Strider Knives?

dantzk8 said:
MPE,

I do feel better, i don't like to be in desagreement with somebody i agree with!
My english being what it is your misunderstanding is understandable!

dantzk.
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No problem dantzk8. I am glad we were able to work out the misunderstanding in a civil manner. Funny thing is, and really it is not funny but, our two early threads about a coming war have seem to materialize. I would have to say, there was no miscommunication there.

MPE
 
Wabajack said:
Why exactly are Strider knives so darn expensive? your paying for a piece of S30V with 40 cents of cord around the handle, nothing special, and yet you would be hard pressed to get one for under $300.00, what makes them worth that much money? Why cord handles why not Micarta (seems more practical)? And for the most part their designs are highly impractical (especially for the $300.00 +)

And why is a knife this simple and so easy to manufacture so expensive? :

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/strider_st_karambit.htm

What does this following knife have over a knife of similar size such as the Fallkniven F1? Besides being over 2x the price? :

http://www.plazacutlery.com/Strider/Strider0830318.htm

Just curious to why these Knives are so bank breaking and yet so impractical. :)

I would much rather have any of the Busse, Swamprat or Scrapyard family for any task (Better Steel, Better Design, Better Price)... :D
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I personally don't exactly know why anyone would buy a Strider Knife from
Mick Strider who's name is Mickey Ray Strider. A man who claims to have faced the perils of real combat and who had put his life on the line during numerous Special Operations and Black Ops. A Man who touts himself,the real expert when it comes to combat or tactical knives. When in fact, He has lied about his experiences in combat (none), Special Operations (none) and Black Ops (none), not to mention the fact that he served 5 years in prison on felony convictions for ARMED CARJACKING, USE AND CARRYING OF A FIREARM DURING THE COMMISION OF A VIOLENT CRIME, AND INTERSTATE TRANSPORTATION OF A STOLEN VEHICLE.

Further more Mick Strider acknowledges that he has never been deployed as a U.S. Army Ranger. Strider also acknowledges that he has never served in or participated with SOCOM (Special Operations Command). Strider also acknowledges that he has never had any combat experience with any branch of the U.S. Military or U.S.Government Agencies, nor has he participated in any "Black Ops". Strider served in 2/75, but never graduated Ranger School. Strider lost all rank, was barred from re-enlistment and was discharged from the Military as a Private.

Mickey Strider is Basicly a criminal and conman who's sole purpose is to part with your money and other's in real combat who struggle everyday

For more Go to www.coldsteel.com/strider.html
 
razorburn said:
I personally don't exactly know why anyone would buy a Strider Knife from
Mick Strider who's name is Mickey Ray Strider. A man who claims to have faced the perils of real combat and who had put his life on the line during numerous Special Operations and Black Ops. A Man who touts himself,the real expert when it comes to combat or tactical knives. When in fact, He has lied about his experiences in combat (none), Special Operations (none) and Black Ops (none), not to mention the fact that he served 5 years in prison on felony convictions for ARMED CARJACKING, USE AND CARRYING OF A FIREARM DURING THE COMMISION OF A VIOLENT CRIME, AND INTERSTATE TRANSPORTATION OF A STOLEN VEHICLE.

Further more Mick Strider acknowledges that he has never been deployed as a U.S. Army Ranger. Strider also acknowledges that he has never served in or participated with SOCOM (Special Operations Command). Strider also acknowledges that he has never had any combat experience with any branch of the U.S. Military or U.S.Government Agencies, nor has he participated in any "Black Ops". Strider served in 2/75, but never graduated Ranger School. Strider lost all rank, was barred from re-enlistment and was discharged from the Military as a Private.

Mickey Strider is Basicly a criminal and conman who's sole purpose is to part with your money and other's in real combat who struggle everyday

For more Go to www.coldsteel.com/strider.html
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Tell me, why should i care about the Mike Strider's criminal record and military file? I buy a knife, not an amulet. I don't have to verify the chaman is a saint man.

dantzk.
 
flatgrinder said:
It's all about Marketing. You price high, you create the "illusion" of a superior product.

Personally, I'd rather spend my money on a Busse Combat knife or a Dozier. I like to buy from guys who have integrity, many years of experience, can produce a superior product and justify the cost. Not from a thieving car jacker who lies and overcharges for a piece of steel that has a low grade finish with a cord wrap -that in itself is daylight robbery.

IMHO, a Strider is like a "fantasy" knife, they don't cut well, you can't beat the hell out of them, and if you really want to mess someone up, a $3 "made in China" machete will work just fine. Of the percentage of people who buy Stiders who actually use them, how many use them in a tactical situation? As for their folders, a Sebenza is a better knife -and is a lot cheaper.

Basically, I guess if you've got the dough, it's nice to add something "different" to your collection, but in terms of real world applications, there are a lot of better choices out there at a better price.
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whatever dude lol.

yep, wofmann, i love seeing one maker crap on another, perhaps some envy or bias in there, huh??

personally, i look for the most expensive/crummiest knife to buy, if a felon made it, so much the better lol.

sebenza my rear end lol.
 
You would have to go to his Forum at Badlands and ask him.
Learn the lingo first its a very different sort of site.
 
I don't believe Strider Knives were marketed as the Ferrari class- ever. If so, I'd be runnng a performance and aesthetics comparison of Strider Knives against the field of what you guys reckon are the 'Ferrari class', No! The impression I get is that his products are more of the Hummer/Range Rover class.Correct me if I'm wrong here.
flatgrinder said:
Let's see what you can make with 2 years of on and off knifemaking experience in a 3' x 3' room with just a Grizzly Grinder. You can buy one of these grinders for $395. Why don't you pick one up instead of a Strider and see what you can do? You're probably one of these kids with daddy's money, driving daddys' BMW, pretending you're some "tough guy" because you got a Strider. :jerkit: Why don't you try making a knife, instead of buying one? Because you fall for B.S.

Strider's grinds are easy. I know what goes into knifemaking because I am a knifemaker. I know what they should charge, but somewhere along the B.S. that Mick has fed the general public, he's created that "Louis Vuitton" mentality for people to think that they're buying something more valuable than they are. They're basically buying a cord wrapped, sand blasted piece of metal. Not a lot of fit and finish has gone into the making of their knives yet they charge a premium.

The "Ferrari" of knives makers I can think of are makers such as: Bob Loveless, Bill Moran and other greats. Mick Strider ain't one of them, he isn't even in the same league. His fit and finish isn't as good, and most importantly to me: he lacks integrity and is full of B.S.

He built a reputation on lies, if he were just a regular knifemaker I wouldn't have any problem with him or his company He said he was a Ranger -but in actual fact, he wasn't. This is an unethical way to get a step up on other knifemakers and disrespects all those who are Rangers. Just a guy who likes to B.S.
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flatgrinder said:
He built a reputation on lies, if he were just a regular knifemaker I wouldn't have any problem with him or his company He said he was a Ranger -but in actual fact, he wasn't. This is an unethical way to get a step up on other knifemakers and disrespects all those who are Rangers. Just a guy who likes to B.S.
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You need to go check your facts on that one. He was a member of 2 Ranger Battalion
 
Yep, he certainly was. Of course, he was only in the 2/75 for 65 days including in & out processing, so I don't know if that is worth bragging about. And he did lie about being a combat vet. And then there's the whole "he was a member of SOCOM / JSOC" thing.
 
Razorburn, much of what you repeat is a distortion of the facts and comes to conclusions not supported by any public information. There are certain facts that no one is disputing, and which was revealed by the party involved but conclusions as to character, combat experience, et al based on opinion need to be expressed as such - which is off topic. We're talking about why Strider knives are priced for what the market will bear, and it's been explained.

Just another example of the bias generated by some to drag out a personal diagreement over qualifications. Mature individuals have withheld any final conclusions because experience has taught them to wait for the whole story. As this sad vendetta plays out, I have noticed that each of the facts is being slowly confirmed by reality - Mick Strider was a Ranger, etc., like it or not - and the things that are disputed most hotly are the unjustified conclusions from those who have taken up the burden to be offended for the majority.

If you bother to read the hundreds of posts on the subject, you will see why there is more heat than light on the subject by those who will not address the matter directly, but hide behind the excuse that this constitutes a public offense, so they play it out publicly.

Not the way men in my generation were taught to handle things, but certainly the way I see youthful thugs act out in the streets.
 
The conclusions as to character are only too readily apparrent from the actions of the person being discussed. Mature individuals will realize that behavior such as what we've seen is inexcusable from someone that bills themselves as having the "credentials" they claim to... and that the facts have shown they do not have these credentials only further speaks to their character.

I will agree though, we've seen an abundance of "thuggish" behavior, but that's to be expected from thugs. Otherwise, the blatant hypocrisy shown by his supporters borders on the surreal.
 
I take exception to the idea that you can decide what is "inexcusable" behavior for me or the knife community. I decide for myself, and stated I am withholding my conclusions until all the facts are checked and verified, as are many others. As a Retired Reservist veteran, with an Infantry MOS and active duty MP role in the current conflict, I rely on my interpretation of certain statements more than yours. Combat arms is a different world.

Taking on the role of self appointed director of public knife ethics and military service, and then offering financial inducements to his opponents for information appears to me as being blatant hypocrisy. You are bringing more contention to the process than truth, just as a certain commercial competitor of Strider's has of late.

Even Boats got the message.

I understand we agree to disagree, and time will tell.
 
Wow, this use to be such a fun place to visit.

It's a shame the owner of BF and certain other makers (ie Cold Steel) have such envy for Strider. This constant bashing is really turning alot of people off. I'm starting to regret getting my Gold membership here.

BF is a successful venture. Alot of hard work went into making it one of the best on the web. But enough already with Strider. You guys don't need to tear someone else down to feel good about yourselves.

As for companies like Cold Steel, shame on you. This thread is an obvious ploy by you to attack Strider Knives. And Wabajack, please don't continue to lie about who you are. Again, it's obvious you are connected to Cold Steel, maybe even the owner. It's also a shame that you sucker others into you con.
 
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Striders are well made and designed to last. IMHO however they are not designed to cut. With a lot of work one can reprofile the edge. I have a Strider MFS(my first strider). Should be called MLS (my last strider). I really like it now that I have given it a convex edge. Strider - not worth the money by any means but it is a nice knife all the same. Marketing and all those weird and useless grinds make it overpriced but under designed. Nightmare grind----what is that about? Only thing nightmarish is the price!!!
 
If one goes to the FAQ drop down on the Strider web-site and then clicks on "Who is Strider", one comes upi with a blank screen. No more Bios.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's because the "un-official" FAQ there had people listed as combat vets with all sorts of other neat things. Suddenly it disappeared though.

Oh, ok tirod3. For someone withholding their conclusions until all the facts are in, your posts certainly tell a different story. So, if you are going to rely on facts, please direct your attention to the following:
http://www.bladeforums.com/burger1.jpg
http://www.bladeforums.com/burger2.jpg
http://www.bladeforums.com/burger3.jpg

Please show for me where, in those FOIA requested documents regarding Mick Strider's military service, where there's any record of combat service?

I will, however, request that you not talk shit about my combat arms service since I've got 3 times as much as the person you are defending.

But hey, I'm waiting eagerly how it's "excusable" to claim "combat vet" status when your military record shows none. I'd love to hear how carjacking fits into the Ranger Creed. Please, educate me on how going AWOL is leading the way.
 
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