Spyderco vs. Sebbie...value?

I don't own any spydercos but I do own a couple of the better benchmades and I still would buy 1 sebenza compared to two equivalent benchmades.
 
The seb is sooo much > than the 2 spydies.

It really is a whole different level.
 
Being a Huge CRK Fan, I would say get the Sebenza. I have had spyderco's and had one I carried for years until my ex wife threw it away just to spite me. It was a small pro-grip made in the early 90's. Awsome little knife. I would always go with quality. I used to have a ton of lesser knives ( lesser than CRK ) and once I experienced CRK quality, I have since sold nearly all of them to buy more CRK. I just wish I had heard of CRK when I was out of high shcool in the early 90's, I can only imagine the collection I would have now. They are worth the money spent on them. Yes, others have a frame lock, but none are as good as CRK, not even strider. The sebenza has that awsome smoothness that few can match. I would rate spyderco as a high quality knife, but the sebenza is in another level altogether. Get the sebbie, everyone should be able to own a grail at least once !
 
If you regularly have this sort of money to spend on knives, buy the Spydies. Two toys instead of one and discontinuation is indeed always a risk with some Spydercos.
However, if this is a rare occasion and you are not likely to spend 300+ bucks on knives in the foreseeable future, buy the Sebbie. If you don't, you'll surely regret it later.
 
I'd say go with the spydercos. I every day carried a sebenza for seven years, until the sage II came out. Sebenza is gone. IMHO the sage has a better blade geometry, more comfortable handle and the hole beats a thumbstud. Yes the fit and finish are a little better on the benza, but not enough to matter to me. I don't know if I'm imagining it, but the spyderco seems to hold an edge better too. (might be due to the flat ground blade in the spyderco versus the concave grind on the sebbie. I cut alot of cardboard at work.) In the end get the one you want the most.

Later GDWTVB
 
If you are here on this forum, you are more than likely a knife "afi".

If you are a knife "afi", then you will purchase more than one knife in your life-time.

There are a few knife manufactuers that consistently produce knives for us knife "afi's" to enjoy. Chris Reeve is one of them.

Sooner of later, you will want to try at least one of Chris Reeve's models. If nothing else, to learn to see what CRK offers.

Chris is in a class by himself for a reason. Afer all of these years, they couldn't get away with just hype.

In addition to creating the Reeve Integral Lock (RIL), sometimes called a "framelock", CRK has a very high standard for close tolerance. Most of you probably cannot see or measure the tolerance difference, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.

sal
 
sal has always been gracious enough to point how superlative CRK knives are. :thumbup:

indeed Chris Reeve not only invented the framelock but he collaborated in the development of CPM S30V steel

however, we also should not forget that Spyderco invented the pocket clip and the Spydie hole.

so, you could argue that the Sage 2 showcases 4 of the most important folding knife innovations of all time.

basically the knife world owes both spyderco and CRK a huge debt.
 
I hesitate to say this after Sal's post, but it bears remembering that you can buy a Sage 2 for $140. The SmallSeb will run you $330. That's nearly 2.5x more. The materials are the same, although Sal says the tolerances may be narrower on the Seb. The Seb is at least for me a very definitely non-ambi knife. The Sage 2 works for me either way. There is no risk that you'd confuse the two if you picked them up in the dark, but the Sebs illustrate, I think, the law of diminishing returns.
 
H0B0J0 said:
The seb is sooo much > than the 2 spydies.

It really is a whole different level.
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Care to elaborate? With the same blade steel and locking mech. on the sage, I'm curious as to how they can be on that much of a different level.
 
For the cost of Sebenza, you could have a custom.
 
JNewell said:
I hesitate to say this after Sal's post, but it bears remembering that you can buy a Sage 2 for $140. The SmallSeb will run you $330. That's nearly 2.5x more.
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ElectricZombie said:
For the cost of Sebenza, you could have a custom.
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I've scored used Sebs on the exchange in perfectly good working condition for considerably less than the $330 you're proposing. If the OP keeps an eye out on the exchange, I'm sure he could do the same.

I've owned a few Spydercos as well as a few CRKs and both are of high quality. If you want what is undeniably the best in the business, go with the Seb. Otherwise, go with the two Spydies which is still a great choice. Let's not take anything away from Spyderco of CRK here...they both offer outstanding products :thumbup:
 
Jake Bauer said:
Care to elaborate? With the same blade steel and locking mech. on the sage, I'm curious as to how they can be on that much of a different level.
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Sal himself said it!:thumbup::)


Chris is in a class by himself for a reason. Afer all of these years, they couldn't get away with just hype.
In addition to creating the Reeve Integral Lock (RIL), sometimes called a "framelock", CRK has a very high standard for close tolerance. Most of you probably cannot see or measure the tolerance difference, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
sal
 
By now you've heard every argument twice. You've heard Sal compliment the Seb. I'm sure you're coming to a decision (fun post by the way, anything Sebenza always gets the blood flowing). Take the following with a grain of salt:

I don't think I could be considered an afi. I own several knives over the 100$ mark, and even one or two over the 200$ mark. My "collection" is all users, not a queen among them. But I just can't grasp that fine line that Sal mentioned. Yeah, I know it's there, I know others see it, I just personally can't.

I've handled the Sebenza several times as I've been almost ready to pull the trigger on one. I've still yet to get one. I guess it's because I miss seeing the line, that line that determines if you're an afi. I can see the quality in a Spyderco and a Benchmade, and I feel the price is worth it. I can see it even more in knives like the OD-1.

Anyways, that's all personal. I'm just trying to say, it's got to be your choice, not that of those on the internet (even Sal himself!). Please, please handle the knife before you buy, it may make the difference either way you choose.
 
shunsui said:
I'd say buy the Sage2, skip the Leafstorm, and buy the Large Sebenza.
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Now there's the best plan I've heard yet:thumbup:

My pics in prior thread show how much of a better grip you can get with the Sage that a small sebbie. I now carry the Sage over the small sebbie when I carry a 3" blade, which is most days. I do have hands on the large side though.

But for a folder with a +3" blade the large sebbie has the best handle I have ever held(the Sage with its choil a close second), and is my most favorite folder made.
 
safetyman said:
I've scored used Sebs on the exchange in perfectly good working condition for considerably less than the $330 you're proposing. If the OP keeps an eye out on the exchange, I'm sure he could do the same.

I've owned a few Spydercos as well as a few CRKs and both are of high quality. If you want what is undeniably the best in the business, go with the Seb. Otherwise, go with the two Spydies which is still a great choice. Let's not take anything away from Spyderco of CRK here...they both offer outstanding products :thumbup:
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Sure, but if you want to compare prices, a used Sage 2 will be a lot less than $140. As I said, no one's going to confuse a Sage 2 with a SmallSeb, but the Sage 2 has a lot going for it, and if you want an knife that works in both hands, the Seb may be a bad choice.
 
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