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First of shame on you salmonkiller for making that pun...lol

I think there's three sides to the subject of U.S.A made knives:

)I will only buy a Knife made in the USA because it helps support company's in the USA.

)I only buy USA made knives because there higher quality than made in china/Taiwan...ect knives.

)then there's me: I like buying US made knives, but don't mind buying a knife thats made in china/Taiwan..ect

In my personal opinion as long as a company has good quality control I'll buy from them even if there not made in the USA
And IMO the company's that realy get it right are kershaw and spyderco.

On top of that keshaw and spyderco have some of the best customer service out there.
 
^^ I need one lol.

Sooo, no one here has experience with the USA made Baliyo pens?
Like I said(I'm a pen nut too), I would love to have a pen in my two favorite colors and something I can flip other than my balisong. I think it'd be a fun and functional piece to carry with me. I really like the pen but I don't know how it holds up.
I know the Chinese versions don't hold up well, and I don't really want grey or black anyways, I already have two black pens.

Would love some feedback on it.

I don't need a new pen(My Hinderer Investigator is great and my Fisher Bullet is too), but would like to have one lol.

Oaky, I'm a little behind in my reading. I've got a couple of red, white and blue Baliyos from when they first came out. One is still in the package. It uses a short Space Pen refill, so it doesn't carry a lot of ink, which is too bad since the threads stripped on my user when I screwed it back together after checking the cartridge. It isn't very comfortable to write with for me, and it is short enough to be too fast for my old reflexes to cope with when flipping, so it's more of a fling toy for me.
 
Just going to put this out, I know the Taiwan plant has the best quality folders.

But I refuse to willingly purchase from an outsourcer manufacturing plant!

Move Sage production to Golden, ????, Profit!

Are you aware that Spyderco started with production contracted out? That for the first ten years they didn't even have a production facility in the US? That if it wasn't for "outsourcing" there wouldn't even be a Spyderco, much less a Golden, CO USA Earth stamp to look for? Or that the Golden plant simply doesn't have the production capacity to keep up with the current demand, much less adding new models? These are the things I have to ask every time I see a post like this.
 
First of shame on you salmonkiller for making that pun...lol

I think there's three sides to the subject of U.S.A made knives:

)I will only buy a Knife made in the USA because it helps support company's in the USA.

)I only buy USA made knives because there higher quality than made in china/Taiwan...ect knives.

)then there's me: I like buying US made knives, but don't mind buying a knife thats made in china/Taiwan..ect

In my personal opinion as long as a company has good quality control I'll buy from them even if there not made in the USA
And IMO the company's that realy get it right are kershaw and spyderco.

On top of that keshaw and spyderco have some of the best customer service out there.

I don't feel any shame quite the opposite.I think that everyone has the right to make their own decisions , choices and have individual preferences.There is no right or wrong epinion. I don't think that it is prudent for any person to speak on this matter claiming to represent any one else but them self.I have aquired and have been gifted many knives over the years and I know what I prefer.I am not trying to make this a lightning strike issue or take a shot across anybody's bow.I am happy with myself and my decisions and that's all that matters to me personally.You really can't say you don't like something until you give it a try.Flexibility is the key to happiness is what I have learned from my experiences.
 
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When I talk about flexibility, I am not talking about being weak or passive, just open to adapting in a way that will serve you and your life. Just as keeping our bodies flexible is important to our health and well-being, keeping our minds flexible is essential to our mental health and well-being. By making conscious choices, being clear about our intentions, living our passion and being open to the change needed for a perfect outcome at the right time and place, we are expanding, never contracting. Have the courage to become a living example of flexibility and others will follow. Remember a bend in the road is not the end of the road unless you refuse to take the turn.

Peace out....
Salmonkiller
 
I have Spydercos from Golden, Taichung, China, and Seki. I don't much care where knives are made as long as they're worth it.
 
What are your next Spydercos up for acquisition?

  • Super Leaf
  • Calypso
  • Para 2 M390 Sprint Run
  • Sage 1
  • Left Handed Military
  • Native 5

These are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head.
 
Native 5 110V sprint where is it up for pre-order got my card right here... Considering the Domino also, but still waiting for information to surface.
 
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The Domino is incredible. Hate the weave pattern on the scale, love everything else.

I just placed and order for a Superleaf. I cannot believe the price you can get on these, right now.

What I really want is a Yojimbo 2, but those still aren't readily available, and I don't want to overpay on Ebay.
 
I think there's three sides to the subject of U.S.A made knives:

)I will only buy a Knife made in the USA because it helps support company's in the USA.

)I only buy USA made knives because there higher quality than made in china/Taiwan...ect knives.

)then there's me: I like buying US made knives, but don't mind buying a knife thats made in china/Taiwan..ect


What you should have said is "For an American, there's three sides..." ;-)

As a non-American, I would also contest your #2. In my experience, the Spyderco knives from Taichung Taiwan have been every bit as good, if not better than the Golden CO knives. IMO, the major downside to the Taichung knives is the cost; they tend to cost more than other Spyderco knives, probably due to the excellent quality control, and the fact that Spyderco ships some materials there, and then ships the finished knives back.
 
I agree 100 percent the list I made was just some opinions that I'v seen from people, I agree that some knives that are made in china/Taiwan...ect are on par with American made knives.

The thing I find ironic is Japan for a long time has made some of the finest cutlery in the world
And now some people will not buy a knife made there.
 
When I see the price points for example the Manix 2 Xl versus the Superleaf it kind of makes me scratch my head and wonder what is really going on.I understand they are not the same knife. I just cant seem to put to be able to put my head around the reasoning that if a product is produced domestically and not overseas then the masses won't be able to afford what they desire.This is why I have chosen so far to stay away from the Taiwan produced models.I'm not saying that the Taiwan models are not great knifes, but I just can't seem to grasp the price point and how it ties into a great value for me personally.We all can chose whatever knife from where ever are heart desires.To me I am not 100% sold.I am very aware the you all like the lines that you have chosen and I am very grateful that Spyderco offers us wonderful choices of knives regardless of Country of Origin....
The observation that I do see it that Spyderco can't keep up with the demand for a good portion of the Golden produced knives and I think that speaks for it's self.....
 
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Howdy Yall! There a Chokwe right now on the Xchange for a great price... Get on it!
 
Yup a very grate price........sigh.........cryinnnnnnggggggggg... TOTAL SADNESS..
 
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