Well, I guess the honeymoon is over for poor 'joverton.' I was going to hold my tongue about this situation, but now that people are getting somewhat riled up, I feel I should speak out.
It is obvious to me that someone in management at Deloro Stellite screwed the pooch on this one. They tossed a grenade into 'joverton's lap on a Friday (OK, his original post was on a Thursday, but remember he was traveling on Friday, so it was, in effect, a Friday for him.
Management tasked this poor young man with a tremendously difficult job, and asked him to perform it in a medium in which he admits a lack of experience. Without providing him basic information. This is right out of 'Dilbert.'
How do I know he is young? Well, anyone of my generation, who had the penguins make you diagram sentences, and used a ruler on your hands when you goofed off, would not make the grammatical and spelling mistakes he has.
Consider this sentence: 'The advantage much longer edge life.' Left out the verb. Used the word 'patients' when he meant 'patience.'
Spelling: 'simular,' 'peoples' (where he meant people) 'knowledg,' 'comparion,'
'artical' and 'Missouir.'
So, how do I know this is management's fault? Well, it is either that, or 'joverton' is a young man who doesn't do his homework. The latter, I feel, can be discounted, since he has been very helpful bringing out new material when he can. No person of even average intelligence would go into any type of meeting, attempting to sell a product, without knowing the price, or without knowing its' properties and advantages, and having ready a detailed list of these ready to disseminate.
Further, Deloro Stellite's website sucks the big one; to get the URL's I posted for information about physical properties and composition on the various Stellite alloys, I had to search through many other sites. When I finally found the information, it was noted that the information was provided by Deloro Stellite!! Information NOT on DS's website.
So, let's cut 'joverton' a little slack. I should make it clear that correct grammar, syntax, and spelling are not required here; I used your mistakes only to demonstrate your (supposed) youth, sir. No offense intended, I have made such errors myself. Frankly, the DATA are what are important.
It would be nice if DS would post the physical properties and elemental composition of its' various alloys on its' website. It would be nice if you
'joverton,' cleared up my confusion which I previously posted:
I certainly can't argue with your experience, Tom, but I wonder why 6k would be so much harder. The only change I can see is a slightly higher carbon content, which would indeed give more W carbides, but the singularly non detailed Deloro Stellite site only says that 6k is slightly harder than 6b.
Further confusing me is the fact that 6b is age hardened, and 6k is not, which would seem to offset to some extent the hardness gained by the additional carbon in the 6k.
For crikey sakes, sir, get the price information posted ASAP. DS has been selling this alloy for what? About 30 years? Further, a poster has given a name and phone number of a member of your company who can provide price information! So it is obvious that the information exists. Is someone in management blocking your efforts to determine the price structure?
Further, although no one has mentioned this, one well known knifemaker who has used Stellite (r) for at least a decade has expressed his opinion to me that the real problem with Stellite (r) is AVAILABILITY, not price. Would you kindly address this issue, sir?
Feel free to show a print out of this post to your superior. Because if his/her true wish is to promote Stellite (r), this task is most definitely NOT being accomplished. If management goes on treating the poor pooch the way they have been, the best that they can hope for is pick of the litter.
Awaiting your reply, I remain yr. obt. svt., Walt Welch
