Spyderco is dead in Canada

Duper said:
When I returned home from Pennsylvania to Canada last August after a long weekend the CBSA agent asked if I had anything to declare and if so the value? I said I had bought two pocket knives worth approx. $150 CAD. The border guard specifically asked me if either knife could open with one hand or a flick? I explained they were simple traditional knives and he smiled and said have a nice day.

I would not lie to a border agent as they have more power then we can imagine and I don't want my name in some bad book where I face scrutiny at my every entrance and exit of the country. I am also not a fan of latex. :eek::oops::poop:

That said anything beyond a small traditional knife stays home when I travel across any border.

,,,Mike in Canada
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I wonder how the border guard would have responded if your answer to his question.was:

'Neither knives need opening with one hand or a flick because they are fixed blade pocket knives'

This whole scenario is ridiculous.
 
SharpieB said:
I went out and bought an Estwing Sportsman axe today from the big Depot store as I figured that my Native 5 serrated would take a couple of days to chop down they 6” tree pictured above that I had to remove from my front yard.

Of course, I can legally buy, carry and import this 2lb tool of mass destruction, but my 2.95” Native 5? Likely can’t get it into Canada.

A bit silly in any case.

The Estwing is an amazing axe for the $$$ BTW. Good steel and nice stacked leather handle. :thumbsup:
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what's next...scissors :rolleyes: o_O Running with them is potentially dangerous!
 
Sal, this is a very orwellian issue, the customs in canada are making up the law in all impunity.....they are goverment licensed criminals......
The solution would be to list your products under another descriptive category.....to the administration of Canadian customs, all knives that open one hand is criminal.......they are the criminals ffs......
Let us not submit to totalitarian civil officers who overreach their autority without dû cause.....we need to strike fast and hard!
 
The most ridiculous part of this is history repeating. The Canadian criminal code specifically mentions fully automatic opening knives, but the CBSA keeps trying to re-define the law. The way they are acting, I expect they will ban fixed blades soon, since, they can be 'opened' with 1 hand also... That is the level of logic they are using already, just a bit more of an egregious example.

The gov't needs to fire all the senior bureaucrats at the CBSA that approved/started this nonsense.

Don't feel so smug, in the USA, it's still illegal to own/carry/make automatic aka switchblades...
Read this nonsense at the end, which shows almost all countries of the world have managed to ban them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade
 
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Seems really hit and miss right now. I didn't ship a knife to me in Canada but a few weeks ago I crossed in to the US to pick up some tractor parts. I completely forgot I had my Manix clipped in my pants pocket. When I crossed back in to Canada I had to go in to the CBSA office to pay taxes and then the officer outside wanted to look at the parts I bought in the box of my pickup. He noticed the Spyderco in my pocket and commented that he had a couple of them too. He couldn't have cared less that I was carrying it. Mine is a well used work knife and it looks like it. Certainly doesn't look new but my point is he didn't have any issue that I had just drove across in to Canada with it .
 
It would be nice to have them all be reasonable. There are some nice ones and unfortunately some jerks as well.
 
colin.p said:
It would be nice to have them all be reasonable. There are some nice ones and unfortunately some jerks as well.
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Unfortunatly, that is not the case at all, it is the administrative policy......so a good human, will turn an eye, but a good employee, will do as he's told.....

We must keep this tread alive till we get some good news, we can't abide civil administrators making the policies outside the reach of the law, this makes CANADIAN CUSTOMS a rogue agency.....
 
I know that everyone thinks it's just the CBSA and CITT that made the ruling, but (and here is the conspiracy theorist in me, and who doesn't love a good conspiracy theory) this ruling comes from farther up the chain, maybe all the way to the top (Hi Trudeau). I envision that some snowflake MP, probably with a hyphenated last name, that got a little chill over knives and decided all on her (or maybe a him) own and told the border clowns to stop knives from coming into the country, with the eventual intention of outlawing all "carry knives". Dry up new knives from coming in at the border, then start kicking down the doors to confiscate what's already here.

I honestly believe that our politicians' agenda is to join with the Britts' and adopt their draconian laws. But then again, it all may fade away and we will be able to buy Spyderco's at a decent price again.
 
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colin.p said:
I know that everyone thinks it's just the CBSA and CITT that made the ruling, but (and here is the conspiracy theorist in me, and who doesn't love a good conspiracy theory) this ruling comes from farther up the chain, maybe all the way to the top (Hi Trudeau). I envision that some snowflake MP, probably with a hyphenated last name, that got a little chill over knives and decided all on her (or maybe a him) own and told the border clowns to stop knives from coming into the country, with the eventual intention of outlawing all "carry knives". Dry up new knives from coming in at the border, then start kicking down the doors to confiscate what's already here.

I honestly believe that our politicians' agenda is to join with the Britts' and adopt their draconian laws. But then again, it all may fade away and we will be able to buy Spyderco's at a decent price again.
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My answer to this entire post is simply this: No.

As long as there are still guns in the country, no politician really cares about knives.
And they haven't even taken the guns away!
Even when they are "prohibited," the guns are not taken away.

The CBSA also tends to seize sap gloves, even though they are legal to own in Canada.
They argue that they are "Functionally similar" to brass knuckles.
Found that out before ordering any from outside the country...too bad, because there are some really nice Kevlar-lined sap gloves out there. :(

I could order them, and they might get to me, but they very well might be seized.
 
dirc said:
The most ridiculous part of this is history repeating. The Canadian criminal code specifically mentions fully automatic opening knives, but the CBSA keeps trying to re-define the law. The way they are acting, I expect they will ban fixed blades soon, since, they can be 'opened' with 1 hand also... That is the level of logic they are using already, just a bit more of an egregious example.

The gov't needs to fire all the senior bureaucrats at the CBSA that approved/started this nonsense.

Don't feel so smug, in the USA, it's still illegal to own/carry/make automatic aka switchblades...
Read this nonsense at the end, which shows almost all countries of the world have managed to ban them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade
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not true. I can carry openly and concealed auto/switchblades, balis, fixed blades of any length, double sided daggers, bowies, gravity, everything but a ballistic knife...... on state property and private property where I am. it even says that in the wiki page you linked.

Miami has their own ordinances and a few other bigger cities do but I dont go there much. in my normal travels, I can carry and use whatever I want.
 
jbmonkey said:
not true. I can carry openly and concealed auto/switchblades, balis, fixed blades of any length, double sided daggers, bowies, gravity, everything but a ballistic knife...... on state property and private property where I am. it even says that in the wiki page you linked.

Miami has their own ordinances and a few other bigger cities do but I dont go there much. in my normal travels, I can carry and use whatever I want.
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D dirc

The wiki link references an act of Congress, though it is obviously explained poorly in the article since we all know that people and manufacturers buy and sell autos in the states (similarly, it references an act that says you can't ship autos via USPS, anyone attest to that?). I will also note that my state recently legalized the carrying of autos so if anything the Congressional act can be superceded by state laws.
 
lieferung said:
D dirc

The wiki link references an act of Congress, though it is obviously explained poorly in the article since we all know that people and manufacturers buy and sell autos in the states (similarly, it references an act that says you can't ship autos via USPS, anyone attest to that?). I will also note that my state recently legalized the carrying of autos so if anything the Congressional act can be superceded by state laws.
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state sets the laws on their lands within reason.....feds set laws on federal owned lands in this case. we are a union of 50 states or countries in a way under a federal union. states have rights and one is to make their own laws if not against the constitution and bill of rights.....or found as such via the court system.
 
I'm sure I'll regret posting this, but I have had zero problems this far importing spyderco lock backs into Canada.
I won't even try importing a flipper or something like a compression lock. Funny that Amazon.ca has them tho.
I'd think, based on the ruling and my own experiences, that it's less one handlers and more flickers that CBSA is trying to prevent from getting in. Still an issue, to be sure, but one worth clarifying.
 
I had a couple pm2s shipped from the states this spring, bladehq and knifecenter exclusives, with out hassle. Apparently if your shipment if red flagged there is an appeal process or worst case scenario you can provide a us address as an alternate shipping location. Not that I would recommend opening a post box and trying to bring it over directly after lol.
 
Since this thread is still going.

Can a dissasembled knife pass customs.
Knife kit?

Or having the pivot tighten up?
 
uxo2 said:
Since this thread is still going.

Can a dissasembled knife pass customs.
Knife kit?

Or having the pivot tighten up?
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It really seems to be on a case by case basis. Benchmade ships their knives to Canada with the pivot screw tightened way down so the knives can't be flicked open or closed. Around when this first started early this year, I sent my 940 and Bugout to Benchmade to have the Omega Springs replaced and they made it back to me with no problems and with tight pivots. I'm currently still waiting for my Valet to make it back to me from them after having its Omega Springs replaced. According to the Canada Post app, it's been with customs for a month now undergoing further inspection...so take that for what it's worth.
 
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Knifeoholic said:
^^^ Sure hope ya get it, man! That's what my tracking said before they took my Military...:(
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Thanks for the well wishes, and I'm sorry to hear about your military. I'm cautiously optimistic about it getting through, but you just never know these days. What really bugs me is this (taken straight from the Canada Post website):

"Q: What can I do if the parcel I am expecting is in customs?

A:
[...]4. [...]
Please note:

  • Once a parcel is with CBSA, we cannot intervene or inquire about the status of the parcel.
  • Times for packages to clear customs vary. Delays can occur due to the package itself, its documentation or volumes at customs."
So basically what I get from that is that my knife which was being returned to me after undergoing warranty work, which is to say, I had already legally purchased it up here; is sitting in a bureaucratic black hole from which it may or may not be returned to me after a couple months - if I'm lucky. Again, hopefully I'm not out $200+.
 
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