lack of customer sertvice before the OP makes a choice.

EDIT: I feel that as a business you have a duty to customer service duties within reason. Or at least reply to a person with a yes or no answer. Especially when you charge prices of $300 on up into a few thousand $$$. The bad customer service and yet living high off of a hog off those who purchase your products is not cool in my book.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

You are absolutely correct. And hopefully I will find someone one day who will reprofile the knife. So far no one will touch it.
The main reason I brought this up was to let the OP know that their customer service. Shall he ever need it. Will more than likely be ignored. And I know his folders command $500 to $1000.
Btw. I like folders and fixed blades both. I have no preference to either.
So I hope the OP considers what I mentioned. I left the typical M.Strider prison stint and military stuff I know of out of this. That has been beat to death.
I wanted to state Striders lack of customer sertvice before the OP makes a choice.

EDIT: I feel that as a business you have a duty to customer service duties within reason. Or at least reply to a person with a yes or no answer. Especially when you charge prices of $300 on up into a few thousand $$$. The bad customer service and yet living high off of a hog off those who purchase your products is not cool in my book.

Josh is the best person to try to contact-no guarantee, but it falls on him.
Josh@striderknives.com

 

[JAF1973]

Their warranty is very good, but if you consider communication a big part of customer service, they are a bit lacking. Once you realize this, things go smoother, and you don't waste your time trying to get a response-just let them do the work and get it back. They have always been a small and slightly understaffed company.

I also have issue with just randomly mailing my knife off to a company that I cannot speak to or don't bother to email a reply. Especially since for all I know their website may have a new address they did not bother to update. Plenty of small companies will make an effort to email or accept a call. Look at White River Knives. Way smaller than Strider. But they still respond to customers in some fashion.
If M.Strider can charge $300 to $1000 for a knife. He can sure well have his wife or a helper answer some Emails/calls. No pity from me considering he is far from poor and has no excuse to have zero communication. I sold stuff on Ebay. And I always found the time to address a few customers questions and concerns. Even when I was working 50 hours a week on construction sites.
A bit lacking is acceptable. Non existant. Especiallly for a business is a more proper term in this case.

For the record. I like Strider designs very well.

 

[JAF1973]

Josh is the best person to try to contact-no guarantee, but it falls on him.
Josh@striderknives.com

Thank you very much for sharing this. I really do appreciate you.

 

[JAF1973]

I believe Strider has a cult-like following, and it drives a lot of the sensationalism and exaggeration on the quality of the product and customer service. Now I have never owned a Strider and never will, but I can only surmise by the amount of them I see for sale that people buy them and they end up not meeting expectations. Some people may say “I don’t care what Mickley Hamburglar has done, I like the knives”… but you are enabling him to continue to profit from lies and deceit. If you buy the knife, you support the company.

The reason I bought the Strider fixed blade is because I like some of his styles. No cult following on my end. I look at it like this. If you want to stand on truly moral ground. Make your own knives or buy a Spyderco. Lynn Thompson, CRKT, Bark River, Ontario, Almost every company and owner have some sort of dirt. If I were to judge my purchases based on the morals of the owner or company views. I would save a lot of money and own almost nothing in my life.
I understand why many will not own a Strider, Hoback, Etc. But their choices do not influence me. I influence me.

 

[King of the Cheese]

The reason I bought the Strider fixed blade is because I like some of his styles. No cult following on my end. I look at it like this. If you want to stand on truly moral ground. Make your own knives or buy a Spyderco. Lynn Thompson, CRKT, Bark River, Ontario, Almost every company and owner have some sort of dirt. If I were to judge my purchases based on the morals of the owner or company views. I would save a lot of money and own almost nothing in my life.
I understand why many will not own a Strider, Hoback, Etc. But their choices do not influence me. I influence me.

Well you’ve admitted that you don’t base purchases on moral principles, but solely on your need for the product. I’m not here to judge, but this is a knife forum and many people here do care about who makes the knives, why they make them, where they make them, and the marketing tactics involved. The man sells a story of being an elite military tactician, one of America’s finest.. and has embellished his record, despite being a washout screw-up E-1 that just BARELY qualified for the title “Ranger” technically, and many would argue he doesn’t. I have a friend that spent a decade in the 75th with so many deployments you’d need fingers and toes to count them that will spend the rest of his life drinking his food through a straw as the result of a combat incident, and it strikes a nerve that people like Mick paint pictures of bullsh*t to pad their own pockets with cash.

He is garbage and I wouldn’t touch his knives if someone gave them to me.

 

[Murdamook]

To be "more accurate" let's drop the link for people to go through:

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/mick-strider-has-some-explaining-to

Mickey ray burger NEVER served as a Ranger. Supposedly () he attended RIP. Going through rip (allegedly) and then being kicked out of the military with a dishonorable discharge doesn't "make him a ranger". Dude has a Ranger tattoo on his forearm and made up stories of him as an operator in Somalia while he only actually did a grand total of 11 months in the army and was booted out dishonorablely as an E1, the lowest rank possible.
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He (mickey ray burger) altered his dd214 but thankfully Kevin (spark) pulled the actual dd214.

There are 2 types of Ranger identifiers, scroll and tab. Attending Ranger school, gets you a Ranger tab. Completing rip gets you a scroll. This loser getting a Ranger tattoo for completing rip and almost immediately going awol is about as legit as qtrmstr's headquarters and museum in Texas.

He never earned the title Ranger. The guys who are scrolled take pride in the grunt work they do, a washout who couldn't hack it, and immediately goes AWOL hasn't had any significant training, has never deployed anywhere and hasn't earned the scroll. That's the equivalent of a guy making it through basic training and immediately going awol and getting chaptered out with a dishonorable discharge calling themselves a "soldier". Right. Doesn't work like that.

I was active duty army from 08 to 12. Have a book of shit including a dd214 that I can bring next time I go hang out with Kevin and boru13 at one stop Knife shop and let Kevin (who is also a veteran) go over my shit. Actually last time I was there we chatted about our time in the army for a few hours.

Mickey ray burger isn't a Ranger. He's a liar and a fraud. He never served as a Ranger. Hope that is "accurate" enough.

So, at the beginning of that long thread, Spark states “I am of the opinion that…”. Hence, my usage of “opinion”. Next, the dude was assigned to Ranger Batt., was he not? I don’t care if he ran an op. or field exercise, nor am I defending anything. I’m stating a fact as laid out in Spark’s own thread and sourced from the FOIA request. You can debate his “right” to term himself a Ranger all you want, and his right to be scrolled. But you can’t deny that he was in 2/75 Ranger Bn., regardless of how short his stint was, and that’s my point.

 

[Murdamook]

Believe it or not. I can't even give it away. when someone tries to cut with it. They just say no thanks man. Even the pawn shop refused it saying no one would buy it due to the blade issues.
The point of my post I should have clarified better on is that Mr Strider. At least for me has been impossible to get a hold of concerning customer service. I have politely sent him 3 Emails in a month's time roughly every 10 days. Asking if he would re sharpen and redo the angle of my knife. I even offered to pay shipping and his time for doing the service.
I like the knife very well in terms of looks and handle design. I am just a bit turned off that I cannot reach out to the man considering this thing ran me $300 to request some help and basic customer service.
If I had the know how I would do it myself. But the work it needs this requires someone with more skill/tools than myself.
The lack of customer service on a $300 purchase is what bugs me.

I’ve actually gotten ahold of Josh multiple times on both social media and by email. Never had problems contacting them.

 

[King of the Cheese]

So, at the beginning of that long thread, Spark states “I am of the opinion that…”. Hence, my usage of “opinion”. Next, the dude was assigned to Ranger Batt., was he not? I don’t care if he ran an op. or field exercise, nor am I defending anything. I’m stating a fact as laid out in Spark’s own thread and sourced from the FOIA request. You can debate his “right” to term himself a Ranger all you want, and his right to be scrolled. But you can’t deny that he was in 2/75 Ranger Bn., regardless of how short his stint was, and that’s my point.

You really going to argue the semantics of this idiot washing out after 2 months? What he did is akin to someone completing special forces selection and then flipping everyone off saying “ha ha screw you all I’m off to make knives and tell everyone I’m a badass!”

Mick was a tourist… a passerby. You want to argue he was a “Ranger” on a RIP graduation technicality? Go for it. Just don’t expect the rest of us to give him any respect for it.

 

[Murdamook]

You really going to argue the semantics of this idiot washing out after 2 months? What he did is akin to someone completing special forces selection and then flipping everyone off saying “ha ha screw you all I’m off to make knives and tell everyone I’m a badass!”

Mick was a tourist… a passerby. You want to argue he was a “Ranger” on a RIP graduation technicality? Go for it. Just don’t expect the rest of us to give him any respect for it.

I’m not petitioning you for respect on behalf of someone who really doesn’t care. I’m interpreting what was put in Spark’s thread. If you want to argue that he was a tourist, cool. I don’t deny his tenure was incredibly short. He was assigned to batt. I have several friends who are/were Rangers, some active duty still, who claim what makes a Ranger is assignment to Bn.

 

[Hyesouljah]

Corton93 OP, there’s going to be an SnG drop today. Follow them on Instagram and turn on post and story notifications to know when the drop is live

 

[King of the Cheese]

I’m not petitioning you for respect on behalf of someone who really doesn’t care. I’m interpreting what was put in Spark’s thread. If you want to argue that he was a tourist, cool. I don’t deny his tenure was incredibly short. He was assigned to batt. I have several friends who are/were Rangers, some active duty still, who claim what makes a Ranger is assignment to Bn.

I don’t care. My issue is with the lying and embellishments. Would you argue that a true “Ranger” lives by the Ranger Creed? It is very important to the Rangers. See if you can spot any failures in bold:

Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of my Ranger Regiment.

Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier, who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger, my country expects me to move further, faster, and fight harder than any other soldier.

Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong, and morally straight, and I will shoulder more than my share of the task, whatever it may be, one hundred percent and then some.

Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress, and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.

Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.

Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission, though I be the lone survivor.

RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!​

Does someone that tells lies about their service and experience sound like someone that lives by the Ranger Creed? Soldiers that live by the creed.. THAT is a true “Ranger”.

 

[Murdamook]

I don’t care. My issue is with the lying and embellishments. Would you argue that a true “Ranger” lives by the Ranger Creed? It is very important to the Rangers. See if you can spot any failures in bold:


Does someone that tells lies about their service and experience sound like someone that lives by the Ranger Creed? Soldiers that live by the creed.. THAT is a true “Ranger”.

You’re barking up the wrong tree. You think I’m celebrating the guy as a moral paragon and war hero. I replied because I felt there was some confusion when it came to interpreting Spark’s thread. I don’t actually care if he embodies the spirit of a Ranger. That’s not my point. My point is words and language matter, and the guy was assigned to Bn., not just Ranger qualified. You can argue that makes him worse, honestly. He was assigned to Bn. and washed out because he did some hinky stuff. It’s not like he was Ranger qualified and did some less than savory shit.

 

[not2sharp]

....A bit lacking is acceptable. Non existant. Especiallly for a business is a more proper term in this case.

For the record. I like Strider designs very well.

There is no need to deal with a maker with a permanent customer service impairment, while there are thousands of other makers who are happy to reach out and share with their customers. Talking and sharing with makers is a big and fun part of this hobby.

n2s

 

[JAF1973]

Well you’ve admitted that you don’t base purchases on moral principles, but solely on your need for the product. I’m not here to judge, but this is a knife forum and many people here do care about who makes the knives, why they make them, where they make them, and the marketing tactics involved. The man sells a story of being an elite military tactician, one of America’s finest.. and has embellished his record, despite being a washout screw-up E-1 that just BARELY qualified for the title “Ranger” technically, and many would argue he doesn’t. I have a friend that spent a decade in the 75th with so many deployments you’d need fingers and toes to count them that will spend the rest of his life drinking his food through a straw as the result of a combat incident, and it strikes a nerve that people like Mick paint pictures of bullsh*t to pad their own pockets with cash.

He is garbage and I wouldn’t touch his knives if someone gave them to me.

I absolutely understand your reasoning. And yes, I don't base my purchases on everyone's morals. If I did. I would hardly own anything and be walking around in a fig leaf dress from Adam and Eve times living in a tree hut or cave.

I served myself. Just a plain ole DC control man. Nothing glorious. And my father served in Vietnam and died from Agent Orange Cancer in 2008. I am not gonna praise Mick for his past. Believe me when I say this. I am no worshipper or fanatic of Mick, spyderco, KA-BAR, or any knife company/custom maker.

There are plenty of other things I could throw up. Let's see, Here's a few. Shiva Kai threatening to kill forum members? Robbie Dalton who made automatic knives with racist imagery from the 1990's into 2010. Jay Fisher and his pack of lies and disrespect of blacksmiths and the entire custom knife maker community.

If you really think that everything you own in your life is 100% from good people and ethical sources. All I can say is I hope you are right.

Should I throw away my levis because they are now made in Mexico or my 5.11 boots/Nikes because they use chinese child labor to produce them? Despite the fact those are only products that properly fit my body type?

I buy what I want. Because life is short. And I support freedom of choice to my death.
Not because someone else thinks they have the right to tell me what to buy. Some jerk's past, Or because some free loading knife reviewer on YouTube thinks I should buy what he likes.

I never said I liked Mick or tried to cover up his shadiness. But I sure do like some of his designs and tried one out. My problem with Mick lies in his lack of customer service. Much like present cold Steel. And as a result of his non existant customer service. I will never buy or recommend another Strider.

I don't want you or anyone to approve of my choices or what I buy. I am an old Punker that appreciates diversity, freedom of choice, and those who buy what they want for their own reasons. Instead of being a follower.

I respect your stance on Strider and I will never try to discredit that. At least you are your own man and follow what you believe to be right. I even gave your reply a like. Because you have the balls to disagree and state your opinion like a man. Instead of leaving a laughing emote with no reply.
Much respected by myself.

Point is. Most manufacturers have some sort of dirt or shady past. Albeit some worse than others.
However, I can no longer worry about the knife drama or what others think of me as a person over what I like in a product.

 

[JAF1973]

There is no need to deal with a maker with a permanent customer service impairment, while there are thousands of other makers who are happy to reach out and share with their customers. Talking and sharing with makers is a big and fun part of this hobby.

n2s

Well put. I 100% agree.

 

[shinyedges]

So, at the beginning of that long thread, Spark states “I am of the opinion that…”. Hence, my usage of “opinion”. Next, the dude was assigned to Ranger Batt., was he not? I don’t care if he ran an op. or field exercise, nor am I defending anything. I’m stating a fact as laid out in Spark’s own thread and sourced from the FOIA request. You can debate his “right” to term himself a Ranger all you want, and his right to be scrolled. But you can’t deny that he was in 2/75 Ranger Bn., regardless of how short his stint was, and that’s my point.

The information from the foia isn't an opinion. Plenty of MOS's assigned to Ranger bats that aren't rangers. Not sure you know how being assigned to a unit works.

Argue all you want, I'd wager most soldiers will tell you a shitbag who washes out weeks after being assigned somewhere and that never actually did the job, doesn't qualify to claim they were that job.

 

[Murdamook]

The information from the foia isn't an opinion. Plenty of MOS's assigned to Ranger bats that aren't rangers. Not sure you know how being assigned to a unit works.

Argue all you want, I'd wager most soldiers will tell you a shitbag who washes out weeks after being assigned somewhere and that never actually did the job, doesn't qualify to claim they were that job.

Again, not claiming he’s a paragon of virtue. Are you actually contending that he wasn’t a Ranger based on MOS? Did he not complete RASP/RIP then get assigned to the battalion? I’m with you for most of what you’re saying, but that part of your argument isn’t needed. You know he wasn’t assigned to Ranger batt. as a paper pusher.

 

[unwisefool]

I carry it around, use it lightly, and take pictures. I can carry it around take pictures of it and never use it in my life as well. Is that a problem? lol

Was just curious, you said it was meant for super tough tasks and you do not use it for that. You also carry two slipjoints which handle light duty, so thought you might just have it as pocket jewelry or something. Which is fine, just asking what you were doing with it.

 

[unwisefool]

The information from the foia isn't an opinion. Plenty of MOS's assigned to Ranger bats that aren't rangers. Not sure you know how being assigned to a unit works.

Haha that reminds me of this paper pusher at the FBI who kept alluding to people that he was an agent. Had a picture of himself with the hat and coat on Facebook and everything. One call and that stopped real quick.