Strider Knives. Why So Much?

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10 pages; Can we lock this stupid shit. Because that's exactly what it is. YOU HAVE 5 OPTIONS PEOPLE

1: You don't like Mick and you don't buy his knives.
2: You don't like Mick but you do buy his knives.
3: You like Mick, you buy his knives.
4: You like Mick, you don't buy his knives.
5: You don't give a shit; You buy whatever you want.
 
Reeek said:
Those are some pretty big words to throw around if you ask me. It may be best to finish these comments off with a big, fat "IMHO". Sounds kind of "self centered" in an assumptive, wholesale, sort of way.

Which America were you raised in?

Mods, it might be time for the Whine and Cheese move pretty soon . . .
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Yeah, there you go, whine for a mod to come in and save you from the nasty truth tellers, how insufferable the truth must be indeed.

Here's some more truth for those that are simply to lazy to read the posted links outright,
SECTION 2: Mick Strider claims he served in the 2/75th Rangers

When brought up by third parties, only general claims were made about Mick Strider’s military service record until 2005. No one had prior reason to disbelieve claims of service in the Ranger Battalions.

On 7-19-2005, Mick Strider makes the following statement:
http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bi...509;p=1#000022




Not really. They also falsified my military history.
im not much of a talker. All anyone knows about my military history, if anything is that i served in a Ranger Battalion.
Never have i told a story of ANY of my military duty.
My parents don’t know
My friends don’t know.
In fact when asked what I did, while in the service I generally say I was in the Infantry. Only knife geeks, and actual real people know more. (because folks sure like to talk about mick)…

Its my business. im a VERY private person.
Nothing i did while serving in the Military was special. i had a head full of spiders then, just like now. Please note the claims that others falsified his military history and keep this in mind during later statements made by Mick Strider.

Mick Strider posted his “DD214” on BadlandsForums.com presumably during the same time period. The document in question was alleged to be heavily altered.

The following was posted by Beau Springer on 7-21-2005 -
http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bi...514;p=1#000000




No one falsified your military history but you. The DD214 that you posted at “badlandsforum.com” was blacked out and provided details for only two events: that you went to the three week Ranger Indoctrination Program ("RIP"), and Airborne School. The Ranger Indoctrination Program is a school that anyone with hopes of serving in a Ranger Battalion may attend. Attending RIP and Jump School is very different from serving as a Ranger, and one may serve in a Ranger Battalion without doing or seeing much of anything. One cannot fault you for concealing sensitive personal information, but your DD214, as conveyed, is a worthless document. Note at the top left of the DD214 that it states: “ANY ALTERATIONS IN SHADED AREAS MAKE FORM VOID”. If there’s more to your military history then please refute these statements with something stronger than a blacked-out DD214 and some “can’t talk about it” remarks. Your ex-wife states under penalty of perjury that you are a liar and cites specific lies that you have made regarding your military service [Reference attachment, page 2, “Responsive Declaration to Order to Show Cause or Notice of Motion Case No. DN94369” as filed by Chelsea Mayne dated July 12, 1999].

Your DD214 also indicates that you served in the Army from 1984 to 1986, and of course this is insufficient time in which to serve as an Operator with a [high-speed] SOCOM organization, and not enough time to train or learn the skills necessary to be a Ranger (Ranger School alone requires a time commitment in excess of two years time left in service). The allegedly altered DD214 disappeared from BadlandsForums.com and cannot be seen today. Another individual posted a modified version, superimposed with STRIDER KNIVES APPROVED (see attached file Mickey.jpg) found at http://www.badlandsforums.com/forums...achmentid=2569

This document is indeed heavily redacted. The only information displayed is:
Block 1: BURGER, MICKEY RAY
Block 2: ARMY / RA
Block 5: 670323
Block 9: NA
Block 14: Basic Airborne, 3 wks (84) // Ranger Indoctrination Program, 3 wks (86) //
Block 22: JOSEPH I. GILL, III, 1LT, AG, ASST AG
Block 23: Discharge
Block 24: Honorable
Items of note:

Block 26 (SEPERATION CODE) is redacted, yet circled.
Block 27 (REENLISTMENT CODE) is redacted.
Block 4A (GRADE, RATE OR RANK) is redacted.
Block 4B (PAY GRADE) is redacted.
Block 14, though listing Basic Airborne and Ranger Indoctrination program, has the entire rest of the section redacted, as if to imply that area is filled with additional information. The last citation in this block is terminated with by NOTHING FOLLOWS to prevent easy alteration.

The rest of Mick Strider’s statement on TacticalForums.com covers a wide variety of topics, but does not contain any denials or refutations of time in service. Since he posted the allegedly modified DD214, and offers no refutation to statements about dates, it therefore can be assumed that he acknowledges his service dates are from 1984-1986, and that at least part of his time in service was spent in the 2/75 Ranger Battalion.

Mick Strider was repeatedly requested for dates of service, unit names, and times spent in those units. Mick Strider refused to provide them.

A FOIA request resulted in the following documents:
http://www.bladeforums.com/burger1.jpg
http://www.bladeforums.com/burger2.jpg
http://www.bladeforums.com/burger3.jpg

Facts revealed by the FOIA documents:
Mickey Ray Burger served from 12-26-85, until 11-26-86. 11 months of total active duty service.
His final pay grade was Private, E-1.
He attended Basic Airborne School in 1986, not 1984.
He was assigned to C CO 2/75 RGR on 05-29-86
He was removed from the 2/75 and sent to A CO 3/47 IN on 08-04-86
He went AWOL on 08-29-86 and returned 1 week later
He is discharged from the Army 81 days later on 11-26-86

Based on this information, Mick Strider was honorably discharged, and served in the Ranger Regiment. However, Mick Strider's posted DD214 did contain incorrect information. Furthermore, Mick Strider has mischaracterized the nature of his time in the 2/75 RGR, unless of course he gained vast amount of Special Operations knowledge in 65 days. FOIA paperwork shows no record of combat service, deployment to any war zone, and discharge before Operation Just Cause.

Claims have been made that Mick Strider was removed from C CO 2/75 RGR because of a jump related injury. No medical documentation has been provided to support these claims, despite numerous requests. Mick Strider's Assignment paperwork indicates no long term hospitalization, or assignment to any Medical hold units. Furthermore, an injury severe enough to remove Mick Strider from 2/75 RGR would almost certainly qualify him for disability;
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As you can plainly see these "ahh" issues are not ancient history, they were taking place as late as 2007!
 
Seriously? You are going this far out of your way to keep dragging this shit on? Grow up and get a life brother. I find that getting out of the house every day makes me a happy guy. You should try it.
 
nick425 said:
Seriously? You are going this far out of your way to keep dragging this shit on? Grow up and get a life brother. I find that getting out of the house every day makes me a happy guy. You should try it.
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Of course, he hasn't proven his point enough times yet. :rolleyes:
 
nick425 said:
Seriously? You are going this far out of your way to keep dragging this shit on? Grow up and get a life brother. I find that getting out of the house every day makes me a happy guy. You should try it.
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He could be sitting outside on a laptop.......:D J/K I think we all need to take a deep breath........woooo, feels good don't it?? We are all knife guys after all.....
 
Grow up and get a life brother
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You'll have to make an allowance, I was one of the fools who actually served, it's a bigger deal then you happen to think it is...
 
Well I think everyone can see you are pretty butt hurt over this. Time to let it go. Thanks for your service brother.
 
Finarfin said:
You'll have to make an allowance, I was one of the fools who actually served, it's a bigger deal then you happen to think it is...
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Thank you for your service but please, I think you need to calm down a bit. I'm sure almost everyone here appreciates those who have served- don't assume some don't because of their posts. You do an awful lot of assuming.
 
Nternal said:
Not a strider fan and Fin..you are mistaken about me not having honor. You don't know me. I will say however that Mick Strider telling some knife snob who obviously has too much money to be spending on these 300+ dollar folders and too much time on his hands to be an all knowing critic to lick his sack is quite hilarious. I think what I was trying to say went over your head though, I believe a knife should be judged on it's merits alone, it's a sharpened piece of steel..it has no honor.. it's an inanimate object.
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Gosdent said:
same here. i don't care for people who say "you shouldn't buy from them they aren't good people." I buy what I like, not who I like. Like for me, I personally hate Microtech company for various reasons, but I love their knives.
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I must be really bored to even look at this thread. This subject has been beaten so many times, its not even humorous anymore...

That is the problem with this whole scenario. The knife is just a knife. Buy what you want, for whatever reason you want. The big difference for some of us is, there are somethings more important than the knives, believe it or not. A persons honor, integrity and word, are far more imortant than any knife made.
Maybe that is our loss. I don't think it is...
For those that choose to idolize and worship an egotistical, self absorbed liar, carry on.
 
Despite some of their shady past I admit I still look at the Strider section in online stores every once in a while. I've owned an SnG that had perfect fit and finish and the ones that I had to send in were fixed fairly quickly. I don't have them anymore but I'm always thinking about getting another. And no joke, the SnG CC with stonewashed blade is a beautiful looking knife. For me things like damascus and other fancy materials aren't attractive. I like titanium and stonewashed blades!
 
338375 said:
I must be really bored to even look at this thread. This subject has been beaten so many times, its not even humorous anymore...

That is the problem with this whole scenario. The knife is just a knife. Buy what you want, for whatever reason you want. The big difference for some of us is, there are somethings more important than the knives, believe it or not. A persons honor, integrity and word, are far more imortant than any knife made.
Maybe that is our loss. I don't think it is...
For those that choose to idolize and worship an egotistical, self absorbed liar, carry on.
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So would you not buy an excellently made knife if say...the creator was gay and you didn't agree with that?
 
I must be really bored to even look at this thread. This subject has been beaten so many times, its not even humorous anymore...

That is the problem with this whole scenario. The knife is just a knife. Buy what you want, for whatever reason you want. The big difference for some of us is, there are somethings more important than the knives, believe it or not. A persons honor, integrity and word, are far more imortant than any knife made.
Maybe that is our loss. I don't think it is...
For those that choose to idolize and worship an egotistical, self absorbed liar, carry on.
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Good post...
 
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