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Sorry for all the posts but I can't find "The knife"

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Conner Michaux, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    The Condor Moonshiner is a cool knife and a chopper. Certainly not a typical EDC. They run under $100. Just fun to have a few big ones.
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  2. Conner Michaux

    Conner Michaux

    Jul 8, 2018
    How does the White River Knives Knucklehead handle?
    It looks like it would be a great EDC, Its also S30V so can't go wrong with that.
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  3. TheEdge01


    Apr 3, 2015
    Well, if you aren’t good at sharpening, then getting a knife with excellent edge retention means it will be a major pain in the rear when it does finally dull. Unless of course you take it to someone to have them sharpen it for you.
    I suggest learning to sharpen on a softer steel before upgrading.
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2018
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  4. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    Good advice. If you like knives, it's paramount that you learn to sharpen a knife. Starting with softer steels is a good way to approach this.
  5. gadgetgeek


    May 19, 2007
    Sheaths can be made, and blades can be reprofiled.
    Save up and get a jig system. Plenty out there, nothing wrong with using tools to get a job done.
  6. pfranze78


    Aug 31, 2016
    In my opinion there is no such thing as "The knife". There are always some little quirks that make it just not right. I, for instance, mostly have SAK's and all of them are good, but not 100% what I would want.

    In your case I would determin which blade steel, handle material, geometrie and lock type I'd like and go from there. Say you go for a axis lock, then your focus would be on Benchmade.

    Good luck!
  7. Conner Michaux

    Conner Michaux

    Jul 8, 2018
    I have a 400 grit wet stone, I have done a decent job sharpening a cutco kitchen knife. I got it to be pretty dang sharp, but I have only done that good on that knife.
  8. strategy9

    strategy9 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    Just fwiw; while learning to sharpen is a good skill to hone, be it waterstones, or diamond for more wear resistant high end steels, there is nothing wrong with sending/taking a knife (especially an expensive one) to a reputable professional to sharpen for you. No different theoretically as hiring a roofer,or an electrician, or a mechanic to do a job you aren't comfortable doing yourself...
  9. Conner Michaux

    Conner Michaux

    Jul 8, 2018
    Yeah until I get better at sharpening I will send my PM2 to get sharpened by a pro.
  10. Lyubomir Trayanov

    Lyubomir Trayanov Manly USA Dealer / Materials Provider

    Aug 29, 2017
    Manly Patriot D2 or CPM154 both under $100
  11. Earl1

    Earl1 Basic Member Basic Member

    May 11, 2016
    The manix 2 is one I've been wanting to get.
  12. DocT


    Mar 25, 2012
  13. Pomsbz


    Jul 31, 2015
    Any of the different types of SAK Pioneer and a Spyderco Sharpmaker. You may well never need anything else.
  14. tomsch

    tomsch Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 31, 2004
    I think about sharpening in two steps; 1) setting the primary bevel, and 2) being able to do a quick touch-up on something simple like a Spyderco Sharpmaker. That really means setting an angle that that can be touched up as a micro bevel. When everyone says that you are sharpening on a Sharpmaker and it is working that really means that the knife is sharpened to something less than 20dps so you are just hitting the apex. If you understand that then it becomes clear that a micro-bevel may be a good solution for you.
  15. Conner Michaux

    Conner Michaux

    Jul 8, 2018
    Do any of you have any knowledge on SK5 steel? I have been looking at the CRKT Siwi, but I don't know anything about the steel.
  16. DocT


    Mar 25, 2012
    It depends on which SK5 is being used. JIS or PN? They are different.
  17. DocJD


    Jan 29, 2016
    IIRC it's a carbon (non-stainless) steel . Cold Steel uses this to good effect but I don't trust CRKT to do it right .

    I almost bought this https://www.bladehq.com/item--CRKT-Johnson-Kangee-T-Hawk-13--15348 but read so many reviews of it badly chipping out I decided against . Bad heat treatment ? Can't say about the Siwi , but I'd check reviews for problems .

    Edit : Just scanned some reviews of the Siwi and didn't see any problems . With a 3" blade , toughness is not as important as in a hawk .
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2018
  18. Conner Michaux

    Conner Michaux

    Jul 8, 2018
    Ive seen some awesome stuff on the for sale part of this forum and I think Im going to save some money and find a knife I like.
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  19. Wowbagger


    Sep 20, 2015
    THAT is a first class suggestion !
    . . . and this thread is in serious, serious need of some photos.
    I was doing a critical cut today on some larger diameter soft rubber hose and as I have said before this is critical because it is right in the customer's face and it has to look factory perfect.
    Usually I use this knife which I have reprofiled extra thin and shallow angle and use only for this task.

    I have been EDCing the Rat 1 in D2 all week and decided to give it a try. This customer wasn't at all picky and I can fix it if I mess it up.
    I oiled the knife and the tubing and went for it. I have never sharpened or touched up this knife since I got it and it has a week of pretty decent / frequent use on some abrasive materials.
    . . . I couldn't believe how well the Rat did; nearly perfect and seriously effortless ! ! !
    I am so impressed !
    I decided to measure the thickness behind the edge and it is ~ 0.0195 inch and the surface of the sides of the blade are fairly polished (part of why it glided so well through this grabby material).
    A seriously PRACTICAL knife ! . . . and I haven't had to fix anything on it / pivots great no play.
    Buy one while you are looking for THE KNIFE.
  20. Earl1

    Earl1 Basic Member Basic Member

    May 11, 2016
    I have the rat2 in aus8. It's hard to believe that you can get that kind of quality for under 30 buck. I have to get a d2 model. I would like to see a rat between the size of the rat1 and rat2. Maybe a 3.25 blade I think would be perfect with a 4 inch or 4 1/4 inch handle I think. You can't go wrong with one of these though. Great knife at an affordable price

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