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Inron, the company supposedly set up by former Enlan employees has come out with a new model, the TMF36. Seems to be a ripoff of the XM-18, although not a completely blatant copy it does steal nearly all design elements except for the nicer ones like a movable clip, the lockbar washer/stabilizier, and the spanto blade style. Blade steel is 9Cr13MoV and I'm sure that the frame is not Ti. It's selling for about $22 shipped to the USA:

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drbobguy said:
Inron, the company supposedly set up by former Enlan employees has come out with a new model, the TMF36. Seems to be a ripoff of the XM-18, although not a completely blatant copy it does steal nearly all design elements except for the nicer ones like a movable clip, the lockbar washer/stabilizier, and the spanto blade style. [/IMG]
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This one isn't a spanto as much as a drop point. Spantos have a grind change in the center of the belly which reinforces the tip, this is just a regular drop point.
 
Yes that's what I said, it steals the overall XM-18 EXCEPT FOR the spanto blade, the lockbar washer/stop, and the movable clip.
 
drbobguy said:
Inron, the company supposedly set up by former Enlan employees has come out with a new model, the TMF36. Seems to be a ripoff of the XM-18, although not a completely blatant copy it does steal nearly all design elements except for the nicer ones like a movable clip, the lockbar washer/stabilizier, and the spanto blade style. Blade steel is 9Cr13MoV and I'm sure that the frame is not Ti. It's selling for about $22 shipped to the USA:

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I don't see that knife anywhere on the web besides your post.

Correction: Found it on some chinese website (not directly through search engines like google & yahoo). Other pics make me think that the frame lock side (steel) is too thin.
 
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I don't see that knife anywhere on the web besides your post.

Correction: Found it on some chinese website (not directly through search engines like google & yahoo). Other pics make me think that the frame lock side (steel) is too thin.
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Yes I think you're exactly right, it's not one I'm going to be buying because in the first place it's too much of a copy unlike say the EL-01 which has a clear design inspiration from the XM line, but doesn't just copy them outright. I did order the EL-08 and I'll post a review when it comes. On this Inron the clip and whole construction seems rather shoddy. With a SS frame the only way to keep the weight down is build it as if the frame were a liner (that is really thin) unlike Ti where you can still have a thick frame and keep a mid-size knife under 6oz. So here you can clearly see the problem:

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Yes I think you're exactly right, it's not one I'm going to be buying because in the first place it's too much of a copy unlike say the EL-01 which has a clear design inspiration from the XM line, but doesn't just copy them outright. I did order the EL-08 and I'll post a review when it comes. On this Inron the clip and whole construction seems rather shoddy. With a SS frame the only way to keep the weight down is build it as if the frame were a liner (that is really thin) unlike Ti where you can still have a thick frame and keep a mid-size knife under 6oz.
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Yep, I tried to post that pic without sucess, but that framelock side looks actually thinner than the blade itself. Worries me a bit. Also, the Inron above is definitely a Hinderer knock off. There's no spin around that one.

I also looked at the Enlan EL-08 which I saw on the bay for about $35 (w/shipping). It looks very solid, but 6.5oz is just crazy for a folding knife. I'll definitely be reading your review. Why couldn't ENLAN use aluminum? It's cheaper and lighter than steel (and not as strong as titanium).
 
Yeah I agree this new Inron does not look as good as any of the Enlans. For medium-sized knives Enlan are the best ones being made in China IMHO.

The El-08 can be had cheaper, for about $24 shipped to the US. Yeah 6.5oz is pretty crazy, but it's not that much different than an XM-18 or Strider SMF which come in at about 6oz I believe (or just under). But I agree, they should spend an extra $5 and make that side out of titanium, with the other being G10.
 
Some interesting new SRM/Land models:

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908 and 908T. These two seem to have some Zero Tolerance homage style characteristics. Wow! This one apparently has a weight of 7.6oz and a blade length of 3.3", that is one dense knife! A little too heavy for me, but seems to go for just under $15 shipped to the US.

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And a comparison shot with a ZT 0200:
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Okay I went ahead and ordered the 908T. Even though it's large I love the red/black color scheme and I found it for just $14 including shipping. I'll review it along with the El-08 when I get them. It's a beautiful beast of a knife, looking forward to receiving it:

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You guys seem to prefer the liner lock and frame locks to the axis? I got preference for the axis. Any new models thats nice in micarta or g10? been a while since I bought any knives.
 
These LANDs are not Sanrenmu's LAND according to some sources. The 908 is not what SRM 908 used to be either.

Chinese company faking another more well known one?
 
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Chris "Anagarika";10603582 said:
These LANDs are not Sanrenmu's LAND accorfong to some sources. The 908 is not what SRM 908 used to be either.

Chinese company faking another more well known one?
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Interesting, I just checked the russian forum and you're right, someone there says that Jacky Hu (the excellent products guy) has said that this 908 is not a 'real' SRM/LAND knife, as there already is another 908 model. Only in China would someone want to counterfeit a knife for the $14 market.

For $14 shipped I don't really care who made the knife.
 
Right. If the quality is as good. From my experience, those that do only copying usually not care much about quality. The only reason I started with Sanrenmu was that at least they started with their own brand. ;)
even if they were 'inspired' by western design.

Navy, which does more copying, it's quality control is not that tight as we have seen.
 
picked up a couple of these a while back, quick reviews of less popular models might add pics later

sanrenmu land 6261
blade 2.68
closed 3.54
OAL 6.34
2.47oz

discontinued small AXIS folder with red/black pakawood handle tipup righty only. very tight axis lock seems to have a spring around entire button? its small size works against opening benefits of AXIS lock. my hand is tad larger than handle and found myself cupping the blade when trying to open using axis button. button pretty sharp too

enlan m011
blade 2.79
closed 3.66
oal 6.49
2.46oz

nice wood handled linerlock, righty tip up. good action like most sanremu and enlan 1 bronze and 1 nylon washer. really like this one

sanrenmu 786
blade 2.52
closed 3.86
oal 6.49
2.65oz

lockback, FFG blade, tipup righty has bottle opener intergrated into clip/butt. i'd like this more if action wasn't so stiff but appears strong for its size

enlan m021
blade 2.83
closed 3.77
oal 6.65
2.46oz

this is very similar to
sanrenmu 704
2.46
3.6
6.38
2.4

small linerlock. blades are actually equal, enlan has a weird choil reducing usable blade. prefer the sanremu better lockup and thicker liner

enlan m06-1
blade 2.67
closed 3.77
oal 6.37
2.46oz

similar to
SANREMU 710
2.71
3.66
6.49
3.25

small framelock tipup righty only. i haven't handled the sanrenmu710 but this enlan is not smooth. has bronze and nylon washers but framelock is very stiff.
EDIT: did a teardown of enlan m06-1. possible manufacture defect. from factory pivot has presentation side on left and torx on right, pivot is cresent shaped to snap into frame. one side was cresent shaped while other round causing misalignment. swapped positions with screw on left and presentation on right now smooth opening


i have a couple other models. overall impressed. fit and finish extremely well for $10 knives. forget the ebayer i bought some from but got them in like 2weeks, also bought from exduct that took a full month
 
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Just thought I'd let everyone know it looks like the Sanrenmu 710 is back in stock online for $7-$10 or so. It's a great knife, still regarded by many as the best chinese knife out there, and by far the best bang for the buck.
 
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Just thought I'd let everyone know it looks like the Sanrenmu 710 is back in stock online for $7-$10 or so. It's a great knife, still regarded by many as the best chinese knife out there, and by far the best bang for the buck.
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Yep, back on the bay after disappearing there too.
 
Just pulled the trigger on a SR 738, 763 and 710. No need for a bigger folder at the moment since I'm perfectly happy with my EL-02 so I had to suppress my urge to buy an enlan EL-04.
 
Why did you post that :(

I was trying to save some money to get myself a Kershaw Skyline and a Mini grip. Must...resist...!
 
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