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Specs & Weights of Swamp Rat, Busse & Scrap Yard Knives

Discussion in 'Swamp Rat Knives' started by DWRW, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. DWRW

    DWRW

    Jul 21, 2005
    The following list is for reference purposes.

    *** Please keep in mind some specs can and do sometimes vary a bit from knife to knife. Sometimes the same knife is released at different times with slightly different grinds, thickness or handle materials. I have tried to specify significant variations in grinds such as "Full Flat" vs. Saber grind - when and where relevant. But, even with essentially same grinds and "visible" appearance, weights can vary.

    Typically, Busse and kin lengths per knife are VERY close and consistent. Most knife weights with same grinds and handle options are pretty consistent, but weights are more prone to variance than dimensions.

    G10 is known to weigh more than micarta. Hand shaped scales, magnum scales and similar scale variations from Busse can cause weight variences, along with "Variant" grinds, etc.

    Blade lengths are measured from end of handle material to blade tip.

    Res-C handles typically have less handle material forward of the grip than micarta/G10 scales. So, handle shapes and sizes forward of the grip area affect measurements of "Reach" of the blade from the grip.

    (SY) = Scrap Yard

    Busse knives listed at bottom.


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    Folder

    Rat Trap Folder (S30V) = 4.375 oz; .1875”; 3.9” blade; 9” oal



    Skeletons:

    RIP (Rat Ice Pick) (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .1875"; 8" oal

    Rat Tail (SR101) = 3.2 oz; .1875”; 3.75” blade; 7.75” oal

    Rat Shaker (SR101).. = ??? oz; .25”; 2.5” blade; 5” oal
    Rat Shaker II (SR101) = ??? oz; .25”; 2.5” blade; 5” oal

    Swamp Rat Warden 2007 (SR101) = 2.6 oz; .185" - .1875"; 3.0” blade; 7” oal
    Swamp Rat Warden 2010 (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .135" - .15"; 3.0” blade; 7” oal

    (SY) Scrapivore CG (SR101)(58-60 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125”; 2.75” blade; 6.5” oal
    (SY) Scrapivore LE (SR101)(62-64 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125”; 2.75” blade; 6.5” oal

    (SY) Dog Booty (Sandvik 12C27 - 58-60 Rc) = ? oz; .175"; 3.5" blade; 7.25" oal




    Mudders:

    Bog Dog (D2)... = 4.65 oz; .14"; 4.75" blade; 9.56" oal
    Bog Dog (SR101)= 4.9 oz; .15"; 4.75” blade; 9.56” oal

    (SY) SS4 (INFI).... = 5.4 oz; .2"; 4.25" blade; 9" oal
    (SY) S5CG (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .185”; 5.125” blade; 10.0625” oal
    (SY) S5LE (INFI)… = 6.6 oz; .169”; 5.125” blade; 10.0625” oal

    (SY) Mud Puppy (LE) (154CM) = 5 oz; .185”; 3.25” blade; 8.25” oal
    (SY) ScrapMuk (154CM)…….. = 6 oz; .1875”; 4.5” blade; 9.125” oal
    (SY) Bird Dog (LE) (154CM).. = 3.95 oz; .125”; 4.5” blade; 9.5” oal
    (SY) Wiener Dog (154CM) … = 3.80 oz; .125”; 3.75” blade; 8.75” oal



    Small Res-C handled knives:

    (SY) Scrap Max 340 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.30 - 3.4 oz.; 0.095"; 3.375" blade; 8.25 oal"
    (SY) Scrap Max 460 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.25 - 3.45 oz.; 0.095"; 4.5" - 4.6"; 9.1875" - 9.4"

    Bandicoot (SR101) = 5.25 oz; .1875”; 4.5” blade; 9” oal

    Howler - 2nd gen (SR101) = 6 oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

    (SY) Yard Keeper LE (SR77) = 7.5 oz; .268"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal
    (SY) Yard Keeper CG (SR77) = ? oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

    (SY) Dumpster Mutt CG (SR77) (Saber - small handle) = 9 oz; .27"; 5.25" blade; 9.75" oal
    (SY) Dumpster Mutt LE (SR77) (full flat - small handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal
    (SY) Dumpster Mutt DC (SR77) (full flat - larger handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal

    (SY) 311 (SR101) = 5.0 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8" oal
    (SY) 511 (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .1875"; 5.5" blade; 10" oal

    (SY) War Dog (INFI) (Full Height flat - satin) = 6.2 oz; .235"; 5" blade, 9.75" oal


    Small - Medium micarta/G10 handled knives:

    Rodent 3 (SR101) = ? oz; .1875"; 3"; 6.875"

    Vexillarius (Linen) (D2) = 5.25 oz; .14”; 3.75” blade (from front of choil); 8.25” oal

    Rodent Solution (SR101) = 6.4 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8.125" oal

    Rat Hunter (SR101) = 7.5 oz; .1875”; 4” blade; 8.25” oal
    Safari Skinner (D2).. = 6.75 oz; .125”; 3.75” blade; 8.75” oal
    SAR Rat (SR101)…. = 10.2 oz; .25”; 4.5” blade; 9.5” oal

    HCLE 3.5" blade Reg. Release (G10) (154CM) = 6.4 oz; .17”; 3.5” blade; 8.25” oal
    HCLE 3.5” blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.25 oz; .17”; 3.5” blade; 8.25” oal
    HCLE 4.0” blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.5 oz; .17”; 4.” blade; 8.75” oal
    HCLE 4.0” blade (2010 G10) (154CM)......... = 6.7 oz; .17”; 4.” blade; 8.69” oal

    Dog Skinner (black micarta) (D2).. = 7.25 oz; .15”; 4.25” blade; 9.4375” oal
    Dog Skinner (2-tone micarta) (D2) = 7.5 oz; .15”; 4.25” blade; 9.4375” oal

    HRLM (micarta) (SR101) = 9 oz; .19"; 4.13" blade; 9.3" oal

    Rodent 4 (SR101) = ? oz, .1875"; 4.625" blade; 9.5" oal

    Desert Jack (micarta) (SR101) = 10 oz; .175”; 6” blade; 11.25” oal

    Ratmandu (G10) (SR101)..... = 11 oz; .189"; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal
    Ratmandu (micarta) (SR101) = 9.4 - 10 oz; thickness varies over the years - reports of: .173", .189", .2" thick; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal

    RatManDeaux (RMDx LE) (Black Paper micarta) (SR101) (FULL Height Convex grind) = 12.2 oz; "approx." .1875"; 6” blade; 11.25” oal

    M6 (SR-101)(micarta) = 16.2 oz; .235"; 6" blade; 11.68" oal

    Rodent 6 (SR-101) - (Convex/Saber) = ? oz; .25"; 6.375" blade; 11.75" oal

    Mini Mojo (SR101) (blade catch) (micarta) = 17.6 oz; .245”; 6.875” blade; 12.625” oal
    Mini Uncle Mojo (SR101) (No blade catch) (micarta) = 17.3 oz; .245”; 6.875” blade; 12.625” oal



    Larger Res-C Handled knives:

    (SY) Scrapper 6 LE (SR77) = 12.7 oz; .268"; 6.25" blade; 11.44" oal

    Camp Tramp (SR101-Diff.TempLine) = 14.4 oz; .24"; 7.325" blade; 12.5" oal
    (SY) 711 (SR101-ThroughHard)..... = 14.6 oz; .25"; 7.375" blade; 12.5" oal

    (SY) Yard Guard (SR77) = 16 oz; .277"; 7.25" blade; 12.4" oal

    (SY) SODCG (SR77) = 15.7 oz; .264"; 7.5” blade; 12.5” oal
    (SY) SODLE (SR77) = 13.85 oz; .25”; 7.5” blade; 12.5” oal

    (SY) Regulator TT (Test Team - Full Flat) (SR101).... = 14.65 oz; .333”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
    (SY) Regulator MO (Military overrun - Saber) (SR101) = 15.8 oz; .333”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
    (SY) De-Regulator (Saber -single quillion) (SR101)..…. = 15.8 oz; .333”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
    (SY) Regulator Mil Overrun 6.5 (full flat - Modified tip) = 13.6 oz; .333”; 6.5” blade; 12” oal

    Battle Rat (SR101)…………. = 16.5 oz; .24”; 9.375” blade; 14.4375” oal
    Battle Rat (Satin) (SR101) = 15 oz; .23; 9.375” blade; 14.4375” oal
    Battle Guard (SR101)....... = 16.2 oz; .24"; 9.375” blade; 14.4375” oal

    (SY) 911 (SR101) = ? oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 14.5" oal

    (SY) Dog Father CG (SR77) = 20.1 oz; .275”; 10” blade; 15.125” oal
    (SY) Dog Father LE (SR77) = 17 oz; .25”; 10.0625” blade; 15.125” oal

    (SY) 1311 (SR101) = 18.8 oz.; .1875"; 13.5"; 18.25" oal


    Larger micarta/G10 handled knives:

    Taz Rat (micarta) (SR101) = 16.7 oz; .22"; 7.375" blade; 12.9375" oal

    Ratweiler (micarta) (SR101) = 19.8 oz; .25”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal

    Chopweiler - (micarta) (SR101) = 19.1 oz; .25”; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal
    Chopweiler – (G10) (SR101)….. = 20.5 oz; .25”; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal

    M9LE (Full Flat - G10) (SR101) = 19.35 oz; .23”; 9.125” blade; 14.875” oal
    M9CG (Saber Grind) (SR101).. = 20.8 oz; ???”; 9.125” blade; 14.875” oal

    R9LE (aka: Rodent 9) = ? oz; ?" thick; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal
    R9CG (aka: Rodent 9) = 22.7 oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal

    Rat Mastiff (micarta) (SR101) = 21.7 oz; .25”; 9.75” blade; 15.375” oal

    Rat Daddy-LE (SR101) = 21.8 oz; .25”; 10.5” blade; 16.25” oal
    Rat Daddy-CG (SR101) = 22 oz; .25”; 10.5” blade; 16.25” oal



    Hatchets & Axes:

    Paul’s Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25”; 2.9375” blade; 9.25” oal
    A2T Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25”; 2.9375” blade; 9.25” oal

    Crash Rat (SR77) = 29.8 oz; .25”; 3.75”edge; 3.5” spike; 14.25” oal

    Kill Devil Sniper Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 22 oz; 3.125" edge; 7" head height; 3.128" spike; 15.5" oal
    Rattle Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 26.5 oz; 3.5" head height; 3.5" spike; 17" oal



    Swords:

    Rodent Waki (G10) (SR101)…. = 33 oz; 0.195”; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal
    Rodent Waki (micarta) (SR101) = 31 oz; 0.195”; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal
    Rodent Rucki (SR101 58-60 RC) = 27 oz; 0.1875"; 15.25" blade; 23.25" oal

    (SY) Scrapizashi (SR77) = 29.2 oz; .19”; 17.375” blade; 27.25” oal



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    Busse Knives for comparison:

    A good source for a much more complete list of "Busse" knife specs can be found at BusseCollector.com : http://www.bussecollector.com/catalog/

    Another good source for Busse knife info and specs at HogCult.com : http://hogcult.com/chart

    Just "Some" of the more common Busse knives for comparison - Assume Canvas micarta unless noted otherwise - G10 tends to weigh a bit more:


    Assault Shaker = 3 oz; .25"; 2.5" blade; 5.5" oal
    Cultellus…...... = 3.7 oz; .125”; 3.5” blade; 8” oal

    Active Duty 2002 (micarta)........ = 5.2 oz; .22"; 3.5" blade; 7.88" oal
    Boney Active Duty (BAD) micarta = 4.75 oz; .135”; 3.5” blade; 7.88” oal
    Boney Active Duty (BAD) G10…… = 5.25 oz; .135”; 3.5” blade; 7.88” oal

    SLUT Duty (paper micarta)(Hollow Grind)(Skeletonized Tang) = 4.4 ounces; .22"; 3.5" blade; 7.88" oal

    Off Duty = ??? oz, .35"; 3.5" blade; 7.88" oal

    Mean Street 1999....... = 7 oz; .25"; 3.5" blade; 8.25" oal
    Mean Street 2002....... = ? oz; .22"; 4" blade; 8.63" oal
    Lean Mean Street 2004 = ? oz; .15"; 4" blade; 8.63" oal

    SLUT Street 2010 (paper micarta)(Hollow Grind)(Skeletonized Tang) = 5.2 ounces; .22"; 4" blade; 8.63" oal

    Boss Street = 8.5 oz; .22”; 4.25” blade; 9.125” oal

    C.A.B.S. - Choiless Anorexic Boss Street (Paper micarta)...... = 6.2 oz; .15"; 4” blade; 9” oal
    S.C.A.B.S. - Small Choil Anorexic Boss Street (Paper micarta) = 6.175 oz; .15"; 4” blade; 9” oal
    L.C.A.B.S. - Large Choil Anorexic Boss Street (Paper micarta) = 6.15 oz; .15"; 4” blade; 9” oal

    Pork Shank (G10) = 7 oz; .15"; 5.0" blade; 9.95" oal

    Urban Grudge = 9.35 oz; 0.243”; 5.375” blade; 10.5” oal
    HG55-LE...... = 11.5 oz; .25”; 5.5” blade; 10.75” oal

    SAR3LE (micarta) (Convex) = 5.3 oz; .16"; 3.25” blade; 7.375” oal
    SAR4SE (G10) (Convex) = 13.6 oz; .22”; 4.875” blade; 10.75” oal
    SAR5 (Convex)…….... = 10.85 oz; 0.2”; 5.0” blade; 10” oal
    SAR6 (Convex)....... = 16.3 oz; .220"; 6.25” blade; 12.5” oal
    SAR-8 SE (Convex) = 18.6 oz; .22"; 8.5" blade; 14.5" oal

    SARGE 7 LE (Convex - Skeletonized) = 14.7 oz; .235"; 7.75" blade; 13.5" oal

    BA-E………………. = 12.5 oz; .25”; 5.” blade; 10” oal
    BA-3 (Assym grind) = 9 oz; .19"; 4.5" blade; 9.75" oal

    BATAC-CG = 12.5 oz; .187”; 5” blade; 10.75” oal
    BATAC-LE = 16.3 oz; .25”; 5” blade; 10.75” oal

    SJ (aka: SHSJ) CG & LE (Saber) = 11 oz; .205"; 6.25" blade; 11.5" oal

    Boss Jack Proto (micarta)(Convex) = 11.55 oz; .22”; 6.25” blade; 11.25” oal
    Boss Jack Proto (G10)(Convex)..... = 12.5 oz; .22"; 6.25" blade; 11.25" oal
    Boss Jack (G10) (convex)............. = 11.7 - 12.35 oz (???); .22"; 6.25" blade; 11.25" oal
    Boss Jack LE (paper micarta)(Saber) = 9.5 oz; .18"; 6.25" blade; 11.25" oal

    SJTAC (Convex).... = 13.25 oz; .187”; 6.375” blade; 11.875” oal
    SJTAC-LE (Convex) = 15.6 oz; .22"; 6.375” blade; 11.875” oal

    Tankbuster = 18.25 oz; 0.25”; 6.375” blade; 12” oal
    Hell Razor.. = 14.75 oz; .1875”; 6.625” blade; 12.75” oal

    SARSquatch (linen) (Convex) = 17 oz; .1875”; 7” blade; 12.75” oal

    Skinny ASH1 (micarta) (Convex grind) = 14.85 oz; .1875”; 6.4” blade; 12” oal
    Skinny ASH1 (G10) (Convex grind)... = 15.25 oz; .1875"; 6.4” blade; 12” oal

    ASH1 – LE (Flat grind) = 15.15 oz; .22”; 6.4” blade; 12” oal
    ASH1 – CG (Flat grind) = 21 oz; 0.32”; 6.4” blade; 12” oal

    Terror Monkey – Desert Storm Fighter = 14.25 oz; .23"; 8” blade; 13.625” oal

    Team Gemini = 19.9 oz; .26"; 7.875" blade; 13.25" oal
    Team Gemini LE = 19.3 oz.

    Team Gemini Light Brigade (Anti-Vibe Skeletonized handle - Shallow Hollow grind) = 15.7 oz (for micarta); 7.75" blade; 13.25" oal
    - See: Scinece Behind Light Brigade: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...t-Series-(Cool-Pics)?highlight=science+gemini

    Mr. Mojo (CG/LE) (full height grind) = 16.5 oz; .25”; 8.5” blade; 14” oal
    Mr. MoFo (CG/LE)(Saber Grind).... = 17.5 oz; .25”; 8.5” blade; 14” oal
    Uncle MoFo (No Blade Catch)..... = 17.5 oz; .25”; 8.5” blade; 14” oal

    NO-E.............. = 17 oz; .25"; 6" blade; 11.5" oal
    SFNO-LE (mags) = 18.5 oz; .22”; 7” blade, 12.75” oal
    NMSFNO (mags) = 21 oz; .25”; 8.25” blade; 14” oal

    SH-E = 19 oz; .25"; 7.5" blade; 13.5" oal

    FSH (Saber grind) = 19.5 oz; .25"; 8" blade; 14" oal
    FSH (full flat grind) = 22 oz; .27”; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal
    NMFSH (Magnum G10) = 29.0 oz; .32"; 9.5"; 15.5"

    HHFSH (Saber grind) (micarta) = 23.5 oz; .27”; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal
    HHFSH (Saber grind) (G10)…... = 25 oz; .27”; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal

    Fusion Fury (Hollow)(G10) = 26.4 oz; 0.3125"; 8.125" blade; 14.25" oal

    Basic 4 LE = ?
    Basic 6 LE = ? oz; .25"; 6.5" blade; 11.5" oal
    Basic 10 LE (choil) = 14.6 oz; .23"; 10.25" blade; 15.25" oal
    Basic 10 LE (choiless - smaller ricasso) = 14.4 oz
    Basic 11 CG = 17.2 oz; .26”; 11.25” blade; 16.25" oal

    Argonne Assault LB(Lost Battalion) (shallow hollow grind-hollow tang) = 20.5 oz micarta / 21.5 oz G10; .25"; 10" blade; 16" oal
    - See: Many unique features: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/901532-Argonne-Assault-LB.-.-.-Specs-amp-Other-Info.-.-.-.-.-(Cool-Pics)

    Bushwacker Mistress CG = 22.4 oz; .1875”; 10.25” blade; 16.25” oal
    Bushwacker Mistress LE = ? oz; .22"; 10.25" blade; 16.25" oal

    FBM CG = 27.1 oz; 0.25”; 10” blade; 16” oal
    FBM LE = 30.3 oz; 0.312”; 10” blade; 16” oal

    FFBM (micarta) = 31.4 oz; 0.32”; 10” blade; 16” oal
    FFBM (G10)..... = 33.1 oz; 0.32”; 10” blade; 16” oal

    NMFBM CG .25" = 29.5 oz; .25”; 11.3125” blade; 17.5” oal
    NMFBM CG .28" = 32.9 oz; .28"; 11.3125" blade; 17.5" oal
    NMFBM LE....... = 32.8 oz; .275"; 11.3125" blade; 17.5" oal

    NMSHBM (Magnum micarta) = 21.5 oz; .24";

    BM-E = 21 oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 15" oal


    Killa Zilla (TT)(micarta?) = 36.7 oz; .26”; 12.25” blade; 18.75” oal
    Killa Zilla (TT)(G10)...... = 39 oz
    Killa Zilla II (micarta).... = 33.1 oz; .30"; 12" blade; 18.625" oal

    Paul's Hatchet = 14 oz; .25"; 3" blade; 9.25" oal


    American Butaniku = ? oz; ? thick; 31.5" blade; 43.5" oal
    AK-47 = 31 oz; .1875”; 18.5” blade; 29” oal
    Ruck... = 23.8 oz; .1875”; 15” blade; 23” oal
    Gladius = 40.4 oz; .30”; 16” blade; 23” oal


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    Last edited: Nov 1, 2012
  2. tomthebaker

    tomthebaker

    Dec 9, 2005
    WOW!! what a list. THANK YOU!!!
     
  3. Iboschi

    Iboschi

    Sep 17, 2009
    Thanks again DWRW!
     
  4. tundratrader

    tundratrader Banned BANNED

    Jan 10, 2009
    That is awesome. Really cool to have that all in one place.

    Thanks,
    Zach
     
  5. DWRW

    DWRW

    Jul 21, 2005
    You are welcome guys.

    ...... Now I just need to get some people to pull out their knives and accurate digital scales and calipers and post some fill-in specs and weights. :thumbup:

    I guess I will need to start another post below to hopefully get some input.
     
  6. IUKE12

    IUKE12

    Nov 25, 2005
    A commendable effort DWRW, thanks:thumbup:
     
  7. sandgrouper

    sandgrouper Basic Member Basic Member

    96
    Jan 20, 2007
    Ok, here are some missing ones I have measured and kept for my own records:

    SY S5LE 6.60 oz, 0.169"
    SY SODLE 13.85 oz
    SY SODCG 0.264"
    BC BATAC-CG (micata) 12.50 oz

    I will try to remember to weigh the D2 Safari Skinner at work tomorrow, I seem to have missed it.
     
  8. DWRW

    DWRW

    Jul 21, 2005
    Thanks Sandgrouper. I updated the specs you provided.
    I found a OLD post in Rat Chat stating the D2 Safari Skinner weighed 6.7 ounces.
    Feel free to confirm. - Again subtle variances sometimes exist.
     
  9. sleevefullofaces

    sleevefullofaces

    May 29, 2009
    Outstanding work. Thank you for posting!
     
  10. sandgrouper

    sandgrouper Basic Member Basic Member

    96
    Jan 20, 2007
    No worries, my D2 Safari Skinner came to 191.6g on the digital scales at work or 6.76 oz.
     
  11. DWRW

    DWRW

    Jul 21, 2005
    Thanks for the extra confirmation. A variance of .06 ounce (1.7 grams) is no big deal on that size knife and it would not be uncommon to see larger variances. I had 6.7 ounces, but since you seem to have a VERY accurate digital scale, I will go ahead and round up to 6.75 ounces on the chart. :thumbup:
    Still, actual variances WILL and do exist. The original 6.7 ounces could have been dead on for "That" knife.

    The mentallity of "Ballpark" weights for comparison needs to be kept in perspective. As I receive multiple specs, I am trying to average as reasonably as I can.
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2010
  12. high desert

    high desert

    May 20, 2009
    Thanks a lot
     
  13. AZTimT

    AZTimT The Stripetition Finish Guy Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 15, 2009
    Great list! I'll contribute what I can for the missing Busse stuff.

    On a $20 harbor freight digital scale I got the following weights. Did not have a tape handy for lengths.

    BOSS Jack CG Large choil with G10 is 12.35 oz
    " proto large choil with micarta is 11.55 oz both versions are .22 thick

    SAR 3 SE in G10 weighs 5.50 oz

    Skinny ASH1 (micarta) (Convex grind) = ??? ounces; .1875” thick; 6.4” blade; 12.0” oal = 14.85 oz with the mag micarta

    Gladius = ??? ounces; .30” thick; 16.0” blade; 23.0” oal = 40.40 oz for a CG with G10 before stripping and handle smoothing 40.00 after

    The hard to find coated NMFBM show version with machined G10 mags is a monster with .285 thickness and 35.30 oz

    Hope this helps.

    I will have to report back with TMDSF, ASH-1 LE, Ruck, and AK47 weights after I take my scales to that location. I think the unlisted Team Gemini is at said location.
     
  14. DWRW

    DWRW

    Jul 21, 2005
    Thanks AZTimT.

    I updated the Boss Jack info, Skinny ASH1 weight, SAR3SE-G10 and Gladius Weight.

    I will leave off the NMFBM "Show Version" as it appears to be a bit unique.

    I appreciate the feedback and look forward to getting the TMDSF, ASH-1 LE, Ruck and AK47 weights!

    I will add the Team Gemini as well if you can confirm the rest of the specs.

    Thanks again.
     
  15. AZTimT

    AZTimT The Stripetition Finish Guy Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 15, 2009
    No problem, I have some more specs, including some I didn't know were available.

    Ak-47 31.00 oz

    Ruck 23.80 oz

    SAR 8 SE (G10) 18.60 oz

    Terror Monkey DSF 14.25 oz

    ASH-1 LE 15.15 oz

    M9 CG saber 20.80 oz but I forgot to get the thickness

    Bird Dog 3.95 oz

    Wiener Dog 3.80 oz

    Team Gemini 19.90 oz 7.875" blade 13.25" oal but I forgot to get the thickness

    Any chance you could repost the Busse specs in the Busse forum so that we can have it stickied there? I don't want to just steal all of your work and start a thread that you deserve full credit for.

    Thanks again and great job on this!
    Tim
     
  16. DWRW

    DWRW

    Jul 21, 2005
    VERY cool. Thanks AZTimT. That fills a lot of my remaining holes.

    Liu Kang posted the thickness of the Team Gemini: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747162&highlight=gemini, but I went with your weight and length measurements. Not to doubt Liu's measurements, and again sometimes these measurements can vary a bit, but I get a sense you were trying to be pretty accurate. :thumbup:

    If you get a chance to confirm the M9CG's thickness, please let me know.

    I sort of hinted over on the Busse forum to see if this info was of interest to make a sticky or add to thatmguy's "Important Busse Information Consolidation Sticky", but "Nobody" - not one single reply with any interest. :confused:

    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=737416&highlight=weights

    I mentioned it again here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=737565&highlight=weights - still no real apparent interest to sticky - although, I got some good participation and feedback with that post. :thumbup:

    I would be happy to re-configure it to prioritize the Busse info. ;) ... But, I don't want to feel like I am forcing an issue. I would have thought the info would be appreciated and wanted by many... especially over time for convenient access and comparisons (????).

    I am glad Eric stickied this here. I hope others find value in the info.

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    Last edited: Jun 29, 2010
  17. lilknifekid

    lilknifekid

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    Aug 28, 2008
    Hope I didnt miss this somewhere-do swamp rat knives have a convex or flat grind?
     
  18. DWRW

    DWRW

    Jul 21, 2005
    The new RMDxLE is the first Swamp Rat "knife" to come with a "FULL height" factory convex "Primary" grind (no secondary edge grind) and worth noting on the specs above - so I will edit to add convex grind to the spec info on the RMDxLE. :thumbup:

    The Wakizashi has a convex primary grind, but secondary edge bevel.

    To my memory, those are the only two blades to have a convex primary grind from "Swamp Rat".

    Busse has released a few factory convexed blades including the: AK-47, Ruck, SJTAC, SAR5, SAR4, SAR3, SAR8, Skinny ASH1, ... Maybe the Bushwacker Mistress (????)... and maybe some others (????).

    No Swamp Rat or Scrap Yard to my knowledge has ever come with a hollow grind. And no Scandi grinds.
    Busse has released a few hollow grind knives over the years, but there is a long history of earlier variants.

    All others from Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard have been some variation of a flat grind - either saber or full height - with a secondary edge grind. The LARGE majority of Busse knives (like 99%) have been flat grind as well.

    Edges are a different matter. Some seem more flat than others. Some seem slightly convex. YMMV.

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    Last edited: Sep 25, 2010
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  19. lilknifekid

    lilknifekid

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    Aug 28, 2008
    Thanks for all the great info. Hope to pick up a Swamp Rat soon.
     
  20. lostzebrastripes

    lostzebrastripes Therefore, you will... NARFLE THE GARTHOK!

    566
    May 31, 2010
    Didn't notice a Scrapyard Dumpster Mutt (full flat grind & double cut) in the list....
    So here we go:
    OAL=9.5
    Blade=5
    Thickness=0.25
    Weight=7.7 ounces

    Just so you know I came in here for info on the handle because it seemed a little small, measuring out at roughly at 4.5 inches. Which I have no clue if this puts it into the small Res-C handles or the large.
    Thanks for your time and excellent post, it has definitely come in handy.
    Hope the info proves helpful.
    Mike
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2010

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