Strider Knives, Game Over!

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Firecap I saw that. Again I do not know the players but back then I read them closely as it pertained to the "tactical world".

Obviously something happened (no kidding Ira) that caused them to truly no like each other but back then DD, LH, MS. and DB posted about the tactical world often and it was usually a good read.
 
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174114


Acknowledges DD knew all about the claim he was a hero. There are others, buy a membership

I cannot post entire threads MORON, use the search yourself. You miss the point' eeverywhere one turned during this time frame you read about DD being a SCOUT SNIPER with an impressive kill count and then low and behold he is writing posts on Optics, rifles and calibers and even references the Scount Sniper Long shot record.

So I put up idiot now you STFU!!!!

Funny then that the 2 you linked say nothing about either in their posts. His refrence to the Long shot record in case you missed it was putting himself down because he had just bad mouthed the same set up. I guess people who deal in weapons shouldn't know the stats from the competitions that apply to them though. I know it is frustrating waiting but try and get some of your neutrality back until the base question is answered.

Acording to Lance we should hear something from SOCNET in the next 6 hours or so.

TamishigiriSOCNET will make a POST later this afternoon.

And we just all know that lance is " IN THE KNOW" so even though the afternoon is quicly becoming evening here, I will give him the benifit of the dought and give it till midnight. After all he would not lie about or misrepresent knowing something that is so important.
 
Micky, continue to miss the point. You can search..........

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..............
 
Hey,

when this is over you guys can start a

"we supported Strider Fan Club even though they were lieing the whole time..."


I'll bet it will be real popular !




Say it aint so JOE !
 
I do support Mick, so what! I buy his knives because he makes a great product and not because of who he is as a person. Oh well... I told myself I was going to stay out of this mess and here I am. :eek:
 
One more time Lance.....Are you going to discuss this with Duane at the Shot Show??......................................We're waiting!!
 
One more time Lance.....Are you going to discuss this with Daune at the Shot Show??......................................We're waiting!!

What does that have to do with anything? Should we make it an MMA cage match and the winner of the fight is vindicated, or should we wait to see how the investigation turns out and decide based on the facts?
 
One more time Lance.....Are you going to discuss this with Daune at the Shot Show??......................................We're waiting!!

If I said the sun was up and you said the sun was down, and we fought over it, does that change the fact of whether or not the sun is really up or down?
 
As far as SOCNET they may post today I don’t know I haven’t asked. I have specifically not bothered them so that no one can say there was bias. I do believe that they will post something after SHOT for sure. If its today, the great, maybe there will be some new info.

Just a few days ago Lance was of the opinion that SOCNET was corrupt and had been since 01. Now he wants everyone to think they are buds. The term is cool by association.

I did talk to them in that respect and I laughed pretty hard when I heard how far Lance’s attempts at name dropping went.
 
What does that have to do with anything? Should we make it an MMA cage match and the winner of the fight is vindicated, or should we wait to see how the investigation turns out and decide based on the facts?

Oh hell....lets do the match, it might be more interesting that the crap that is being spread here!! I just thought he might like to get his answer face to face.... what is wrong with that? No one has said there has to be a ruckus!! Have they?? I just thought since Lance was going to be there it would be nice if someone would say to Duane "Were you really sniper or not"! That seems quite simple to me.
 
somebody already asked Duane, he said he's litigating. I don't know what a face to face at a trade show is supposed to accomplish.
 
somebody already asked Duane, he said he's litigating. I don't know what a face to face at a trade show is supposed to accomplish.
That was several days ago, and maybe if he is asked by someone he knows he will get a different reply!! Don't know, just asking!!
 
Oh hell....lets do the match, it might be more interesting that the crap that is being spread here!! I just thought he might like to get his answer face to face.... what is wrong with that? No one has said there has to be a ruckus!! Have they?? I just thought since Lance was going to be there it would be nice if someone would say to Duane "Were you really sniper or not"! That seems quite simple to me.

Okay, but there's already a history of Duane asking to "take it outside" so I thought that's what you were getting at.

I'd like to hear from Duane but not second hand. If he makes a public statement he'll have to own up to it. Apparently he is giving the impression he was a S/S or he would have said the rumors were false by now and he had nothing to do with spreading them. If he was a S/S why not offer up some proof? It's probably best just to wait and see how things turn out. We can all speculate but we all know what good it does to assume...
 
I'd like to hear from Duane but not second hand. If he makes a public statement he'll have to own up to it. Apparently he is giving the impression he was a S/S or he would have said the rumors were false by now and he had nothing to do with spreading them. If he was a S/S why not offer up some proof? It's probably best just to wait and see how things turn out. We can all speculate but we all know what good it does to assume...

I think we'll be waiting a very long time to see how things turn out...if we have to wait for Duane to speak out. I very strongly doubt that any proof of Sniper experience is forthcoming from Duane Dwyer. It all appears that DD is as much of a poser, although not as outpoken, as Micky Strider has proven to be. Very sad indeed.
 
Tamishigiri SOCNET will make a POST later this afternoon.

If anything new is posted at socnet it will presumably be at http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showthread.php?t=75137&page=2

It's still afternoon west coast time.

It is definatly past late afternoon or evening in all the contental United States and pretty well past night and will soon be heading into next morning, so I believe our " IN THE KNOW " guy isn't as "IN THE KNOW" as he believes / wants us to think he is.:thumbdn:

Have a good one all.
 
Hey Bubba, while not "military," Mr. McClung claimed to have worked for the CIA at age 14. That's fairly high in the Secret Squirrel hierarchy. (Dark Genius: Kevin McKlung, Stephen J. Rivele, Hardcover, 1991)

From Kirkus Reviews
Spellbinding autobiography of a child prodigy--gifted in the black arts of weaponry--who enters the shadow world of international-arms sales. Raised in the San Francisco Bay area in the late 60's, McClung was the son of an aeronautical engineering genius and gave early proof of his own prodigious grip on ``mechanix'' by secretly building a complex electric rifle when he was four. McClung was accepted by the Bay area's genius education program for ``Mentally Gifted Minors,'' whose special scientific projects were constantly sifted by the CIA for ideas--with the best projects (including McClung's vest for bugging and eavesdropping) stolen and passed on to CIA scientists. At 14, McClung met OSS-CIA master spy John Colling, who taught him the basics of spy-craft. Then falconer and top CIA assassin Ray Goodreau taught him about falconry and animal training, unconventional weapons, and commando tactics; McClung had already shaped his body into a lethal weapon through the martial arts. Goodreau also sharpened him into a remorseless anticommunist death-dealer. Eventually, McClung fell in with Marty Rhymer, a CIA wire-man, and Gabe Margolis, a boorish Mossad commando, who together had formed Amida Ltd., later a CIA secret business whose cover was selling weapons, uniforms and support gear to California law enforcement agencies but which quickly became a feast of international arms dealing. McClung refined a new Diplomat poison- tipped pen-gun, and, with his deadly book-gun (a copy of The Book of the Dead that fired bullets) and always accurate laser rifle, etc., etc. (diagrams for many of the weapons are given), became the company's chief inventor of killer ``toys.'' Then Ibriham Haddad, fat and perfumed king of arms dealers, invaded Amida and took it over, adding his own poison to Amida's already irredeemably corrupt juices. When Amida set up McClung to be assassinated, he hid out in the wilds for three years and abandoned dealing death downward from the top of the food chain. The rotten underbelly of US Intelligence, grippingly sliced open. Film rights sold. -- Copyright ©1991, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved.

From Publishers Weekly
Fresh out of high school, McClung in the mid-1970s went to work for a small firm in California's Silicon Valley designing such items as a pen-gun, a laser-sighted rifle, an exploding ashtray and a high-tech thumbscrew, all for sale in the international arms market. He was shocked to learn that the company was run by "crass profiteers and mean-spirited opportunists" whose business dealings were often illegal. Later he discovered that they were thinking of having him murdered, fearful that he was going to blow the whistle on them. McClung went into hiding, camping out in the Sierra Nevada for a couple of years. He now produces custom-made guns and knives "somewhere in central California." Basically this is an entertaining tale about a precocious young man who got involved in a sleazy fly-by-night business that may or may not have been backed by the CIA. Rivele is coauthor of Lieutenant Ramsey's War . 50,000 first printing; $75,000 ad/promo; movie rights to Paul Mas lan sky.
Copyright 1991 Reed Business Information, Inc.

From Library Journal
Readers of this book should ignore coauthor Rivele's overly dramatic prose and concentrate on the story of a mentally gifted child (McClung) being manipulated and groomed by the CIA in the 1960s. Enrolled in an experimental educational program at the age of seven, McClung grew up to be a special weapons expert and was involved in several secret operations in the 1970s and 1980s before a falling out with his superiors. However, the interweaving of a parallel story of his CIA "handlers" before they met McClung is confusing. Actually, this book is more of an interesting tale of secret missions in Asia and Latin America, along with a description of how to conduct clandestine activities through "front" companies, than a straight account of McClung's adventures. Recommended for espionage collections in public libraries.
- Daniel K. Blewett, Loyola Univ. Lib., Chicago
Copyright 1991 Reed Business Information, Inc.

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I'm glad you brought that up because when I first read it I too was a little confused so I decided to look into it. As far as I know Kevin McClung has never told anyone he was CIA but then how would one know unless they are Valerie Plame and outed as CIA.

I looked into this situation when it was thrown in as evidence that Kevin was a liar and guess what? It turns out that at worst he is guilty of bad writing but has not committed any Military Fraud and is not a Military Poser. I don't believe the book was ever published and there was not much interest in it, it certainly has played no factor in Mad Dog Knives being advertised to the best of my knowledge.

Maybe somewhere out there in cyberspace there is a group of Ex-CIA Officers who investigate Phony Clandestine CIA Operatives and Black Op False Flag Operations and maybe they have access to Top Secret Files and when they seek out Kevin McClungs file it would prove he was in fact a Data Technician and nothing more.

Maybe there is a group of writers somewhere that are very concerned with protecting the good names of writers that will investigate Kevin McClung and prove he is a bad writer or that at least that he has participated in writing a bad book in what I understand was a first attempt at writing fiction and was never intended as an autobiography faithful to detailed facts about his real life.
 
It is definatly past late afternoon or evening in all the contental United States and pretty well past night and will soon be heading into next morning, so I believe our " IN THE KNOW " guy isn't as "IN THE KNOW" as he believes / wants us to think he is.:thumbdn:

Have a good one all.




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