Spyderco Fixed Blades - Opinions?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I would love to see Spyderco make a puukko-type knife, but I have to admit that I don't know how well it would sell.

Still though, you could make some substantial changes to the traditional puukko and offer a very cool knife... A smallish puukko with a modern stainless blade and full tang; thin handle, slightly curved at the butt end, with G-10 scales; versatile kydex sheath... It could actually be a big hit!
 
I totally love the idea of a modernized puukko from Spyderco, but I feel that Spyderco probably shouldn't do another Moran -- by which I mean, a technical tour-de-force appreciated by knife knuts but somewhat ho-hummed everywhere else. Benchmade did it right -- they jumped back into the fixed-blade game with a knife that grabbed people and screamed "I'm sexy! Buy me!". They made it in a size that is very carryable, a great all-around format, and as a collaboration with a famous maker.

For those reasons if nothing else, I love the idea of a high-profile project. I still the factory tanto collaboration arena is *extremely* weak. It's an area where Spyderco can come in, stomp the competition, and offer a really useful, high-performing product that generates some excitement. Multi-carry sheath, very high performance edge, sleek lines, solid materials perhaps available later with a "supersteel" option.

Either that, or a really sexy offering in the defense/utility area where the Nimravus plays. But to avoid looking like a "me too" offering, it's gotta be better and sexier than the Nimravus.

Joe
 
A fixed-blade sheepsfoot "rescue/river" knife would not be "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon," and should therefore be street-legal for concealed carry in California, for quick draw in an emergency, or in case somebody serves you a steak and a dull knife.


------------------
- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
I just wanted to add my vote to the rest for some sort of Spyderco Puukko.

[This message has been edited by Alan_B (edited 07-04-2000).]
 
Hi Sal....

Excellent...

I've got a Moran,, and it is one of the best fixed blades I own.

The Moran has a lot of possibilities for use.. It's an All around Great Knife...

1. What types of models do you think we should produce? (hunting, urban, MBC, etc.)

Hunting,, some tactical would be cool...


2. What materials do you think would be most appreciated?

The same high quality materials you use on your folders...


3. What type of sheaths are best?

Definately High quality Concealex sheaths...

I have a Blade-Tech Moran sheath and it is absolutely the Best factory sheath I've seen.


4. What size range (blade)?

No longer than 4.5"-5.0"


5. What MSRP do you think we should try for?

Good Question...


6. Country of origin opinions?

1- USA
2- Japan

Looking forward in seeing some new FB models Sal..

ttyle Eric...


------------------
Eric E. Noeldechen
On/Scene Tactical
http://www.mnsi.net/~nbtnoel
Custom,Quality, Concealex Sheaths.

Leading The Way In Synthetic Sheathing.
 
A Spyderco "puukko" should come with a dangler type sheath, that will move out of the way when you sit down. It's not a "quick-draw" system, but a deep pouch that hugs the knife handle. The knife is normally carried openly, so both knife and sheath should be, if not beautiful, at least non-ugly.

One would wear it while walking quietly in the woods, or at a ski resort, or around town without looking like a commando. It might be something that an independent woman would have dangling openly from her purse strap.

Some designs, both tradtional and recent, allow the knife to be carried for right-hand or left-hand use. This can be done either with a handle and sheath design that let the knife be inserted either way, or by having the belt loop or thong capable of being attached to either side of the sheath.

"Puukko" is a Finnish word, but in English usage among knife people it has come to include the Swedish and Norwegian types of small woodcrafty knife too. The usual blade length is about 10cm or 4". I like the designs that have a something to grab onto at the butt end of the handle, to draw if from a tight sheath.


------------------
- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
Sal,
4.5 5.5 inches of ATS-34, Micarta with big screws and Lum's Tanto single guard blade (tactical) and his chineese utility blade. two blade styles should please most. The grinds might be expensive, but the rest is simple and indestructible. I am very fond of the Lum Templeguard. I purchased one from Eric Remmen few years back!
Puko is a great design also yes yes

------------------
It is all Greek to me
 
Sal, why not ask Bob Lum if he would be interested in making some prototypes, or share ideas with us?
 
Sal
I think that there are really good ideas here. But James hit it best. First a really good pairing knife type design. Almost a bird'n'trout style. Maybe a little larger on the handle?, but not much. Good all-around user.

Next???? Lots more,

Handle material? Micarta type material, tough, looks good polished, and still lets you get a good grip. Kinda like Fallkniven did on the limited edition WM1's and F1's.

country? USA is best but there are good factories that can do things cheaper and just as good if not better. (Japan) But you already know that.

Waiting for more, I keep wiping drool.



------------------
Dwight

It's a fine line between "a hobby" and "mental illness".
 
I like James Mattis idea of the dangler style sheaths: its totally functional, and NON tactical looking. Who says you can't make a thermoform sheath that dangles?
wink.gif
No TEK-LOK please - unless you can get the new SMALL style ones.

Blade style would be Loveless style DROP point, with a maximum blade length of 3.5". Std PUUKO style blade is good as well.
smile.gif


Blade materials would be VG-10, 440C, or 440A. This should make the outdoorsman happy with a bit more corrosion resistance.
smile.gif


Handle materials - well, whatever you use is OK with me.
smile.gif
I have yet to handle ANY Spyderco product that was slippery (with the exception of the SS handled folders).
wink.gif


USA made would be good for our economy
smile.gif


Cost - as low as possible: msrp of $75

Thanks for asking, Sal.



------------------
Ray 'md2020'

ATKI member #A001042
 
Bird´n´trout? There are a zillion of those out there. AG Russel makes a fine dangling bird & trout for those who like that.
My hopes are for something a little more radical, yet functional.
I also think the two Morans fill the "traditional" need pretty good. Puukkos are good workning knives but they have no carisma. Look at Fällkniven. Good knives but.... well, boring.
LumLumLumLumLumLum
-Sorry. Can´t help myself.
 

You know, Bob Lum does Puukkos to. Why not make a Bob Lum Puukko? You'd have a Finnish knife design interpreted by Bob Lum, produced by Spyderco and possibly made in japan. Talk about world wide appeal.
 
Bob Lum grew up in a Finnish community. He is quite skilled in such designs, and I have already spoken with him about such a project.


Maybe you can get him here on the forum. He does lurk occassionaly.

sal
 
As I had mentioned some time back, I would love to see a Spyderco concealed carry neck knife configured for utility as well as defensive applications. The specs I proposed in myneck knife thread are: <= 7" OAL; <= 4 oz, the lighter the better; and, not much more than 1/4" thick, including scales. (Dimensions include Concealex/Kydex sheath.)

------------------
Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
Hmmmm...Puukko by Lum...Anybody have one that they can lay on a flatbed scanner? That sounds like an idea well worth pursuing.

Perhaps the puukko and/or the go-anywhere paring knife would help with another problem. - How, in an egalitarian age when women vote, own property, drive cars, and wear shoes, can we get half the population to rediscover their identity as tool-using animals?

I've talked to a fair number of women who instinctively cringe at a folder, but who react favorably to a non-military sort of fixed blade. Perhaps a smallish paring/bird-trout/puukko sort of non-folding pocket knife would be something an independent woman would carry, so she wouldn't have to look around for a guy when there's something that needs cutting.

A variation of a print ad I've imagined before - Attractive 30-ish lady, conservatively dressed in a professional sort of environment, an elegant Spyderco-Lum Puukko (or whatever they end up producing), a freshly cut-up apple on her desk, the sheath hanging from the shoulder strap of her purse, and the caption, "Empowerment."


------------------
- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
There are two Morans. Why not make two Lums?
A puukko and a tanto. They would differ more from each other than the Morans so there ought to be a market for both. That way there would be no need to compromise.
Sal; Is this realistic?
A hunting/utility puukko and a sports/utility tanto.
Opinions..?
 
Wow, I never noticed the thing about some women and folding knives before but my wife's favorite knife is an Indian Ridge Traders Shefield Skein Dhu that I handled up for her with an antler tip handle years ago. It lived in her purse for years untill she started being a one day a week aide at school.

Last thought, a Loveless style semi-skinner, the one with the hump. Thin, short, and light with a continuous curve up to the high, dropped point. Micarta, of course!


 
There are a zillion bird-n-trout knives out there. Spyderco should NOT make another, unless they can do it better. I just used that as a size refrence. Handy, useful, not too big to scare the sheeple or carry. Fallkniven boring?? Maybe but they do what they do as good as any and better than most.

Spyderco needs to make a knife to open the market segment for them. Then they can make what knifeknuts want.
biggrin.gif


------------------
Dwight

It's a fine line between "a hobby" and "mental illness".
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top