something spooky

[Fonly]

Sounds like a sleep paralysis. It happens to me.

wow, I just spent the last 30 minutes ready up on that, I think I need to go to the doctor.....

 

[trentski]

you might enjoy reading this

http://sa.mrbill.net/humpermonkey.html

I was a little scared LOL

 

[tholiver]

Down here we call sleep paralysis the "old hag".
There is some folklore about it floating around on the internet if you are interested.

 

[Haze]

It's funny to hear stories from Taiwan. I am from Scotland and have lived there for my whole life untill I moved to Taiwan.
Scotland is some what well known for it's ghosties and I have had one or two WTF moments when out in the woods, hills and moors.
I am a totally rational person and don't believe in things like ghosts and have always just put things down to my imagination playing tricks on me or what ever.

While I have seen and heard things back home that were odd I have never had things happen to me like I have had happen here in Taiwan.
There is one particular occasion that sticks in my mind and I still wonder what that was to this day.

I often trek up rivers here as the jungle is just way too thick to reasonably travel through in most places. I quite often do this with just my self and my dog as he is way more capable than all my human friends.
We were in the mountains in north of Taiwan and started early in the morning and was expecting to spend most of the day on the hike (that was not to be the case). We were only about 1.5 miles up a river having treked for a couple of hours right up in the mountains with nothing around for a long way in every direction. I stopped to get some water out my bag and thought I saw someone in the corner of my eye as i looked down into my bag. I looked up and saw no one so I just grabbed my water and as I put my head back to take a drink I saw it again. I also noticed that my dog was seeing something too as he was looking over in the same place with that sort of WTF look that dogs do. That was odd and gave me a bit of a chill but i figured it was just nothing and kept on up the river. Then I started to really feel that there was someone right behind me almost looking over me causing me to spin round and have a look. This was really starting to freak me out and my dog was getting a bit upety as well. I was all goose bumps and was feeling rather alone when I saw a big shadow flash past me on my right hand side between me and the jungle line (my dog seemed to see it too). There was no birds at all and the tree canopy blocked out all direct sun light at that part so it wasn't imediately expalinable by animals or braches swaying in the wind or what ever. At any rate that was enough for me and I pretty much just ran (scrambled) the whole way back as fast as I could with the full on adrenaline dump feeling with the shakes and everything.

I still don't know if that was all the head or there is more too it but I just can't think of a good explanation for it.
All my Taiwanese friends just about died on the spot when i told them and said to never ever go back there......umm, no $h!t Sherlock

 

[VANCE]

Thats some spooky stuff Kalama, now i dont go around carrying a gun so if that happened to me i would have high-kneed it out of there ASAP!

Vance, thats some pretty creepy stuff and the worse part is that its right in the middle of a backyard!!!!

Ive never had anything like that happen to me, sure ive heard noises and seen shadows move around my camp, but being in the wilderness it has always been hungry mice, curious foxes and so forth. Or thats what ive been telling myself all this time...

SUGAR HILL

***beware of ghosts***

 

[Jason B.]

I'm not saying I'm a non-believer but the human mind is very powerful, you ever have a dream of falling off a building?

I can't say I've never got the feeling of something around me as their has been times that I have been alone but did not feel that way. I still feel that its my own mind playing tricks on me though, or so I like to believe.

 

[WILLIAM.M]

I'm not saying I'm a non-believer but the human mind is very powerful, you ever have a dream of falling off a building?

I can't say I've never got the feeling of something around me as their has been times that I have been alone but did not feel that way. I still feel that its my own mind playing tricks on me though, or so I like to believe.

That's EXACTLY what it was...

and to believe Ghosts are real and can been seen and/or photographed-runs in the face of logic.

Does anyone believe Kalama's traps were set off by a Ghost??(that left no tracks---but somehow magically set off his trap>>??)

If so---I have a spaceship I'll sell you rides on.(it's invisable too)

 

[wintermute]

Nowhere near as metaphysical as anyone else's, but in high school some friends and I were walking down a dirt fire road in some scrubland at night. Maybe two miles from civilization there's a police car idling, all lights off, on the edge of the road. As we walk past it we notice there's no one in the car. What the heck would the officer be doing out here and not inside his car? definitely a long way to go for a call of nature, especially since we're in the middle of suburbia. Whatever was going on, we figured it was bad mojo of a very real sort and beat feet, in very leisurely looking way, out of there.

 

[Jason B.]

Nowhere near as metaphysical as anyone else's, but in high school some friends and I were walking down a dirt fire road in some scrubland at night. Maybe two miles from civilization there's a police car idling, all lights off, on the edge of the road. As we walk past it we notice there's no one in the car. What the heck would the officer be doing out here and not inside his car? definitely a long way to go for a call of nature, especially since we're in the middle of suburbia. Whatever was going on, we figured it was bad mojo of a very real sort and beat feet, in very leisurely looking way, out of there.

I would have tried looking for the officer, he could have been in trouble and in need of help.

 

[James Y]

I have a few questions for you.

Did it almost have an electrical feel to it?
And were you totally paralized, and had the feeling that someone was doing it to you?
like being held agains't your will?
And when the sounds stopped, did it almost feel like something snaped in you?

Also, im not trying to be weird or anything, but have you ever had the feeling that there was am elastic band from your feet to the bottom of your neck, and it was being picked in the middle?

I've had very vivid sensations like the ones you explained when things have happend in my life, and to be honest, they were terrifying.

I remember one time, I was laying down beside my girlfriend, and I think I must have just dosed off. I remember waking up, everything on my body being paralized. My Jaw was locked shut, and was tighting more and more. Then, I felt something forcing my jaw open, and I had the odd sensation that something was controlling my movments, then my head was forced to the left, towards my girl friend. I tried yelling to her, but all I could do was whisper very silently. I was try as hard as I could so scream to her, then in seconds, I heard that loud noise, I didnt associate it with screaming, but it could have been. Then, just a crack, and I was awake, but when I woke up, I would up yelling her name. It was odd, because as far as Im conserned, I was awake when it all happend, I just woke up and was still in the same position but then her name just blurted out of me.

The whole time, I felt allmost like I had an electrical charge or something, its was the worst thing that has ever happend, very dishearting.

Fonly:
Yes, it definitely felt like I was being held/forced down, like a heavy, non-existent weight was pressing me. I can't really recall if there was an electrical feeling to it; but I have had that happen as well.

Those electrical feelings occurred a few times when I was going into or coming out of what I now know is OBE (out-of-body experiences). In those cases, the electrical sensations felt like a band or a "ring" moving up and down my body from my toes to my head and back down. Sometimes it's also accompanied by a buzzing sound. But though it's an odd feeling, I never felt spooked during these times. I am fully awake when it happens, too.

But the incident in the lodge was distinctly different. I came awake immediately and knew something was wrong. It was not OBE and it was not sleep paralysis. There was a presence there. Otherwise how could my GF, whose back was to me, have responded and relayed to me exactly the same things at the same time, before I told her? I don't look for every single thing to have a paranormal explanation, but when you experience something like this, you know in your rational mind and in your gut. We also both heard the voice, and though it sounded human-like (from low male to high-pitched female wail), it wasn't normal, and went on too long without pause.

I did feel like when I was able to break out of it and move, as if something "snapped". I literally had to fight. I also don't remember trying to make any sound, due to the inward struggle.

I did have another incident in Taiwan, and not in bed, but on a normal city street while talking to a friend at around 8:00 at night. Paul, a friend from England, and I were on a sidewalk outside a restaurant, he sitting on his parked motorcycle and I was standing. Somehow, the subject turned to ghosts, I don't know why. Almost immediately, I felt a heavy "fog" envelop me. I began having trouble getting words out. Also, I felt an intense chill. This was during the hot, humid season. Suddenly Paul wrapped his arms around himself, shuddered and said, "Did ya feel that, man?" Paul's a big guy, and he began looking all around, with a worried look. Finally I could speak again, though my ears felt like cotton was in them. I croaked out, "I...think we better not talk about that s**t." He nodded and said, "Yeah." The next day, Paul told me he felt something had followed him back to his apartment the night before.

I strongly believe in that case, the mere act of talking out "ghosts" somehow attracted something to us.
Jim

 

[James Y]

It's funny to hear stories from Taiwan. I am from Scotland and have lived there for my whole life untill I moved to Taiwan.
Scotland is some what well known for it's ghosties and I have had one or two WTF moments when out in the woods, hills and moors.
I am a totally rational person and don't believe in things like ghosts and have always just put things down to my imagination playing tricks on me or what ever.

While I have seen and heard things back home that were odd I have never had things happen to me like I have had happen here in Taiwan.
There is one particular occasion that sticks in my mind and I still wonder what that was to this day.

I often trek up rivers here as the jungle is just way too thick to reasonably travel through in most places. I quite often do this with just my self and my dog as he is way more capable than all my human friends.
We were in the mountains in north of Taiwan and started early in the morning and was expecting to spend most of the day on the hike (that was not to be the case). We were only about 1.5 miles up a river having treked for a couple of hours right up in the mountains with nothing around for a long way in every direction. I stopped to get some water out my bag and thought I saw someone in the corner of my eye as i looked down into my bag. I looked up and saw no one so I just grabbed my water and as I put my head back to take a drink I saw it again. I also noticed that my dog was seeing something too as he was looking over in the same place with that sort of WTF look that dogs do. That was odd and gave me a bit of a chill but i figured it was just nothing and kept on up the river. Then I started to really feel that there was someone right behind me almost looking over me causing me to spin round and have a look. This was really starting to freak me out and my dog was getting a bit upety as well. I was all goose bumps and was feeling rather alone when I saw a big shadow flash past me on my right hand side between me and the jungle line (my dog seemed to see it too). There was no birds at all and the tree canopy blocked out all direct sun light at that part so it wasn't imediately expalinable by animals or braches swaying in the wind or what ever. At any rate that was enough for me and I pretty much just ran (scrambled) the whole way back as fast as I could with the full on adrenaline dump feeling with the shakes and everything.

I still don't know if that was all the head or there is more too it but I just can't think of a good explanation for it.
All my Taiwanese friends just about died on the spot when i told them and said to never ever go back there......umm, no $h!t Sherlock

Haze:
Cool story.
I agree about the number of odd things that happen in Taiwan. I have had experiences here in the States, but there were so many odd experiences I had in Taiwan that I believe there's a lot going on there, and it probably has to do with Taiwan being a small, highly populated island with lots of history. Several of my Taiwanese friends used to tell me about very creepy stuff happening while they were serving in the military. Not to mention, I wonder about stuff that happens in the wilderness, if there isn't some connection to some Taiwanese Aboriginal spots, similar to many Native American burial grounds?
Jim

 

[jfn]

I was taking a Kung Fu class (when I was young and impressionable) and my teacher from Taiwan was telling us a story of how he used to have to travel to get to his master when he was a kid.
He told us how he would pass by a certain graveyard at night, and every so often he would see what could be described as will'o'wisps, floating glowing balls hanging around the graves. It would scare the crap out of him and he'd run the rest of the way home.
He then admitted to us that it was probably just gas escaping from the corpses and he shouldn't have been such a chickenshit

 

[James Y]

That's EXACTLY what it was...

and to believe Ghosts are real and can been seen and/or photographed-runs in the face of logic.

Does anyone believe Kalama's traps were set off by a Ghost??(that left no tracks---but somehow magically set off his trap>>??)

If so---I have a spaceship I'll sell you rides on.(it's invisable too)

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on some things.
Not everything's a ghost or other odd phenomena; most times there are "rational" explanations. But not everything is known to "rational" human minds. I don't know what it was that Kalama experienced, but I won't just discount anything either, without having been there.
Jim

 

[untamed]

Hmmmm. Holloween comes early. Not exactly a bad thing

Down here we call sleep paralysis the "old hag".
There is some folklore about it floating around on the internet if you are interested.

Just saw this thread now and it reminded of something I read -

"Old Hag Syndrome"

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa112000a.htm

Then there's the Incubus/Succubus phenomena

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa092099.htm


From an anthropological angle, here in my country (being a third-world nation), belief in such spooks and mysticism are still very much prevalent, especially in the provinces. The term bangungot means more than just a "nightmare", it's actually the deadly kind We Southeast Asian males are supposedly prone to SUDS -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unexplained_death_syndrome

 

[C_Kyle]

This has been an interesting thread. I was going to make jokes about how alien abductees are reabducted over and over, but I decided to be serious.

My ex-wife and her family believed in spirits, bad luck, bad places, etc. She, and they, used to see stuff all the time. One time, I hung a spoon on a free-standing rack, and it rocked back and forth a few time and then fell off. They about sh!t. The spoon was moving all by itself and then fell off, and all kinds of other crap. One foot of the rack was on top of the lip of the sink, and the rack was leaning forward just a hair. The spoon slipped off...end of story.

One time, her dad was attacked by a female native-american while he was sleeping. They had seen her before, standing in the hallway. He had scratches on his neck and back. I know what you're thinking, they were not from a live woman.

My wife and I would go to St. Augustine all the time, and she would always see stuff, or get a strange vibe from certain places.

I guess me being the knuckle-dragger that I am, keeps me from experiencing anything paranormal. I would really like to experience something bazaar, and I keep an open mind.

I do think that most of the paranormal activity is subconsciously created by the human mind.

 

[kalama]

im not saying its a ghost or im trying not to think of it as one,dont know what it was but it freaked me at that moment,now it will be in the back of my mind when i go out again ,tonite..,,,its like nite diving here they say the odds of getting attacked by a shark is rare ,but i still hear that dam JAWS song when im out their in the ocean,,,,i have some other stories but you wouldnt believe me if i told you,jus this one cuaght me off gaurd,,,hawaiis a very spirtual place ,loaded in superstition ask anyone whos from here,we just roll with it,,,aloha,everyone have a good one

 

[Bushman5]

Kalama, you need to make yourself a Maori war club for your woods wanderings....
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S8jhTldMZ9A/R56-wvG464I/AAAAAAAAAG4/V154lTSyJIc/s400/DSC_0136.JPG

http://www.sergeking.com/HAM/Images/mclub.jpg

 

[kalama]

the one with the shark teeth i have one we call it a leimano ,ill try get some pics of it,i want the maori jade war club thats cool i think its called the taila

 

[hector81]

Kalama, that was a creepy story.
and I'm interested in the other stories, I might believe you, and get very scared.

 

[C_Kyle]

I want to hear the other stories, also. I won't make fun; I do find it very interesting. Maybe one day I'll have a story to tell.