Spyderco Fixed Blades - Opinions?

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Serg - very nice. well balanced. If my scale is correct, these are fairly small knives?

Would you be so kind as to email me on these. I'm trying to get a collection of drawings for comparison & presentation.

We are working on a Fred Perrin design that is similar to your lower drawing, but much larger (150mm blade) which he is designing for "Basic Military Function" primarily for the French military. We're currently testing handle materials. Need something tacky & indestructable (impervious to heat, cold, gasoline, Deet, etc.)

sal
 
Lets see ... How many new SKU's are we coming up with here?
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There are at least three or four in my posts alone.

The puukko and the paring knife are two different projects, though either could be "daily carry" as a non-folding pocket knife, and maybe appeal to currently "non-knife" people who have physical (i.e. arthritis) or psychological (i.e. fear of getting their knuckles bitten) difficulty with folder mechanisms. I meet people - especially women who are my age and older - who have no problem handling a nine-inch chef's knife or even a nine-inch dagger, who are afraid of a three inch folder.

I've never seen a Bob Lum puukko, but I'm betting I'd like to. Does anybody here know anybody who has one? Or does Bob Lum have a picture he could post? A puukko (or a similar knife from Norway or Sweden) is a "woodcrafty" sort of knife. Literally. It can make a sandwich or field dress a deer, but it's optimized for woodworking. You can sharpen one the usual way, for a stronger edge, but the traditional edge has no secondary bevel. That low saber grind drops straight down to the edge, and you put the whole bevel down on the stone to sharpen it, and the heck with the surface finish! The full thickness of most of the blade, sometimes combined with laminated or zone-tempered steel, makes for a very stout blade that you can lean into a bit.

The paring knife is what David Rock is describing, or that Wharncliffe described by RonS back on screen one. Thin stock, narrow, precision point, probably shorter than the puukko, something you can use to core an apple without splitting it. Peel fruit, open a package, or say "No means NO!" (God forbid).

If there's a choice to be made, A first-class paring knife with a sheath suitable for belt, pocket or purse fills an emptier niche than a puukko, since there are a lot of those available from companies in Finland, Sweden, and Norway, with one coming out in VG10 and kraton in the next few weeks.

If Spyderco goes with the paring knife, David Rock has noticed, as I have, that Moki does a very credible job making slick little fixed blades with micarta handles. I'd go with a satin finish and a flat grind or full-height hollow grind, maybe in VG10, rather than paying them to do a mirror polish. This series (again, hollow-ground in thicker stock than we'd want in the paring knife) is one they make for Beretta a middle-class price. Paring knives are typically guardless. Maybe talk to the guys at William Henry about borrowing the shape of their Lancet, stretching the handle a bit, and eliminating the pivot.

Either the puukko or the paring knife should have a handle option in something other than "basic black." Ivory micarta or something similar (or even real undyed bone) might have a "non-sinister" appearance to a lot of customers and passers-by, and there's even a specialized "new age" market that demands a white-handled utility knife. Stabilized wood (i.e. undyed maple burl)could be an extra-cost option, maybe.


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While I was writing my last post, Sergiusz was busy!
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The drawings look good to me. One minor change I'd make is to have the front ends of the micarta a simple convex curve instead of concave, and have the slabs meet the tang at an obtuse angle, to make the knife easier to clean after cutting food. This scan from a couple of years ago isn't as sharp as I'd like it to be, but I think you can see what I have in mind by way of construction.

For a wealth of fixed blade knife designs, check out the drawings at the Bob Engnath legacy page.


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I like the ones in Sergs' post but larger and flat ground

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The thorn stands to defend the Rose, yet it is peaceful and does not seek conflict
 
My vote definitely goes to the full size Wegner design. No doubt about it. The hunters in this area would scoop them up faster than you could ship 'em. The design makes for an excellent defensive blade as well. Give the option of leather or kydex when ordering. A guaranteed winner.
 
More Spyderco fixed blades, sounds good to me! There are a lot of interesting ideas in thes treath.

... Speaking of Fred Perrin. I for one wouldn't mind a Syderco version of Freds' Street Bowie! Good size and good design.

Good luck with this project!
 
Quite a busy thread! I can't bear to read through 4 pages, so I just did the first and last.

What I would love to see is a medium sized(which to me is around 3 inches, give or take a half inch) knife along the lines of the CRKT Stiff KISS, but not quite so bare. A neat multi-use sheath(neck knife, reversible clip to either clip it to something a few different ways or hang it from a belt or whatever), and a handle either like the Delica/Endura or the Pro-grip. Blade shape - hmm, try for a Dragonfly, Native or Wegner type blade. And try to keep the price low! OK, I've never liked the MSRP on anything... But from the typical discount stores I'd like to see an end price of around $50-60. I'm just not the kind of person that goes card happy with $300 knives! Although I found a great price($75) on the Police that I might go for, but I'd never spend the tpyical $120-150 that they go for.


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I think I have fallen in love. It is the top design Sergiusz posted. The size is near perfect as well.


Mike
 
Something like this is what I'd like to see.
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Or one of these:
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Just some random thoughts.

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iktomi
 
Nice designs. But haven´t we seen this a thousand times before..? Let´s hope for something radical (and useful). Let´s hope for a Lum tanto...
 
A Bob Lum Tanto - now that's an idea....

Sal - make sure you give enough carrying option so we can wear it no matter what type of cloths we happen to be wearing.



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Full Sized Wegner! Yowza!!! That would be a treat to buy.

That or.....
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<h1>The SpyderBowie!!!!</h1>
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Of course, I can see a lot of problems with marketing a Bowie Knife, legality, people freaked out by large knives, etc. But if Marion David Poff can have his Worker 2000, I want my SpyderBowie
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The chinook is basically a folding mini-bowie, so why not?
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How about a fixed blade with the Matriarch blade? That would be pretty radical!
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iktomi
 
A Spyderco "Mediterranean Bowie" that would also be the mother of all nine-inch chef's knives!
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After they do the paring knife and the puukko, that is.
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After reading Toms' post, I change my mind. The SPYDERCO MONSTER CHINOOK FIGHTING BOWIE. A pure, single purpose, no nonsense fighter. Large blade, fully sharpened clip, perfectly balanced, fast in the hand, all riding in a versatile kydex sheath. Extremely impractical for everyday use, expensive, and a poor seller for the company.

Put me down for two!
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Sal, to be serious for a moment, I would love to see a fixed blade in your new MBC series. Something that can be used for utility, but has no real weaknesses in a defensive role.

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