Spyderco Carbon Fiber?

[5.56]

Agreed. The OP asked a question and the community showed up answered it.

There's no need to read into it any further or make claims that members are bashing Spyderco.

 

[RandomAyes]

Special thanks to 5.56 and CrimsonTideShooter for running this one downfield. It often troubles me how these forums try to shut down any perceived negativity, even to the exclusion of facts. The so-called drama that many seem to loathe may at times be the only way a little-known fact becomes common knowledge. Knowledge is power, power to the community!

 

[1234]

Thanks , Ken !

To all , because the questions were asked we now are better informed than ever about Spyderco CF scales ,
I did some searches here and on the official Spyderco forum , plus some other forums + youtube, and as far as I could gather this subject has been discussed/speculated about several times over a couple of years but never before fully explained , that has now changed and the future catalogs will now contain the info on the matter as well , so I would like to say thanks to OP for starting the thread that led to more information for the fans & the non-fans & those in between.

I would also like to thank Sal for sharing the information with us.



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PS this thread will be a reference thread for future discussion , trust me on this , I am from the future.

 

[SilentJohn]

its a tough choice . i have to say that now i am between the air and the E4 wave

 

[1234]

Agreed. The OP asked a question and the community showed up answered it.

There's no need to read into it any further or make claims that members are bashing Spyderco.

Special thanks to 5.56 and CrimsonTideShooter for running this one downfield. It often troubles me how these forums try to shut down any perceived negativity, even to the exclusion of facts. The so-called drama that many seem to loathe may at times be the only way a little-known fact becomes common knowledge. Knowledge is power, power to the community!

+1

1234,,,:thumbup:

 

[Steel130]

Thanks , Ken !

To all , because the questions were asked we now are better informed than ever about Spyderco CF scales ,
I did some searches here and on the official Spyderco forum , plus some other forums + youtube, and as far as I could gather this subject has been discussed/speculated about several times over a couple of years but never before fully explained , that has now changed and the future catalogs will now contain the info on the matter as well , so I would like to say thanks to OP for starting the thread that led to more information for the fans & the non-fans & those in between.

I would also like to thank Sal for sharing the information with us.



1234,,,,

PS this thread will be a reference thread for future discussion , trust me on this , I am from the future.

Good post! Knowledge is power. And we can now divulge accurate information on the topic if it arises again. I know I am just kind of recapping. But it is good to see the community hash these things out.

 

[Ken44]

Agreed. The OP asked a question and the community showed up answered it.

There's no need to read into it any further or make claims that members are bashing Spyderco.

Special thanks to 5.56 and CrimsonTideShooter for running this one downfield. It often troubles me how these forums try to shut down any perceived negativity, even to the exclusion of facts. The so-called drama that many seem to loathe may at times be the only way a little-known fact becomes common knowledge. Knowledge is power, power to the community!

Thanks , Ken !

To all , because the questions were asked we now are better informed than ever about Spyderco CF scales ,
I did some searches here and on the official Spyderco forum , plus some other forums + youtube, and as far as I could gather this subject has been discussed/speculated about several times over a couple of years but never before fully explained , that has now changed and the future catalogs will now contain the info on the matter as well , so I would like to say thanks to OP for starting the thread that led to more information for the fans & the non-fans & those in between.

I would also like to thank Sal for sharing the information with us.



1234,,,,

PS this thread will be a reference thread for future discussion , trust me on this , I am from the future.

Another +1:thumbup:

This is a wrap, so please no more bashing of other forum members. Thanks.


edit- Steel 130, a +1 to your post as well.

 

[Steel130]

Thanks buddy.

 

[JNewell]

Nope, I see the bevel, it's beveled g10. The cf layer is literally just the very outside layer, about the thickness of a sheet of paper.

Whoa, been at work for 24 hours and look what happens...

You are right (see more below) - I don't know if it's literally the thickness of a sheet of paper, but that's close enough for government work...it's just a few thou or so.

In any event, I did what I wanted to avoid...disassembled one of my GBs, which is a pre-logo version. The scales are indeed G10 backed, so it's a laminate. It was not clear from the edge, but it is clear when you look at the flat underside.

Whether this matters or not, I express no opinion. I think if I'd had a scale chip the way one of photos above shows, I'd be disappointed, but I would also bet that Spyderco might replace it - or I'd hope so, anyway. I should add that I dropped mine from waist height onto tarmac and chipped the edge but it didn't delaminate the way the one in the photo did. Dressed it with a little 400 paper and some Superglue and you can't really tell without seeing the divot, which is pretty well disguised by the CF basketweave texture.

 

[JNewell]

I'm mostly with you, but...

First, there is an issue about labeling. In the context of how Spyderco and Sal operate, I give them the benefit of the doubt.

Second, there is another issue that I guess might be more important. I've dropped and chipped the scales on my GB and it didn't delaminate, but there's a photo somewhere up above of one that did delaminate, which would absolutely not happen if the scales were solid. So, there is a serviceability/durability issue here, I think.

I for one, have owned the Sage and GB since their release. I've carried and used both knives over the last couple of years and have no complaints. I don't care if it is solid CF, CF Laminate, or petrified unicorn horn composite. Sal, there is no need to sweat this. Some folks would complain if they were hung with a brand new rope.

 

[JNewell]

You won't have a problem. CF and G-10 is about as tough as it gets, nothing you mention will ever hurt it.

I am neither fanboy nor hater/basher...I do think there's an issue raised by the photo of the delaminated scale. See my post just above.

 

[Popsickle]

u went and checked my gayle bradley, and you guys are right...... and guess what? I DONT CARE! Its still hands down one of the best knives on the market for the money!

 

[Minibear464]

I'm mostly with you, but...

First, there is an issue about labeling. In the context of how Spyderco and Sal operate, I give them the benefit of the doubt.

Second, there is another issue that I guess might be more important. I've dropped and chipped the scales on my GB and it didn't delaminate, but there's a photo somewhere up above of one that did delaminate, which would absolutely not happen if the scales were solid. So, there is a serviceability/durability issue here, I think.

Once again, I think Spyderco has done everything they can to solve the problem. If you still don't like it, Sal has given you the option to send in the knife and have a refund/replacement. In the future, these knives will be clearly marked. I think that covers everything and satisfies everyone.

 

[hunterseeker5]

Another +1:thumbup:

This is a wrap, so please no more bashing of other forum members. Thanks.


edit- Steel 130, a +1 to your post as well.

Thanks , Ken !

To all , because the questions were asked we now are better informed than ever about Spyderco CF scales ,
I did some searches here and on the official Spyderco forum , plus some other forums + youtube, and as far as I could gather this subject has been discussed/speculated about several times over a couple of years but never before fully explained , that has now changed and the future catalogs will now contain the info on the matter as well , so I would like to say thanks to OP for starting the thread that led to more information for the fans & the non-fans & those in between.

I would also like to thank Sal for sharing the information with us.



1234,,,,

PS this thread will be a reference thread for future discussion , trust me on this , I am from the future.

Special thanks to 5.56 and CrimsonTideShooter for running this one downfield. It often troubles me how these forums try to shut down any perceived negativity, even to the exclusion of facts. The so-called drama that many seem to loathe may at times be the only way a little-known fact becomes common knowledge. Knowledge is power, power to the community!

Agreed. The OP asked a question and the community showed up answered it.

There's no need to read into it any further or make claims that members are bashing Spyderco.

^All this. All these members who show up and say "guess what, don't care" thats great, but not relevant. If you read the first few pages, clearly this needed to be hashed out, and the apparent "anti-resolution" tack in this thread seems odd to me. The knowledge of whether or not the scales are full CF or a single layer of CF so far NOBODY has said would change their opinion on whether or not they'd buy/want to own the knife. That doesn't mean that it wasn't something worth pursuing, knowledge is almost without exception worth pursuing, and the fact that the scrutiny makes some people uncomfortable I don't think is as much a reflection as us the pursuers as those who feel "persecuted." Its not a witch hunt, nobody is being burned at the stake, but I take offense at the notion that knowledge and truth somehow don't matter. Is that fair?

 

[Ken44]

My only concern with the laminated CF is how it would react to oil, grease, brake fluid, brake clean, transmission fluid etc. Being a mechanic this is important. I have had the knife for months and I have had no problems so far.

You won't have a problem. CF and G-10 is about as tough as it gets, nothing you mention will ever hurt it.

I am neither fanboy nor hater/basher...I do think there's an issue raised by the photo of the delaminated scale. See my post just above.

JNewell, if you look at the post above mine you can see I was only answering his question with his concerns about oil, grease, brake fluid, transmission fluid, etc...

^All this. All these members who show up and say "guess what, don't care" thats great, but not relevant. If you read the first few pages, clearly this needed to be hashed out, and the apparent "anti-resolution" tack in this thread seems odd to me. The knowledge of whether or not the scales are full CF or a single layer of CF so far NOBODY has said would change their opinion on whether or not they'd buy/want to own the knife. That doesn't mean that it wasn't something worth pursuing, knowledge is almost without exception worth pursuing, and the fact that the scrutiny makes some people uncomfortable I don't think is as much a reflection as us the pursuers as those who feel "persecuted." Its not a witch hunt, nobody is being burned at the stake, but I take offense at the notion that knowledge and truth somehow don't matter. Is that fair?

Yes, very fair.


Now, I'm going to call this thing a wrap again, and maybe it can drift away
Just kidding JNewel, as I know you were away for 24hr, and thats the only reason you brought it up from page 2.


It seems to be staying civil now, with zero bashing of anyone. Lets please keep it that way:thumbup:

 

[Moosez45]

Ok, thats it. I'm buying some more Spydercos.
Sal, see you at Blade.

Moose

 

[arty]

Waiting for one in the mail right now.

 

[5.56]

Special thanks to 5.56 and CrimsonTideShooter for running this one downfield.

+1

1234,,,:thumbup:

Another +1:thumbup:

^All this.

Anytime guys.

That's what this place is all about.:thumbup:

 

[1234]

And now for an old cosmetic trick , I put some super glue on the CF laminate edges on my Zsabo with a Q-tip , a little is enough ,
so it looks even better now.:thumbup:


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[FCM415]

Once again, I think Spyderco has done everything they can to solve the problem. If you still don't like it, Sal has given you the option to send in the knife and have a refund/replacement. In the future, these knives will be clearly marked. I think that covers everything and satisfies everyone.

Yeah but some wont be satisfied till the world burns...They like the conflict, and to comment about how everyone are trolls other than them. It's doesn't even have to be the problem being discussed and solved anymore.