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Now that is a trolling remark from you rather than the OP.
At least most of us in here are seeing his issues as legitimate and serious enough to recommend him return it to ZT. I've known for a while how weak certain ZT liner locks were such as ZT 200 but some folks just wont want to see their favorite brand "slandered" by valid issues. *shrugs*
For the OP, I suggest if you can, send it to KAI to have them look at it.
Nothing against ZT / KAI, lord knows I've spent too many paychecks on their knives. So am I being unreasonable? No -- I think not, and I think ZT would agree. You can see (maybe) in the video that the lockup is more or less at about 35-40%, so it's not just an early lockup problem.
Now that is a trolling remark from you rather than the OP.
marcinek said:I happen to feel its an unreasonable test. If answering a question he asked is trolling, then I guess I'm guilty.
If somebody wants a thread full of spine whacks fans, say so. That's fine. Say so from the outset. Then coming in and saying something negative about spine whacks would be trolling. But hey, you ask for opinions, you get them. Sorry.
I was under the impression that you thought testing done on video was invalid and irrelevant.
You know, there is a whole subforum dedicated to knife reviews and testing. Why not post your testing there?
Sell it to someone that likes that kind of thing.
I know this might seem confusing so let's look at what I said and what you quoted me in your post:
So what about my statement and question that you quoted places your impression of my opinion in question? Or is this a thinly veiled and poorly executed personal attack. I mean you went out of your way to dig up all those old quotes of mine. I still stand by those quotes and my quoted statement above in no way contradicts them, as you imply with your statement.
I was simply pointing out the fact that there is a subforum for this kind of stuff. If this is truly an informational testing thread, and not a ZT troll thread, then why not post it in the appropriate subforum?
And gee, look were we are now![]()
How did you conclude that this is a troll thread?
I didn't conclude that it is a troll thread. In fact, I concluded that it is a testing and review thread and that the knife Reviews and testing subforum might be a better fit rather than General. Is it not a spine whack TEST thread? And look where it got moved to.
And the OP has not been back to answer the most basic of questions. Why not send it in to ZT if you think it is such a problem?
craytab said:What I am saying is that who knows what these people on the internet do to their knives and then post about them. Who knows. You sure as snot don't and neither do I. This makes it hear say and in no way any sort of credible evidence... Sorry, but a bunch of folks on youtube aren't evidence. They are just a bunch of folks on youtube, no matter what credit you might want to give them.
craytab said:I mean you went out of your way to dig up all those old quotes of mine.
craytab said:Why not send it in to ZT if you think it is such a problem?
marcinek said:Look I agree with the others. You don't like a knife? Send it back. Get it fixed. Its your knife, and you don't need us to tell you that you are "reasonable" before you do it.
Nellem said:KAI's excellent after-sales service do take care of these problem cases when they occur and that is the hope one holds onto when buying ZT.
cncpro11 said:Have you given them a chance yet to to look at the knife?
It seems like in the time between your first thread and posting the video you could have had the problem resolved.
Greykilt said:Focus on the Warranty.
tokerblue said:The better question is whether or not you've contacted ZT to look at the knife. If not, why haven't you?
I thought you said that any data in the form of a Youtube video is irrelevant data. If according to you the video and thus the OP is not to be trusted, why even post?
When I made a thread in Feedback some time ago, people dug up quotes from when I had just joined the site just to attack me on something that was completely irrelevant to said quotes. No one seemed to have a problem with that.
In fact, I believe you in particular were eager to condemn me and dismiss my arguments because of something I had posted months before, that was not even relevant to the discussion.
I did say that, in another thread. What I said in my first post of this thread is that this should be in Knife Reviews and Testing. You then used that point to bring up an argument from another thread unrelated to my post. That makes no sense and is just being argumentative.
Still upset over that? What does that have to do with this thread or what I posted? So in retaliation to a thread months ago you thought you would do it back? Okay then....
This is just beyond ridiculous and I will be done posting about it.
Still glad this is in Testing as it is a spine whack test review :thumbup:
Still waiting to hear from the OP why he has not sent the knife to ZT especially if he thinks ZT will agree with him. Wouldn't that mean they would fix the problem? Why not get it fixed?