Specs & Weights of Swamp Rat, Busse & Scrap Yard Knives

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The following list is for reference purposes.

*** Please keep in mind some specs can and do sometimes vary a bit from knife to knife. Sometimes the same knife is released at different times with slightly different grinds, thickness or handle materials. I have tried to specify significant variations in grinds such as "Full Flat" vs. Saber grind - when and where relevant. But, even with essentially same grinds and "visible" appearance, weights can vary.

Typically, Busse and kin lengths per knife are VERY close and consistent. Most knife weights with same grinds and handle options are pretty consistent, but weights are more prone to variance than dimensions.

G10 is known to weigh more than micarta. Hand shaped scales, magnum scales and similar scale variations from Busse can cause weight variences, along with "Variant" grinds, etc.

Blade lengths are measured from end of handle material to blade tip.

Res-C handles typically have less handle material forward of the grip than micarta/G10 scales. So, handle shapes and sizes forward of the grip area affect measurements of "Reach" of the blade from the grip.

(SY) = Scrap Yard

Busse knives listed at bottom.


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Folder

Rat Trap Folder (S30V) = 4.375 oz; .1875”; 3.9” blade; 9” oal



Skeletons:

RIP (Rat Ice Pick) (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .1875"; 8" oal

Rat Tail (SR101) = 3.2 oz; .1875”; 3.75” blade; 7.75” oal

Rat Shaker (SR101).. = ??? oz; .25”; 2.5” blade; 5” oal
Rat Shaker II (SR101) = ??? oz; .25”; 2.5” blade; 5” oal

Swamp Rat Warden 2007 (SR101) = 2.6 oz; .185" - .1875"; 3.0” blade; 7” oal
Swamp Rat Warden 2010 (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .135" - .15"; 3.0” blade; 7” oal

(SY) Scrapivore CG (SR101)(58-60 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125”; 2.75” blade; 6.5” oal
(SY) Scrapivore LE (SR101)(62-64 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125”; 2.75” blade; 6.5” oal

(SY) Dog Booty (Sandvik 12C27 - 58-60 Rc) = ? oz; .175"; 3.5" blade; 7.25" oal




Mudders:

Bog Dog (D2)... = 4.65 oz; .14"; 4.75" blade; 9.56" oal
Bog Dog (SR101)= 4.9 oz; .15"; 4.75” blade; 9.56” oal

(SY) SS4 (INFI).... = 5.4 oz; .2"; 4.25" blade; 9" oal
(SY) S5CG (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .185”; 5.125” blade; 10.0625” oal
(SY) S5LE (INFI)… = 6.6 oz; .169”; 5.125” blade; 10.0625” oal

(SY) Mud Puppy (LE) (154CM) = 5 oz; .185”; 3.25” blade; 8.25” oal
(SY) ScrapMuk (154CM)…….. = 6 oz; .1875”; 4.5” blade; 9.125” oal
(SY) Bird Dog (LE) (154CM).. = 3.95 oz; .125”; 4.5” blade; 9.5” oal
(SY) Wiener Dog (154CM) … = 3.80 oz; .125”; 3.75” blade; 8.75” oal



Small Res-C handled knives:

(SY) Scrap Max 340 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.30 - 3.4 oz.; 0.095"; 3.375" blade; 8.25 oal"
(SY) Scrap Max 460 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.25 - 3.45 oz.; 0.095"; 4.5" - 4.6"; 9.1875" - 9.4"

Bandicoot (SR101) = 5.25 oz; .1875”; 4.5” blade; 9” oal

Howler - 2nd gen (SR101) = 6 oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

(SY) Yard Keeper LE (SR77) = 7.5 oz; .268"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal
(SY) Yard Keeper CG (SR77) = ? oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

(SY) Dumpster Mutt CG (SR77) (Saber - small handle) = 9 oz; .27"; 5.25" blade; 9.75" oal
(SY) Dumpster Mutt LE (SR77) (full flat - small handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal
(SY) Dumpster Mutt DC (SR77) (full flat - larger handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal

(SY) 311 (SR101) = 5.0 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8" oal
(SY) 511 (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .1875"; 5.5" blade; 10" oal

(SY) War Dog (INFI) (Full Height flat - satin) = 6.2 oz; .235"; 5" blade, 9.75" oal


Small - Medium micarta/G10 handled knives:

Rodent 3 (SR101) = ? oz; .1875"; 3"; 6.875"

Vexillarius (Linen) (D2) = 5.25 oz; .14”; 3.75” blade (from front of choil); 8.25” oal

Rodent Solution (SR101) = 6.4 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8.125" oal

Rat Hunter (SR101) = 7.5 oz; .1875”; 4” blade; 8.25” oal
Safari Skinner (D2).. = 6.75 oz; .125”; 3.75” blade; 8.75” oal
SAR Rat (SR101)…. = 10.2 oz; .25”; 4.5” blade; 9.5” oal

HCLE 3.5" blade Reg. Release (G10) (154CM) = 6.4 oz; .17”; 3.5” blade; 8.25” oal
HCLE 3.5” blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.25 oz; .17”; 3.5” blade; 8.25” oal
HCLE 4.0” blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.5 oz; .17”; 4.” blade; 8.75” oal
HCLE 4.0” blade (2010 G10) (154CM)......... = 6.7 oz; .17”; 4.” blade; 8.69” oal

Dog Skinner (black micarta) (D2).. = 7.25 oz; .15”; 4.25” blade; 9.4375” oal
Dog Skinner (2-tone micarta) (D2) = 7.5 oz; .15”; 4.25” blade; 9.4375” oal

HRLM (micarta) (SR101) = 9 oz; .19"; 4.13" blade; 9.3" oal

Rodent 4 (SR101) = ? oz, .1875"; 4.625" blade; 9.5" oal

Desert Jack (micarta) (SR101) = 10 oz; .175”; 6” blade; 11.25” oal

Ratmandu (G10) (SR101)..... = 11 oz; .189"; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal
Ratmandu (micarta) (SR101) = 9.4 - 10 oz; thickness varies over the years - reports of: .173", .189", .2" thick; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal

RatManDeaux (RMDx LE) (Black Paper micarta) (SR101) (FULL Height Convex grind) = 12.2 oz; "approx." .1875"; 6” blade; 11.25” oal

M6 (SR-101)(micarta) = 16.2 oz; .235"; 6" blade; 11.68" oal

Rodent 6 (SR-101) - (Convex/Saber) = ? oz; .25"; 6.375" blade; 11.75" oal

Mini Mojo (SR101) (blade catch) (micarta) = 17.6 oz; .245”; 6.875” blade; 12.625” oal
Mini Uncle Mojo (SR101) (No blade catch) (micarta) = 17.3 oz; .245”; 6.875” blade; 12.625” oal



Larger Res-C Handled knives:

(SY) Scrapper 6 LE (SR77) = 12.7 oz; .268"; 6.25" blade; 11.44" oal

Camp Tramp (SR101-Diff.TempLine) = 14.4 oz; .24"; 7.325" blade; 12.5" oal
(SY) 711 (SR101-ThroughHard)..... = 14.6 oz; .25"; 7.375" blade; 12.5" oal

(SY) Yard Guard (SR77) = 16 oz; .277"; 7.25" blade; 12.4" oal

(SY) SODCG (SR77) = 15.7 oz; .264"; 7.5” blade; 12.5” oal
(SY) SODLE (SR77) = 13.85 oz; .25”; 7.5” blade; 12.5” oal

(SY) Regulator TT (Test Team - Full Flat) (SR101).... = 14.65 oz; .333”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
(SY) Regulator MO (Military overrun - Saber) (SR101) = 15.8 oz; .333”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
(SY) De-Regulator (Saber -single quillion) (SR101)..…. = 15.8 oz; .333”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
(SY) Regulator Mil Overrun 6.5 (full flat - Modified tip) = 13.6 oz; .333”; 6.5” blade; 12” oal

Battle Rat (SR101)…………. = 16.5 oz; .24”; 9.375” blade; 14.4375” oal
Battle Rat (Satin) (SR101) = 15 oz; .23; 9.375” blade; 14.4375” oal
Battle Guard (SR101)....... = 16.2 oz; .24"; 9.375” blade; 14.4375” oal

(SY) 911 (SR101) = ? oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 14.5" oal

(SY) Dog Father CG (SR77) = 20.1 oz; .275”; 10” blade; 15.125” oal
(SY) Dog Father LE (SR77) = 17 oz; .25”; 10.0625” blade; 15.125” oal

(SY) 1311 (SR101) = 18.8 oz.; .1875"; 13.5"; 18.25" oal


Larger micarta/G10 handled knives:

Taz Rat (micarta) (SR101) = 16.7 oz; .22"; 7.375" blade; 12.9375" oal

Ratweiler (micarta) (SR101) = 19.8 oz; .25”; 7.5” blade; 13” oal

Chopweiler - (micarta) (SR101) = 19.1 oz; .25”; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal
Chopweiler – (G10) (SR101)….. = 20.5 oz; .25”; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal

M9LE (Full Flat - G10) (SR101) = 19.35 oz; .23”; 9.125” blade; 14.875” oal
M9CG (Saber Grind) (SR101).. = 20.8 oz; ???”; 9.125” blade; 14.875” oal

R9LE (aka: Rodent 9) = ? oz; ?" thick; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal
R9CG (aka: Rodent 9) = 22.7 oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal

Rat Mastiff (micarta) (SR101) = 21.7 oz; .25”; 9.75” blade; 15.375” oal

Rat Daddy-LE (SR101) = 21.8 oz; .25”; 10.5” blade; 16.25” oal
Rat Daddy-CG (SR101) = 22 oz; .25”; 10.5” blade; 16.25” oal



Hatchets & Axes:

Paul’s Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25”; 2.9375” blade; 9.25” oal
A2T Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25”; 2.9375” blade; 9.25” oal

Crash Rat (SR77) = 29.8 oz; .25”; 3.75”edge; 3.5” spike; 14.25” oal

Kill Devil Sniper Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 22 oz; 3.125" edge; 7" head height; 3.128" spike; 15.5" oal
Rattle Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 26.5 oz; 3.5" head height; 3.5" spike; 17" oal



Swords:

Rodent Waki (G10) (SR101)…. = 33 oz; 0.195”; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal
Rodent Waki (micarta) (SR101) = 31 oz; 0.195”; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal
Rodent Rucki (SR101 58-60 RC) = 27 oz; 0.1875"; 15.25" blade; 23.25" oal

(SY) Scrapizashi (SR77) = 29.2 oz; .19”; 17.375” blade; 27.25” oal



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Busse Knives for comparison:

A good source for a much more complete list of "Busse" knife specs can be found at BusseCollector.com : http://www.bussecollector.com/catalog/

Another good source for Busse knife info and specs at HogCult.com : http://hogcult.com/chart

Just "Some" of the more common Busse knives for comparison - Assume Canvas micarta unless noted otherwise - G10 tends to weigh a bit more:


Assault Shaker = 3 oz; .25"; 2.5" blade; 5.5" oal
Cultellus…...... = 3.7 oz; .125”; 3.5” blade; 8” oal

Active Duty 2002 (micarta)........ = 5.2 oz; .22"; 3.5" blade; 7.88" oal
Boney Active Duty (BAD) micarta = 4.75 oz; .135”; 3.5” blade; 7.88” oal
Boney Active Duty (BAD) G10…… = 5.25 oz; .135”; 3.5” blade; 7.88” oal

SLUT Duty (paper micarta)(Hollow Grind)(Skeletonized Tang) = 4.4 ounces; .22"; 3.5" blade; 7.88" oal

Off Duty = ??? oz, .35"; 3.5" blade; 7.88" oal

Mean Street 1999....... = 7 oz; .25"; 3.5" blade; 8.25" oal
Mean Street 2002....... = ? oz; .22"; 4" blade; 8.63" oal
Lean Mean Street 2004 = ? oz; .15"; 4" blade; 8.63" oal

SLUT Street 2010 (paper micarta)(Hollow Grind)(Skeletonized Tang) = 5.2 ounces; .22"; 4" blade; 8.63" oal

Boss Street = 8.5 oz; .22”; 4.25” blade; 9.125” oal

C.A.B.S. - Choiless Anorexic Boss Street (Paper micarta)...... = 6.2 oz; .15"; 4” blade; 9” oal
S.C.A.B.S. - Small Choil Anorexic Boss Street (Paper micarta) = 6.175 oz; .15"; 4” blade; 9” oal
L.C.A.B.S. - Large Choil Anorexic Boss Street (Paper micarta) = 6.15 oz; .15"; 4” blade; 9” oal

Pork Shank (G10) = 7 oz; .15"; 5.0" blade; 9.95" oal

Urban Grudge = 9.35 oz; 0.243”; 5.375” blade; 10.5” oal
HG55-LE...... = 11.5 oz; .25”; 5.5” blade; 10.75” oal

SAR3LE (micarta) (Convex) = 5.3 oz; .16"; 3.25” blade; 7.375” oal
SAR4SE (G10) (Convex) = 13.6 oz; .22”; 4.875” blade; 10.75” oal
SAR5 (Convex)…….... = 10.85 oz; 0.2”; 5.0” blade; 10” oal
SAR6 (Convex)....... = 16.3 oz; .220"; 6.25” blade; 12.5” oal
SAR-8 SE (Convex) = 18.6 oz; .22"; 8.5" blade; 14.5" oal

SARGE 7 LE (Convex - Skeletonized) = 14.7 oz; .235"; 7.75" blade; 13.5" oal

BA-E………………. = 12.5 oz; .25”; 5.” blade; 10” oal
BA-3 (Assym grind) = 9 oz; .19"; 4.5" blade; 9.75" oal

BATAC-CG = 12.5 oz; .187”; 5” blade; 10.75” oal
BATAC-LE = 16.3 oz; .25”; 5” blade; 10.75” oal

SJ (aka: SHSJ) CG & LE (Saber) = 11 oz; .205"; 6.25" blade; 11.5" oal

Boss Jack Proto (micarta)(Convex) = 11.55 oz; .22”; 6.25” blade; 11.25” oal
Boss Jack Proto (G10)(Convex)..... = 12.5 oz; .22"; 6.25" blade; 11.25" oal
Boss Jack (G10) (convex)............. = 11.7 - 12.35 oz (???); .22"; 6.25" blade; 11.25" oal
Boss Jack LE (paper micarta)(Saber) = 9.5 oz; .18"; 6.25" blade; 11.25" oal

SJTAC (Convex).... = 13.25 oz; .187”; 6.375” blade; 11.875” oal
SJTAC-LE (Convex) = 15.6 oz; .22"; 6.375” blade; 11.875” oal

Tankbuster = 18.25 oz; 0.25”; 6.375” blade; 12” oal
Hell Razor.. = 14.75 oz; .1875”; 6.625” blade; 12.75” oal

SARSquatch (linen) (Convex) = 17 oz; .1875”; 7” blade; 12.75” oal

Skinny ASH1 (micarta) (Convex grind) = 14.85 oz; .1875”; 6.4” blade; 12” oal
Skinny ASH1 (G10) (Convex grind)... = 15.25 oz; .1875"; 6.4” blade; 12” oal

ASH1 – LE (Flat grind) = 15.15 oz; .22”; 6.4” blade; 12” oal
ASH1 – CG (Flat grind) = 21 oz; 0.32”; 6.4” blade; 12” oal

Terror Monkey – Desert Storm Fighter = 14.25 oz; .23"; 8” blade; 13.625” oal

Team Gemini = 19.9 oz; .26"; 7.875" blade; 13.25" oal
Team Gemini LE = 19.3 oz.

Team Gemini Light Brigade (Anti-Vibe Skeletonized handle - Shallow Hollow grind) = 15.7 oz (for micarta); 7.75" blade; 13.25" oal
- See: Scinece Behind Light Brigade: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...t-Series-(Cool-Pics)?highlight=science+gemini

Mr. Mojo (CG/LE) (full height grind) = 16.5 oz; .25”; 8.5” blade; 14” oal
Mr. MoFo (CG/LE)(Saber Grind).... = 17.5 oz; .25”; 8.5” blade; 14” oal
Uncle MoFo (No Blade Catch)..... = 17.5 oz; .25”; 8.5” blade; 14” oal

NO-E.............. = 17 oz; .25"; 6" blade; 11.5" oal
SFNO-LE (mags) = 18.5 oz; .22”; 7” blade, 12.75” oal
NMSFNO (mags) = 21 oz; .25”; 8.25” blade; 14” oal

SH-E = 19 oz; .25"; 7.5" blade; 13.5" oal

FSH (Saber grind) = 19.5 oz; .25"; 8" blade; 14" oal
FSH (full flat grind) = 22 oz; .27”; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal
NMFSH (Magnum G10) = 29.0 oz; .32"; 9.5"; 15.5"

HHFSH (Saber grind) (micarta) = 23.5 oz; .27”; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal
HHFSH (Saber grind) (G10)…... = 25 oz; .27”; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal

Fusion Fury (Hollow)(G10) = 26.4 oz; 0.3125"; 8.125" blade; 14.25" oal

Basic 4 LE = ?
Basic 6 LE = ? oz; .25"; 6.5" blade; 11.5" oal
Basic 10 LE (choil) = 14.6 oz; .23"; 10.25" blade; 15.25" oal
Basic 10 LE (choiless - smaller ricasso) = 14.4 oz
Basic 11 CG = 17.2 oz; .26”; 11.25” blade; 16.25" oal

Argonne Assault LB(Lost Battalion) (shallow hollow grind-hollow tang) = 20.5 oz micarta / 21.5 oz G10; .25"; 10" blade; 16" oal
- See: Many unique features: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/901532-Argonne-Assault-LB.-.-.-Specs-amp-Other-Info.-.-.-.-.-(Cool-Pics)

Bushwacker Mistress CG = 22.4 oz; .1875”; 10.25” blade; 16.25” oal
Bushwacker Mistress LE = ? oz; .22"; 10.25" blade; 16.25" oal

FBM CG = 27.1 oz; 0.25”; 10” blade; 16” oal
FBM LE = 30.3 oz; 0.312”; 10” blade; 16” oal

FFBM (micarta) = 31.4 oz; 0.32”; 10” blade; 16” oal
FFBM (G10)..... = 33.1 oz; 0.32”; 10” blade; 16” oal

NMFBM CG .25" = 29.5 oz; .25”; 11.3125” blade; 17.5” oal
NMFBM CG .28" = 32.9 oz; .28"; 11.3125" blade; 17.5" oal
NMFBM LE....... = 32.8 oz; .275"; 11.3125" blade; 17.5" oal

NMSHBM (Magnum micarta) = 21.5 oz; .24";

BM-E = 21 oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 15" oal


Killa Zilla (TT)(micarta?) = 36.7 oz; .26”; 12.25” blade; 18.75” oal
Killa Zilla (TT)(G10)...... = 39 oz
Killa Zilla II (micarta).... = 33.1 oz; .30"; 12" blade; 18.625" oal

Paul's Hatchet = 14 oz; .25"; 3" blade; 9.25" oal


American Butaniku = ? oz; ? thick; 31.5" blade; 43.5" oal
AK-47 = 31 oz; .1875”; 18.5” blade; 29” oal
Ruck... = 23.8 oz; .1875”; 15” blade; 23” oal
Gladius = 40.4 oz; .30”; 16” blade; 23” oal


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You are welcome guys.

...... Now I just need to get some people to pull out their knives and accurate digital scales and calipers and post some fill-in specs and weights. :thumbup:

I guess I will need to start another post below to hopefully get some input.

 

Thanks Sandgrouper. I updated the specs you provided.
I found a OLD post in Rat Chat stating the D2 Safari Skinner weighed 6.7 ounces.
Feel free to confirm. - Again subtle variances sometimes exist.

 

Thanks for the extra confirmation. A variance of .06 ounce (1.7 grams) is no big deal on that size knife and it would not be uncommon to see larger variances. I had 6.7 ounces, but since you seem to have a VERY accurate digital scale, I will go ahead and round up to 6.75 ounces on the chart. :thumbup:
Still, actual variances WILL and do exist. The original 6.7 ounces could have been dead on for "That" knife.

The mentallity of "Ballpark" weights for comparison needs to be kept in perspective. As I receive multiple specs, I am trying to average as reasonably as I can.

 

Thanks AZTimT.

I updated the Boss Jack info, Skinny ASH1 weight, SAR3SE-G10 and Gladius Weight.

I will leave off the NMFBM "Show Version" as it appears to be a bit unique.

I appreciate the feedback and look forward to getting the TMDSF, ASH-1 LE, Ruck and AK47 weights!

I will add the Team Gemini as well if you can confirm the rest of the specs.

Thanks again.

 

VERY cool. Thanks AZTimT. That fills a lot of my remaining holes.

Liu Kang posted the thickness of the Team Gemini: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747162&highlight=gemini, but I went with your weight and length measurements. Not to doubt Liu's measurements, and again sometimes these measurements can vary a bit, but I get a sense you were trying to be pretty accurate. :thumbup:

If you get a chance to confirm the M9CG's thickness, please let me know.

I sort of hinted over on the Busse forum to see if this info was of interest to make a sticky or add to thatmguy's "Important Busse Information Consolidation Sticky", but "Nobody" - not one single reply with any interest.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=737416&highlight=weights

I mentioned it again here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=737565&highlight=weights - still no real apparent interest to sticky - although, I got some good participation and feedback with that post. :thumbup:

I would be happy to re-configure it to prioritize the Busse info. ... But, I don't want to feel like I am forcing an issue. I would have thought the info would be appreciated and wanted by many... especially over time for convenient access and comparisons (????).

I am glad Eric stickied this here. I hope others find value in the info.

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The new RMDxLE is the first Swamp Rat "knife" to come with a "FULL height" factory convex "Primary" grind (no secondary edge grind) and worth noting on the specs above - so I will edit to add convex grind to the spec info on the RMDxLE. :thumbup:

The Wakizashi has a convex primary grind, but secondary edge bevel.

To my memory, those are the only two blades to have a convex primary grind from "Swamp Rat".

Busse has released a few factory convexed blades including the: AK-47, Ruck, SJTAC, SAR5, SAR4, SAR3, SAR8, Skinny ASH1, ... Maybe the Bushwacker Mistress (????)... and maybe some others (????).

No Swamp Rat or Scrap Yard to my knowledge has ever come with a hollow grind. And no Scandi grinds.
Busse has released a few hollow grind knives over the years, but there is a long history of earlier variants.

All others from Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard have been some variation of a flat grind - either saber or full height - with a secondary edge grind. The LARGE majority of Busse knives (like 99%) have been flat grind as well.

Edges are a different matter. Some seem more flat than others. Some seem slightly convex. YMMV.

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