Spyderco vs. Sebbie...value?

Same conundrum. I've been shopping for a new pocket knife. Decided the 710 and manix weren't for me after a few years:o. At first deciding between emerson cqc-15 and BM Rift. Then I remembered my sebenza. I only sold it because I felt it was too much money to be carrying around for an EDC. Then while searching for the best price on a sebenza I found out about the Sage 2.

I'd be posting about my latest online purchase of a sage 2. But the made in taiwan is giving me pause. My guns and knives have always been made in the u.s. I can't help but feel like I'm crossing some kind of line. Not that I think the workmanship is inferior. Just get a warm fuzzy feeling if my money stays "in house"

disclaimer bourbon induced posting.
 
Good point Chickenfried. Does made in Taiwan matter to the rest of you? Also, I already have a Sage with CF handles. It is lighter than the Ti version. Lighter appeals to me. The Sebbie is lighter and narrower than the Sage. For EDC.....and I wear a suit everyday.....don't you think those are important factors? I'm leaning towards the Sebbie.
 
Heh, any whiskey drinker is a friend of mine. ;)

I wouldn't worry a bit about the quality of a Taiwan Spydie, as they are top drawer. In fact, some of the manufacturing is superior to some of my US Spydercos. As for the 'ethics' of overseas products, well, I too like an American product.
 
You might want to compare cutting performance too. The Spyderco Sage has a slightly thinner blade and a FFG, which should make cutting a bit easier.

Of course, you really should try to handle both. Ergos are a very personal thing.
 
I'd buy the Leafstorm, and then go have a great night with the rest of the cash.:thumbup:
If I were buying a Seb, I'd go full sized.
 
Sal Glesser said:
If you are here on this forum, you are more than likely a knife "afi".

If you are a knife "afi", then you will purchase more than one knife in your life-time.

There are a few knife manufactuers that consistently produce knives for us knife "afi's" to enjoy. Chris Reeve is one of them.

Sooner of later, you will want to try at least one of Chris Reeve's models. If nothing else, to learn to see what CRK offers.

Chris is in a class by himself for a reason. Afer all of these years, they couldn't get away with just hype.

In addition to creating the Reeve Integral Lock (RIL), sometimes called a "framelock", CRK has a very high standard for close tolerance. Most of you probably cannot see or measure the tolerance difference, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.

sal
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I just read this. Man, what a class act. Thanks Sal.

I've been having trouble getting my head around the whole Spyder-hole design in general, but I'm going to have to give this man some business (other than my Sharpmaker). BTW - I have 3 CRK's, a few BM's and other random blades. No Spyderco's due to my style preferences, but this level of professional courtesy is impressive. Wow.

Only one correction to note: Change "afi" to "nutcase" and it's perfect.
 
I get sick of listening to Sal...

everytime the man opens his mouth, I gain more respect and a sudden urge to buy yet another spyderco...

I got a sharpmaker for Christmas 2008...

Then an Endura 4 (vg-10), a pink delica (vg-10) for the wife... a pink delica for a co-worker (she needed an edge tool, group buy from co-workers), a couple of byrd meadowlarks... umm, two Spyderco Endura zdp-189 serrated knives (backup for the cars, don't you know). Oh, and a tenacious. A co-worker liked my knife so much, he ended up getting a para-military. Former co-worker had to have a Tenacious (sweet little EDC knife)

I don't doubt what Sal said about Chris Reeve and his knives... I'll take his word for it. But I don't have to on his knives, great knives for the money.
 
I've got no problem with the whole made in taiwan thing. At least I try not to. The quality is definitely top notch, I've had a few taiwan spydies.
But I have never liked seeing that name on there. I guess my mind has a little prejudice in there. Made in Taiwan just always meant junk when I was a kid, it was synonymous

I did buy a sage 1 sage 2 and a terzuola. :D
 
What's your definition of value? Unless you're a discriminating knife Afi you might not see the value of the Seb. You get more knife for your money if you buy a sage but it isn't as refined as a seb. They both have their advantages. I like the seb and I'm also thinking of trying out the sage too.

Seb.
Consistant outstanding f&f super tight tolerances
very tough knife
ease of maintenance due to construction and tool
pivot bushingno locktite or pivot adjustment required
refurb service
very pocket friendly(small seb all I own)
best customer service I have experienced yet

Sage
cheaper
same materials
good ergos
great heat treat if it's like other spyderco s30v
might be more that I'm missing I don't own one yet
 
I forgot one more for Sage

wire pocket clip that rides low which I prefer

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Sage
probably tough also
Spyderco leaf full flat grind so it's probably a oustanding slicer
Supposed to have very good f&f
good customer service
last but not least the owner Sal is here a lot and he's a great guy
 
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Two things seem to remain a constant in the 'knife world', Sal is, has been, and will always remain a 'class act', and money spent on a Spyderco or a CR is never wasted.

I don't really see a comparison between Spyderco and CR where value is concerned. When looked at from all angles, both companies stand behind their products and both companies products represent an excellent value for the dollar. Which watch has the greatest 'value', a Tag or a Rolex? They both do their jobs exceptionally well and both have an excellent value for the dollar as well.
 
Which one is the best value?

Well either Spyderco is the best value for the buck. They are a quality product backed by a quality company. For 1/2 the price of a new Small Sebbie you can get a knife that will do serve you well for a very long time. However, if you are going to spend the ~$330 and not save any of it... Pick up the Sebenza. If you do not like it, you can sale it for roughly the same price. The second hand market for used Spydercos is not nearly as strong as the market for CRK. Just my $0.02.
 
C Ben Susrool said:
In my personal experience it is possible to get a "custom" that is in actuality a bad knife. The odds of money misspent are greatly reduced with a knife from CRK
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+1:thumbup:

I know that this was not the OP's question, but going the custom route, in my experience, always introduces a higher probability of flaws when compared to CRK or Spyderco knives (I'm sure I'll get flamed for this! :eek:). It's more of a crap shoot, certainly in the <300 price range.

Now between the CRK versus the Spydercos, I'd go for the CRK. As was already mentioned, you can resell it for what you paid for it, particularly if you buy a lightly used one off BF. If you decide to keep it, you can always have CRK refurbish it for a nominal fee. If it doesn't trip your trigger, sell it and go buy the Spydies.

- Mark
 
Well, I have read...and pondered....and tossed and turned. A small Seb is now in route to my house. Thanks all, for the great advice.
 
dan oliver said:
Well, I have read...and pondered....and tossed and turned. A small Seb is now in route to my house. Thanks all, for the great advice.
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Congrats on taking the plunge and ordering a great knife. I hope you are as happy with it as I am with all my Sebenzas.
 
There was no bad choice here, as said above. You'll be very happy, I am quite confident. And you may be back for more! :D
 
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