Spyderco is dead in Canada

Sadly it seems to be the climate for today ... but don't stop fighting ... and if you find there is anything we can do (those of us who live in the states or outside of Canada) ... let us know ...

I may write a few people here that are involved in knife rights and just ask if the have any guidance or ideas that may help ...

I know they are busy beyond believe but hoping maybe they will take a few minutes to give some thoughts.

Hang in there ... it's worth the effort and yes one voice ... one letter or phone call can make a difference ... because you may be just one voice but there may be thousands of other "one voices" out there too.

JJ
 
As a Canadian this really upsets me. I agree that those whose business is being affected should do everything in their power to fight this. Right now our best option is to sign the petition and donate to the go fund me (detailed on knife news). Unfortunatly no one has donated to the campaign in a month now. It was growing strong at first but has tapered off. Maybe if some canadian retailers started donating to this it would help. Maybe a portion of each sale. Even if it means higher prices I think it is a worthwhile endeavor. Im afraid that this crap will continue if left unchallanged and you can bet it will tricke into other areas as well. I have donated and I appreciate everyone who has contributed. Its pretty sad we need to buy our freedoms back.
 
I know we can donate from outside of Canada and some of us have ... but I didn't figure signitures from outside of Canada would count at all ... but let me "us" know if it does and I'm sure you will get more signatures ...

I used to hunt and fish in BC and Alberta some and still go fishing once in awhile if the chance comes along ...

I just hope everyone that loves or even uses knives understands and joins the fight while you still have the chance ... and stops this before it goes much farther ...

and I also hope the big manufactures get involved with all the business they would lose I would think it would be well worth while for them to be involved.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
I know we can donate from outside of Canada and some of us have ... but I didn't figure signitures from outside of Canada would count at all ... but let me "us" know if it does and I'm sure you will get more signatures ...

I used to hunt and fish in BC and Alberta some and still go fishing once in awhile if the chance comes along ...

I just hope everyone that loves or even uses knives understands and joins the fight while you still have the chance ... and stops this before it goes much farther ...

and I also hope the big manufactures get involved with all the business they would lose I would think it would be well worth while for them to be involved.
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There is a spot on the petition that says other countries. This implies you can sign from outside of canada. It does have a low number of signatures so it may not work or have additional criteria.
 
leafstorm said:
Warriors and Wonders is Canada's largest online knife retailer and undoubtedly the best source of Spyderco in Canada. This was just posted on their website;
'Important notice: Due to a recent CBSA decision, we are no longer able to import Spyderco folding knives. As individual items sell out, they will be removed from our web site.'

This is a very sad day for Spydie nuts such as myself. I know there have been various rumblings of the CBSA reaching in it's description of gravity knives and petitions countering their constant sliding definition. What are your thoughts? Is Canada destined to go the way of the UK regarding knife law? Spyderco is literally the only brand I care about and for some reason the only one being targeted at the moment.
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Yeah and that attitude worked really well here in the States with alcohol prohibition.
Oh . . . wait . . .
 
I feel sorry for Canadians, to a point. Vote Left, get socialism. Socialism is about absolute control. Once instituted the only thing that usually stops it is massive loss of life. Like metric tons of bullets. It's like being ruled over, like a monarchy. We had that here in the states once.

These dirty commie scumbags figured out that an incremental loss of freedom doesn't alarm the sheep, and they'll just keep chipping away until they have it all.

The thing that scares me most is how many are willing to go down the merry path. These morons actually march and vote to have their own rights taken away? I hope I'm dead before we get to the utter retardation that is the UK. If not, I'm sure someone will come along (who knows, this post might have been the tipping point) in the future and put my "seditious" butt down.

People I know used to wonder why we couldn't be more like Canada or the UK. Now those same people are terrified the USA will turn into them. How dangerous is a 3" folding knife? I don't know friend, it might be time to march on those capitol cities? But Canadians won't, just like very few American citizens.

Welcome to the first circle of hell my northern friend, it will only get worse from here. Because of the brainwashing of our children here, I fear we'll be along shortly:(
 
The ban sounds awfully drastic if not draconian.
Strangely, as an example; The PRC is easily the world's largest export orientated knife producer with every imaginable knife type made there; however, it's citizens do not have access to these export only products as they are also govern by some stringent knife carry laws.
I suppose the situation for knife carry becomes acutely scrutinised by powers that be when there are instances of knives incidents due to unrest and the likes.
Guess its really up to Canadians to build up their own domestic knife industry
and hopefully any success story that is good for the economy, would eventually gain some government support.
It's just too bad for spyderco for the short term.
The future is however, pretty bright for a good brands.
 
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colin.p said:
I suspect that the socialists will go after all knife manufacturers in due time and ban all OHO knives. As regard to the U.K. laws, the old proverb about apples and apple trees seems rather appropo I should think.

I better go and get another CC so I can run the tab up on that one, buying all the knives I want now before we all get classified as terrorists.
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Socialism has nothing to do with tool or weapon classifications or permits regarding the use of such. It's a form and theory approach to government, economics and society - I would bet my knife collection that an overwhelming amount of people that personally classify themselves as socialists in Canada care very little about knives. If you have proof otherwise, I'm always willing to learn.

It's sad and disturbing that so many enthusiasts of firearms and tools think any attempt to modernize laws regarding our use of them is somehow an attack on rights or economics.

The increasingly poor choices on restrictions are due to knife laws being easy targets to slap onto a resume and have a news story where you can say "we're cutting back on crime by taking dangerous weapons out of the hands of criminals!" Restricting knife choice doesn't impact most workers and us enthusiasts that it really affects aren't nearly high enough in number to fight the changes. It's an easy win for any politicians. Please don't jump the gun with easy labels designed to make others angry without having to think about the why. ANYONE can look at a stabbing, see bad headlines and think "it's too damn easy to order a knife online and wait around to stab people! Those knife guys are going to go after all of us in due time and stab everyone. I better pass new rulings before they get to me."
 
I posted in this sub-forum because it is the best place to reach Spyderco fans. Please don't let this devolve into arguments about economic systems and how everything but pure unfettered free market capitalism is evil. Those are worthy debates but here is not the place. The laws in Canada have not changed but the CBSA (Canada's border services) have a shitty definition of what constitutes a gravity knife (ie. opens with centrifugal force) which are illegal in Canada and thus are turning back knives that otherwise a police officer or judge wouldn't bat an eye at. Hopefully Sal and enough Canadians see this and we can make enough noise to slap this overreach down where it belongs.
 
Being a Canadian and a knife enthusiast, I was really upset when I found out. I will still buy my fixed blades from south of the border but folders will have to be sourced locally.
 
Stang Bladeworks said:
There is a spot on the petition that says other countries. This implies you can sign from outside of canada. It does have a low number of signatures so it may not work or have additional criteria.
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Link please!
I’ll check it out and sign if possible. (Already did the GoFundMe thing.)

Next year I’ll be living a stone’s throw south of Alberta. Still a Yank, but almost family.

It’s worth the fight guys. Hang in there.
 
It’s crazy. A small folder can be illegal to import but I am legally allowed to use and carry knives like these....

Out in public in suberbia chopping down a tree with an ESEE 6..,,
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Or my Kershaw machete.... 18” blade/24” OAL....
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I’m very glad that I bought about 20 Spyderco/Byrd knives last year though.
 
Heart.....broken :( As mentioned previously, still no problem getting machetes, fixed blades, tomahawks and axes. It's those handy, little folders that are the real problem! o_O Guess we better grab them while we can. I suppose if there's a bright side, it's that we have a good reason to buy a few more Spydies....immediately!
 
If the CBSA found a knife like what they are disallowing through shipment being carried by a Canadian citizen's person returning to Canada could they confiscate it if it is not actually against any Canadian law? This is a real pickle! Sorry guys! :(
 
I went out and bought an Estwing Sportsman axe today from the big Depot store as I figured that my Native 5 serrated would take a couple of days to chop down they 6” tree pictured above that I had to remove from my front yard.

Of course, I can legally buy, carry and import this 2lb tool of mass destruction, but my 2.95” Native 5? Likely can’t get it into Canada.

A bit silly in any case.

The Estwing is an amazing axe for the $$$ BTW. Good steel and nice stacked leather handle. :thumbsup:
 
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