Spyderco Carbon Fiber?

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arty said:
Am I missing something here? The handles made of G10 or CF are mostly resin. Aren't they mainly a plastic?
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Its a bit misleading to call it plastic, not because its not, but because plastic conjures images of cheap toys and such. The resins are, generally, a fair bit more advanced than that.

Regardless no its not mostly resin (plastic) unless you're doing it wrong. The quality of your composite will be based, in no small part, by how LITTLE resin you have in there. Obviously the resin needs to fill the gaps between the fibers, but its not as strong as the fibers so to a point the more of it you can squeeze out the better. Composites which have a high resin content are much weaker and are considered inferior. Its a non-homogenous material that has specific directionality once made. Some people have a bit of a hard time wrapping their head around the whole thing, so I'd recommend a quick trip over to the tubes to find a video if you're still a little confused about how composites are made. :D

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While some are certainly made of pre-saturated layers, the type of carbon we see on knives is, again this is pretty broad brushstrokes here its not all done the same way, layered as a dry cloth, exposed to vacuum, and resin is allowed to permeate. It is held under high pressure and temperature to facilitate resin extraction and curing. Again check the tubes. :)

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A quick look at the tubes revealed this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFNaoklYELY

There are different techniques, and this wasn't obviously for flat sheets nor high quality structural carbon, but you get the general idea.
 
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Sounds like there are still those nagative about Spyderco. For those that feel they have been deceived into buying something other then they expected, you have my apologies. It was never our intention. You are welcome to send your knife back to us. Call it to my attention and let us know what knife of equal value you would prefer, or send a sales receipt with the knife and we'll refund your purchase price.

sal
 
Spyderco knives are my favorites, and the Chaparral spends more time in my pocket than the Caly 3 or Walker.
The Chaparral knife has nicer aesthetics than the others, and feels better in the hand, partly because of the scales.
Can't beat that!
 
Sal Glesser said:
Sounds like there are still those nagative about Spyderco. For those that feel they have been deceived into buying something other then they expected, you have my apologies. It was never our intention. You are welcome to send your knife back to us. Call it to my attention and let us know what knife of equal value you would prefer, or send a sales receipt with the knife and we'll refund your purchase price.

sal
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not sure this is necessary. don't see the whole drama in all this. if anybody is aware of a way to get the same texture on a classic piece of solid CF i'll stop, but you can't go raving about the perfect grip texture and look and suddenly feel robbed when you learn how it's made. this material is this way, it looks cool, it feels cool, and its perfectly fonctional as a knife scale, plus you got the knife cheaper than the equivalent with solid CF. sticking the layer of CF weave on solid CF would be pure stupidity imho. a waste of money.

sure the description could have been more accurate but that's something i noticed right when unboxing mine, it's clearly obvious. if i didnt like this i could have returned it. no drama needed.

call my reaction fanboism if you want, that would be the first time, i'm actually more inclined to be the opposite, i was even one of the first to talk about this a year or two ago with a lot of stupid reaction. but when a insist saying that its a laminate its because thats what it is, not because its bad.
 
Who really cares? It's mostly for aesthetics and granted you did pay a lot for the carbon fiber but seriously guys... It's not like a car or airplane where carbon fiber will help strengthen it because the current scales are failing entirely. G10 is a strong plastic with fiber.
 
This thread is still going?

Personally, I don't have a problem with the laminate. G-10 is not much heavier than CF, and is every bit as strong (if not stronger in some tests I've seen), and the laminate that Spyderco uses on their Taichung CF models looks absolutely gorgeous, and has a good grippy feel to it. It's all good as far as I'm concerned.
 
Well now we know what it´s made of , and that was the topic of the thread.

1234,,,,:)
 
damn, everywhere I go there seems to be whining about really insignificant issues.

assisted open spring rattles...
lockup is early...is this normal?
coating got scratched...
pocket clip got bent...
feels gritty...
handle isn't grippy enough...
handle is too grippy...
and now, there's not enough carbon fiber...
 
gooeytek said:
damn, everywhere I go there seems to be whining about really insignificant issues.

assisted open spring rattles...
lockup is early...is this normal?
coating got scratched...
pocket clip got bent...
feels gritty...
handle isn't grippy enough...
handle is too grippy...
and now, there's not enough carbon fiber...
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Haha! Well put! You can criticize anything... If you don't like it deal with it. If you can't deal with it then get rid of it.
 
real CF or not i fully intend to buy a spyderco knife, i would just like to know which ones have full CF handle scales.
 
I for one, have owned the Sage and GB since their release. I've carried and used both knives over the last couple of years and have no complaints. I don't care if it is solid CF, CF Laminate, or petrified unicorn horn composite. Sal, there is no need to sweat this. Some folks would complain if they were hung with a brand new rope. :rolleyes:
 
Personally, I don't get what all the fuss is about. I'd rather pocket my "CF" Chaparral than one in titanium. That is why I have two of the CF models and none of the newer ones in a metal alloy.
I prefer the CF, layered or not, to the metal on knife handles. I also prefer the looks of the Chaparral handle to regular G10.
What's not to like?
All of this is subjective, and people should buy what they like.
 
I've got a newly-acquired Air sitting in my pocket..... I really like the layer of silver twill over the translucent G10 :)

The build quality is so nice that it has convinced me to pick up a Gayle Bradley for a hard user.

Maybe some of you should pick up another hobby....... nitpicking insignificant things like this just shows the obsessive qualities that come out of people who are too deep in the 'I'd rather put this knife under a microscope and find something to whine about on an internet forum' mentality. I personally prefer a 'use the damn knife' mentality. :)
 
symphonyincminor said:
I've got a newly-acquired Air sitting in my pocket..... I really like the layer of silver twill over the translucent G10 :)

The build quality is so nice that it has convinced me to pick up a Gayle Bradley for a hard user.

Maybe some of you should pick up another hobby....... nitpicking insignificant things like this just shows the obsessive qualities that come out of people who are too deep in the 'I'd rather put this knife under a microscope and find something to whine about on an internet forum' mentality. I personally prefer a 'use the damn knife' mentality. :)
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wow that air is really nice!

now im between the air, the navaja, and the endura 4 wave. can i get some opinions on these 3

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Air. At first, I thought it too small. Then, I found that I was carrying it along with other EDCs, supplementing my larger blades because it can do so without taking up a lot of space or weight. It's so unobtrusive and discreet, yet packs a high-end steel, titanium, and composite laminates.

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SilentJohn said:
real CF or not i fully intend to buy a spyderco knife, i would just like to know which ones have full CF handle scales.
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If you want solid carbon fiber, then look for the ones from Japan or Golden. I have a peel ply sprint military from Golden and thd polished CF Caly 3 from Seki and they are both solid CF. The Taichung Taiwan maker is the one that makes his own style CF and they use the style with the G10 under a twill CF top. Funny thing is, the Taiwan stuff has the nicest look and feel in my opinion. It has a 3 dimensional twill texture that is pretty cool (Sage 1). Hope that helps answer your question.
 
SilentJohn said:
wow that air is really nice!

now im between the air, the navaja, and the endura 4 wave. can i get some opinions on these 3

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Of those 3, I only have the Endura wave. It's not on the same level of fancy as the others but the price reflects it too. The blade is fairly stout because of the wave so it can have a pretty obtuse grind on it from the factory. I don't carry mine often these days but its a great, tough beater knife and has a built in beer bottle opener.
 
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