Strider Knives, Game Over!

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Bubbanumber1 said:
I'm glad you brought that up because when I first read it I too was a little confused so I decided to look into it. As far as I know Kevin McClung has never told anyone he was CIA but then how would one know unless they are Valerie Plame and outed as CIA.

I looked into this situation when it was thrown in as evidence that Kevin was a liar and guess what? It turns out that at worst he is guilty of bad writing but has not committed any Military Fraud and is not a Military Poser. I don't believe the book was ever published and there was not much interest in it, it certainly has played no factor in Mad Dog Knives being advertised to the best of my knowledge.
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"I looked into this situation when it was thrown in as evidence that Kevin was a liar and guess what? It turns out that at worst he is guilty of bad writing but has not committed any Military Fraud and is not a Military Poser"

Well you didn't look very hard........ didya

What about the time when he claimed five years as a professional soldier, then changed it to two and when pressed said that he really worked for a civilian company that helped train the military in the field........sounds like posing to me........look it up .......it's all there........use your superior investigative skills that I've seen so much of in this thread.........maybe someone who's in the "KNOW" can confirm that mcclung has indeed lied.
 
english mark said:
"I looked into this situation when it was thrown in as evidence that Kevin was a liar and guess what? It turns out that at worst he is guilty of bad writing but has not committed any Military Fraud and is not a Military Poser"

Well you didn't look very hard........ didya

What about the time when he claimed five years as a professional soldier, then changed it to two and when pressed said that he really worked for a civilian company that helped train the military in the field........sounds like posing to me........look it up .......it's all there........use your superior investigative skills that I've seen so much of in this thread.........maybe someone who's in the "KNOW" can confirm that mcclung has indeed lied.
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Fine, You show anywhere that McClung is claiming to be U.S. Army or U.S. Marine and I will be all over it. Thats where people cross lines not claiming they are mercenaries, guns for hire, assassins, ninjas, or anything else. If you have a personal problem with him I don't care about that either, I haven't found him claiming to be Army or Marine so I will not be bothering beyond that.

Heres some advice for free, Start yet another Mad Dog Knives thread if you want to bitch about Kevin McClung, otherwise this thread is about Duane Dwyer, Mick Strider, Strider Knives and whether they have used fraud to deceive customers into believing they were purchasing products by former Special Operations, Ranger, Scout Sniper, Combat Vets.
 
I never brought mcclung into this thread.......you said there are two camps in this argument and that you would do future business with mad dog and co because they have never told lies.....well he has . He claimed to be a "professional soldier" and he wasn't. But as long as he doesn't claim any particular branch you'll turn a blind eye.....eh?

I don't need your advice.........I was under the impression that this thread was about DD not Strider Knives and not about defrauding customers.
 
It Is Not About Their Knives


IT IS ALL ABOUT THEIR ETHICS


the quality of their products is a non issue...........
 
It appears that the thread on socnet has been locked without any real information being posted. It appears that silverbullet is waiting for more information to be received. He does state that he has found out some facts that are disturbing, but that is about it.

Lance, where was socnet going to post the information you mentioned earlier?
 
If I hated every military guy who told me a story that was less than 100% true, I don't think I would have any military friends (I was in the Army). If I was hated by everyone who I may have lied to, or told a story to with some dramatic license, or treated badly, then my family would hate me and I would have no friends (yeah, I have a few)!

These threads have become less about ethics, and more about just bad feelings, envy, & hate. That is my opinion, and it will not change. People who participate in these relentless attacks in my experience make themselves less and pay a price for keeping this bile and hate flowing through them.

If you won't buy a knife from someone who has sinned, then you will go knifeless. If you won't watch a a sport full of "cheats" claiming they never took performance enhancing drugs, I hope you like HS girls sports. If you'll only vote for someone who has bever told a a lie, you won't vote. Get over it and spend your time on something positive, because this stuff will end up eating you up inside.
 
Bubbanumber1 said:
Heres some advice for free, Start yet another Mad Dog Knives thread if you want to bitch about Kevin McClung, otherwise this thread is about Duane Dwyer, Mick Strider, Strider Knives and whether they have used fraud to deceive customers into believing they were purchasing products by former Special Operations, Ranger, Scout Sniper, Combat Vets.
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So does this mean that Darryl Bolke/Nyeti should be left out of it? How about Charles Mawhinney? Richard Marcinko? I don't see you coming to bat for them like you do in the above quote.

I do agree with you, this thread is about 1 thing - Duane Dwyer & his background. Your original post makes the statement that Duane Dwyer was a Digital Data Systems Technician, not a Sniper. As evidence you provide a link to POW Network. In 99 pages there really has not been any new developments. At best, there have been a few posts by people that have contacted some organizations to get them looking into it also. The rest of this thread is mainly comprised of people who seem very happy to have another chance to badmouth Strider Knives. If we took out all the non relevant posts, mine included, this thread would probably only be 2 pages. Some posts by you & Tamishigiri seem to serve no purpose other than to bump this thread back up to the top. How about everyone leave this thread alone, unless they have a post with real supporting evidence in it? No more stuff like:

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend
heard from this guy who knows this kid
who's going with a girl
who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 Flavors last night.
I guess it's pretty serious……"

Or are there still some people out there who have not gotten their badmouth Strider Knives jollies off?
 
You know, we used to have big long threads like this one on Mad Dog in the early days of Bladeforums. They're still here if you want to read them (if you don't have access to the internal search function you can use google). We don't have Mad Dog controversies any more. You can't have a controversy without any disagreement.

I think the time will come when we don't have Strider controversies any more, but we're not there yet.
 
Horned Toad said:
I could throw that back at you, your point?


This thread was about DD. Who was a Marine. If you have some earth shattering revelation about Mick, maybe you can ask Spark to reopen that thread. Believe it or not there may be folks on this board with some experience about the Rangers that didn’t come from a goarmy.com webpage.
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Someone asked what RIP was, I posted what it was from the Army site instead of giving my personal description of it.

I also posted a link so that person could check it out themselves.

My only point was that instead of getting someone's opinion or description of RIP (with having no way to know if they have been through it or not, or whether it's accurate or not), you can actually go get the information right from the source, the Army.

As far as "Mick" goes, I think the lawsuit results from the Chris Osman case speak for themselves.
 
Cougar Allen said:
I think the time will come when we don't have Strider controversies any more, but we're not there yet.
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Agreed, but until the time comes when Strider Knives takes someone's money and doesn't deliver the goods or doesn't honor their warranty,I think these are somewhat seperate(but related) issues. The arguments have been presented to this this point and it's up to the buyer to decide if he/she will spend their money on these products. An informed buyer can now decide for themself. If after they decide to make a purchase and something goes wrong with that purchase, they would have a beef to post about.
I just read about another maker who's going out of business and he owes money to customers. From what I understand, he stated he'll make good, but that is more about "The Good, The Bad, The Ugly" than a game of "He said/She said" that is playing out here right now.
If it turns out DD has been lying, he'll have to answer for that. I hope Strider continues to be successful after this chapter is over as they make solid products and stand behind them. They also employ local workers and that means a lot to me, as I'd rather support home-grown anyday over outsourced. When we talk about honor and integrity, I try to apply that to everything not just this hobby. I would hope those whom use those words over and over apply that level of scrutiny to everything else they partake in.
 
Broos said:
If I hated every military guy who told me a story that was less than 100% true, I don't think I would have any military friends (I was in the Army). If I was hated by everyone who I may have lied to, or told a story to with some dramatic license, or treated badly, then my family would hate me and I would have no friends (yeah, I have a few)!
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Sir, I do not know if you have read this whole thread. I can say (with some degree of discomfort) that I have read all 1960+ posts.

As it has been made clear earlier, what any red blooded proud citizen of our nation could (should?) find offensive is not "...every military guy who told me a story that was less than 100% true..." but those who tell those lies about their 'Military History' to make a buck.

This is specially true, in this time of war when many of us have family and friends coming home in pieces from a war.

This is unnecessary, when as clearly evidenced by a majority of posters, the Strider products speak for themselves.

This is specially sad, when both Strider company owners/founders have a military background that without embellishment would have been, should have been... enough.
 
Silverbullet "Using independent research plus confirmation from HQMC his real last name is Poland. The DD-214 on the POW Network website is his.

He is not a 8541 or served in a STA Plt.

There are also no secret missions or body counts.

I was hopeful that the info would turn out to be true and had to break it to a close friend earlier today since I didn't want him to see it here first."
 
Cougar Allen said:
You know, we used to have big long threads like this one on Mad Dog in the early days of Bladeforums. They're still here if you want to read them (if you don't have access to the internal search function you can use google). We don't have Mad Dog controversies any more. You can't have a controversy without any disagreement.

I think the time will come when we don't have Strider controversies any more, but we're not there yet.
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I sure hope you're right, it takes so much energy away from the knife community as a whole. :thumbup:
 
I have NEVER known the POWNETWORK to be wrong. And, I never understood why so many protested the evidence posted.

Like I said in the begining, DUANE T. DWYER is a POSER, FRAUD, PHONEY and the worst of all people. He has STOLEN the VALOR and the GLORY of thousands of men and has made a fortune from his lies, as has his partner Mick.

Both DWYER and MICK need to find that rock in the desert and crawl under it. They are both a disgrace.
 
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