Specs & Weights of Swamp Rat, Busse & Scrap Yard Knives

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Great list! I'll contribute what I can for the missing Busse stuff.
 

tuica

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Thanks to all who contributed here. I refer to my hard-copy version several times per week. Has really assisted in my increasing knowledge on Busse-kins...Cheers.
 

chiral.grolim

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Been measuring my SYKCO Mudd Mutt:

5.25" Blade + 5" Handle = 10.25" OAL
Blade is 1.25" wide = ~0.53" flat + 0.68 primary bevel + 0.040 edge bevel (on average).
Edge shoulder is 0.030" thick in the belly, 0.040 mid-sweep.

EDIT - one of mine weighs 5.95oz, so 6 oz is a nice round estimate.
 
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OnceBitten

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...... Now I just need to get some people to pull out their knives and accurate digital scales and calipers and post some fill-in specs and weights. :thumbup:

My Yard Keeper CG weighs 6.2 ounces.

I don't remember if the CG had a full height flat grind or if it had a saber grind.

Full height flat grind


Thanks for a great Thread!

:encouragement:
 
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AZTimT

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Per a request this evening I thought I would add this here:
My bruiser BT6 measures as follows:
11 3/4" OAL with a tip to handle blade length of 6 1/8" .215" thick at ricasso in front of handle.
It is a nice saber flat primary grind piece of INFI that weighs in at 16.3 oz with G10 handles.

This thread could use a lot of updating!
 

TRog

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^yes exactly what Tim said. The OP needs a total overhaul and needs some major updating bad!
 

TRog

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Your absolutly right elof. Who knows if DWRW is even still around and i thank him so much for taking the time and effort to put this thread together but with this thread being a sticky i, and hundreds of other members, would hope that several super mods could join forces like Voltron and revamp this baby. Fingers crossed is all i can hope for.
 

bikerector

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*I'm just cleaning this up some since it looks like the formatting took a hit when the new website launched or something. I'm not changing any numbers here just getting rid of the extra figures that are showing up, specifically the "&#8221"*. I took out some busse content since I am limited in characters.

-bikerector

The following list is for reference purposes.

*** Please keep in mind some specs can and do sometimes vary a bit from knife to knife. Sometimes the same knife is released at different times with slightly different grinds, thickness or handle materials. I have tried to specify significant variations in grinds such as "Full Flat" vs. Saber grind - when and where relevant. But, even with essentially same grinds and "visible" appearance, weights can vary.

Typically, Busse and kin lengths per knife are VERY close and consistent. Most knife weights with same grinds and handle options are pretty consistent, but weights are more prone to variance than dimensions.

G10 is known to weigh more than micarta. Hand shaped scales, magnum scales and similar scale variations from Busse can cause weight variences, along with "Variant" grinds, etc.

Blade lengths are measured from end of handle material to blade tip.

Res-C handles typically have less handle material forward of the grip than micarta/G10 scales. So, handle shapes and sizes forward of the grip area affect measurements of "Reach" of the blade from the grip.

(SY) = Scrap Yard

Busse knives listed at bottom.


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Folder

Rat Trap Folder (S30V) = 4.375 oz; .1875;; 3.9; blade; 9; oal



Skeletons:

RIP (Rat Ice Pick) (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .1875"; 8" oal

Rat Tail (SR101) = 3.2 oz; .1875; 3.75; blade; 7.75; oal

Rat Shaker (SR101).. = ??? oz; .25; 2.5 blade; 5 oal
Rat Shaker II (SR101) = ??? oz; .25; 2.5 blade; 5 oal

Swamp Rat Warden 2007 (SR101) = 2.6 oz; .185" - .1875"; 3.0 blade; 7 oal
Swamp Rat Warden 2010 (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .135" - .15"; 3.0 blade; 7 oal

(SY) Scrapivore CG (SR101)(58-60 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125; 2.75 blade; 6.5 oal
(SY) Scrapivore LE (SR101)(62-64 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125; 2.75 blade; 6.5 oal

(SY) Dog Booty (Sandvik 12C27 - 58-60 Rc) = ? oz; .175"; 3.5" blade; 7.25" oal




Mudders:

Bog Dog (D2)... = 4.65 oz; .14"; 4.75" blade; 9.56" oal
Bog Dog (SR101)= 4.9 oz; .15"; 4.75 blade; 9.56 oal

(SY) SS4 (INFI).... = 5.4 oz; .2"; 4.25" blade; 9" oal
(SY) S5CG (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .185; 5.125 blade; 10.0625 oal
(SY) S5LE (INFI) = 6.6 oz; .169; 5.125 blade; 10.0625 oal

(SY) Mud Puppy (LE) (154CM) = 5 oz; .185; 3.25 blade; 8.25 oal
(SY) ScrapMuk (154CM) = 6 oz; .1875; 4.5 blade; 9.125 oal
(SY) Bird Dog (LE) (154CM).. = 3.95 oz; .125; 4.5 blade; 9.5 oal
(SY) Wiener Dog (154CM) = 3.80 oz; .125; 3.75 blade; 8.75 oal



Small Res-C handled knives:

(SY) Scrap Max 340 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.30 - 3.4 oz.; 0.095"; 3.375" blade; 8.25 oal"
(SY) Scrap Max 460 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.25 - 3.45 oz.; 0.095"; 4.5" - 4.6"; 9.1875" - 9.4"

Bandicoot (SR101) = 5.25 oz; .1875; 4.5 blade; 9 oal

Howler - 2nd gen (SR101) = 6 oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

(SY) Yard Keeper LE (SR77) = 7.5 oz; .268"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal
(SY) Yard Keeper CG (SR77) = ? oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

(SY) Dumpster Mutt CG (SR77) (Saber - small handle) = 9 oz; .27"; 5.25" blade; 9.75" oal
(SY) Dumpster Mutt LE (SR77) (full flat - small handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal
(SY) Dumpster Mutt DC (SR77) (full flat - larger handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal

(SY) 311 (SR101) = 5.0 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8" oal
(SY) 511 (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .1875"; 5.5" blade; 10" oal

(SY) War Dog (INFI) (Full Height flat - satin) = 6.2 oz; .235"; 5" blade, 9.75" oal


Small - Medium micarta/G10 handled knives:

Rodent 3 (SR101) = ? oz; .1875"; 3"; 6.875"

Vexillarius (Linen) (D2) = 5.25 oz; .14; 3.75 blade (from front of choil); 8.25 oal

Rodent Solution (SR101) = 6.4 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8.125" oal

Rat Hunter (SR101) = 7.5 oz; .1875; 4 blade; 8.25 oal
Safari Skinner (D2).. = 6.75 oz; .125; 3.75 blade; 8.75 oal
SAR Rat (SR101) = 10.2 oz; .25; 4.5 blade; 9.5 oal

HCLE 3.5" blade Reg. Release (G10) (154CM) = 6.4 oz; .17; 3.5 blade; 8.25 oal
HCLE 3.5 blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.25 oz; .17; 3.5 blade; 8.25 oal
HCLE 4.0 blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.5 oz; .17; 4.0 blade; 8.75 oal
HCLE 4.0 blade (2010 G10) (154CM)......... = 6.7 oz; .17; 4.0 blade; 8.69 oal

Dog Skinner (black micarta) (D2).. = 7.25 oz; .15; 4.25 blade; 9.4375 oal
Dog Skinner (2-tone micarta) (D2) = 7.5 oz; .15; 4.25 blade; 9.4375 oal

HRLM (micarta) (SR101) = 9 oz; .19"; 4.13" blade; 9.3" oal

Rodent 4 (SR101) = ? oz, .1875"; 4.625" blade; 9.5" oal

Desert Jack (micarta) (SR101) = 10 oz; .175; 6 blade; 11.25 oal

Ratmandu (G10) (SR101)..... = 11 oz; .189"; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal
Ratmandu (micarta) (SR101) = 9.4 - 10 oz; thickness varies over the years - reports of: .173", .189", .2" thick; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal

RatManDeaux (RMDx LE) (Black Paper micarta) (SR101) (FULL Height Convex grind) = 12.2 oz; "approx." .1875"; 6 blade; 11.25 oal

M6 (SR-101)(micarta) = 16.2 oz; .235"; 6" blade; 11.68" oal

Rodent 6 (SR-101) - (Convex/Saber) = ? oz; .25"; 6.375" blade; 11.75" oal

Mini Mojo (SR101) (blade catch) (micarta) = 17.6 oz; .245; 6.875 blade; 12.625 oal
Mini Uncle Mojo (SR101) (No blade catch) (micarta) = 17.3 oz; .245; 6.875 blade; 12.625 oal



Larger Res-C Handled knives:

(SY) Scrapper 6 LE (SR77) = 12.7 oz; .268"; 6.25" blade; 11.44" oal

Camp Tramp (SR101-Diff.TempLine) = 14.4 oz; .24"; 7.325" blade; 12.5" oal
(SY) 711 (SR101-ThroughHard)..... = 14.6 oz; .25"; 7.375" blade; 12.5" oal

(SY) Yard Guard (SR77) = 16 oz; .277"; 7.25" blade; 12.4" oal

(SY) SODCG (SR77) = 15.7 oz; .264"; 7.5 blade; 12.5 oal
(SY) SODLE (SR77) = 13.85 oz; .25; 7.5 blade; 12.5 oal

(SY) Regulator TT (Test Team - Full Flat) (SR101).... = 14.65 oz; .333; 7.5 blade; 13 oal
(SY) Regulator MO (Military overrun - Saber) (SR101) = 15.8 oz; .333; 7.5 blade; 13 oal
(SY) De-Regulator (Saber -single quillion) (SR101) = 15.8 oz; .333; 7.5 blade; 13 oal
(SY) Regulator Mil Overrun 6.5 (full flat - Modified tip) = 13.6 oz; .333; 6.5 blade; 12 oal

Battle Rat (SR101) = 16.5 oz; .24; 9.375 blade; 14.4375 oal
Battle Rat (Satin) (SR101) = 15 oz; .23; 9.375 blade; 14.4375 oal
Battle Guard (SR101)....... = 16.2 oz; .24"; 9.375 blade; 14.4375 oal

(SY) 911 (SR101) = ? oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 14.5" oal

(SY) Dog Father CG (SR77) = 20.1 oz; .275; 10 blade; 15.125 oal
(SY) Dog Father LE (SR77) = 17 oz; .25; 10.0625 blade; 15.125 oal

(SY) 1311 (SR101) = 18.8 oz.; .1875"; 13.5"; 18.25" oal


Larger micarta/G10 handled knives:

Taz Rat (micarta) (SR101) = 16.7 oz; .22"; 7.375" blade; 12.9375" oal

Ratweiler (micarta) (SR101) = 19.8 oz; .25; 7.5 blade; 13 oal

Chopweiler - (micarta) (SR101) = 19.1 oz; .25; 7.5625 blade; 13.1875 oal
Chopweiler (G10) (SR101) = 20.5 oz; .25; 7.5625 blade; 13.1875 oal

M9LE (Full Flat - G10) (SR101) = 19.35 oz; .23; 9.125 blade; 14.875 oal
M9CG (Saber Grind) (SR101).. = 20.8 oz; ???; 9.125 blade; 14.875 oal

R9LE (aka: Rodent 9) = ? oz; ?" thick; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal
R9CG (aka: Rodent 9) = 22.7 oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal

Rat Mastiff (micarta) (SR101) = 21.7 oz; .25; 9.75 blade; 15.375 oal

Rat Daddy-LE (SR101) = 21.8 oz; .25; 10.5 blade; 16.25 oal
Rat Daddy-CG (SR101) = 22 oz; .25; 10.5 blade; 16.25 oal



Hatchets & Axes:

Paul's Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25; 2.9375 blade; 9.25 oal
A2T Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25; 2.9375 blade; 9.25 oal

Crash Rat (SR77) = 29.8 oz; .25; 3.75 edge; 3.5 spike; 14.25 oal

Kill Devil Sniper Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 22 oz; 3.125" edge; 7" head height; 3.128" spike; 15.5" oal
Rattle Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 26.5 oz; 3.5" head height; 3.5" spike; 17" oal



Swords:

Rodent Waki (G10) (SR101) = 33 oz; 0.195; 17.0 blade; 27.625 oal
Rodent Waki (micarta) (SR101) = 31 oz; 0.195; 17.0 blade; 27.625 oal
Rodent Rucki (SR101 58-60 RC) = 27 oz; 0.1875"; 15.25" blade; 23.25" oal

(SY) Scrapizashi (SR77) = 29.2 oz; .19; 17.375 blade; 27.25 oal



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Busse Knives for comparison:

A good source for a much more complete list of "Busse" knife specs can be found at BusseCollector.com : http://www.bussecollector.com/catalog/

Another good source for Busse knife info and specs at HogCult.com : http://hogcult.com/chart
 

bikerector

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Looking this over, I see a few missing, like the tallywhacker. Probably need to update this with the new AD6 and FFG RMD specs

Any other new ones? I like having a place to reference this info when I'm shopping about for Busse kin in the exchange.
 

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RLB

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Well Frizzle Frazzle. The Yard is still down. Once it comes back up I will try and copy all the info and past it here like the OP did.
 

bikerector

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Well Frizzle Frazzle. The Yard is still down. Once it comes back up I will try and copy all the info and past it here like the OP did.

From my attempts, the yard has been down since around mid-year last year, maybe closer to fall, but it has been a good while now.
 

bikerector

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With the yard and swamp revived, could be a fun project for someone to get this page updated if they have the time.
 
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