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hookahhabib said:
Considering how lax enforcement of counterfeit laws are, I can't imagine many better ways to have handled this situation, besides maybe mentioning the whole incident to BLADE organizers so as to make sure that the vendor is never welcomed back. Considering how much counterfeits hurt our knife community and industry, I love the way they handled the situation. If that makes me a degenerate POS, then so be it I guess...

With all due respect, I can't help but wonder if you'd be responding this way if it was any other maker involved. Can't help but wonder about whatever double standards may or may not be at play here.

Also there were a few other respected people involved in this situation and putting it all on Mick doesn't seem very cool to me. Regardless of whatever BS happened because of a thread posted over 10 years ago, my brief experiences with him show he's a pretty decent human being. Questionable marketing aside (and also long past?), his designs and work speak for themselves and the fact that he continues to stand by his products is worthy of at least some merit, IMHO.
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^ :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Since 9/11 I've been fortunate to have met several USMC hero's from Camp Pendleton (guys who made multiple deployments over to the M.E.). These guys were very appreciative, the fact that Strider Knives gave so many knives to the men who were laying their lives on the line, fighting and dying for our Country.

You won't read about any of this here, because Strider Knives was working and offering this behind the scene's- supporting our Troops.

I don't think Strider gives a rat's a-- about what a bunch of people who live camped out under their shelter half in front of their computer all day...keystroking big word's, think. Guy's who are probably on some type of permanent disability (mental health issues), taking anti-depressants, getting a free ride/paycheck, and stay home all day. The same type of person, the color yellow, makes sad. v



Peter Hartwig said:
Strider is not closing due to lack of success. It has been very successful regardless of the controversy. It was a partnership and both partners now have moved on to their own companies. Since neither partner planed to be involved with running Strider Knives they felt it fitting to close( there may be more to it, but that is the official memo). They will continue on making knives just not together. Mick Strider will continue to make variations of his designs (production, mid tech and custom).Duane seems to have modified the design he is using, thus removing the need to license from Mick Strider. You are in no way getting rid of the 2 behind Strider knives, just the Strider knives name.[/QUOTE]

^ :thumbsup::thumbsup:

wheelgunrambo said:
Thanks for all the response and I have enjoyed the drama. I still would like to know if anyone knows anything concrete about what is happening with strider? Like a press release type of thing. Other than micks initial and the "25 and out" crap they sold, is there anything official?
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^ I'm sure you have.

You probably didn't know this either, Rambo: Col. Sam Trautman, carried a Strider. :cool:
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Does that invalidate the facts? Nope. But good marketing. Funny all of their "secret" charity work finds its way to be known. Big coincidence I guess.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
I have not seen any new official word nor new stock as of yet.

On SnG-I keep my thinking pretty simple. Makers get to name their knives and this model is the SnG, just as the Sebenza is not the Sabenza. The concepts behind those names are the makers.
That said it is a fairly minor mistake and if you were to check out dealers and even the Strider website(or at least it used to be there) you would find the same mistake. Making it sng out of protest is obviously not a mistake.
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Well considering strider has no respect, I will forever refer to is as a sNg. Regardless of my joke, changing the spelling of a word is imho a whole lot different than not using capital letters. Now I realize military vets take spelling and grammar very seriously in regards to legitimate military terms. And they should. But micks insistence on carrying over that military tradition into his marketing only adds insult to injury.
 
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KELAMA said:
^ :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Since 9/11 I've been fortunate to have met several USMC hero's from Camp Pendleton (guys who made multiple deployments over to the M.E.). These guys were very appreciative, the fact that Strider Knives gave so many knives to the men who were laying their lives on the line, fighting and dying for our Country.

You won't read about any of this here, because Strider Knives was working and offering this behind the scene's- supporting our Troops.

I don't think Strider gives a rat's a-- about what a bunch of people who live camped out under their shelter half in front of their computer all day...keystroking big word's, think. Guy's who are probably on some type of permanent disability (mental health issues), taking anti-depressants, getting a free ride/paycheck, and stay home all day. The same type of person, the color yellow, makes sad. v

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Well kelama, when it comes to bloviating on subjects you know nothing about you never seem to disappoint. There is no way to get a free ride on social security. Its a benefit for those who paid into it genius. People on disability only get what they are entitled to based on how much they worked. Its funny how those who oppose medications are also the ones who could likely benefit from it the most. I guess it doesnt matter though. By the looks of your strider white knighting all i really have to do is fake my past and all will be forgiven.
 
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KELAMA said:
^ :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Since 9/11 I've been fortunate to have met several USMC hero's from Camp Pendleton (guys who made multiple deployments over to the M.E.). These guys were very appreciative, the fact that Strider Knives gave so many knives to the men who were laying their lives on the line, fighting and dying for our Country.

You won't read about any of this here, because Strider Knives was working and offering this behind the scene's- supporting our Troops.

I don't think Strider gives a rat's a-- about what a bunch of people who live camped out under their shelter half in front of their computer all day...keystroking big word's, think. Guy's who are probably on some type of permanent disability (mental health issues), taking anti-depressants, getting a free ride/paycheck, and stay home all day. The same type of person, the color yellow, makes sad. v

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These keyboard commandos on social security who complain about strider who don't know what they are talking about, you wouldn't be talking about the bfc owner who put together the large facts based documented posted earlier in this thread?

If you like strider, fine. But you can't deny what that the scumbage did and how disrespectful it is. I wonder if those troops know the facts the rest of us do.
 
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If the sng was meant to commemorate those two hero's then it shouldn't be in secret. I'd rather see strider name the knife literally the Shughart and Gordon tribute knife than the sng. But for reasons I mentioned earlier, that isn't what he chose to name the knife.

Donating a portion of every sale of an sng to their families would stand out as an honorable thing. But just naming the knife sng and capitalizing S and G means squat, especially considering story that was fabricated. I think they used it as a veil marketing scheme.

Frank, just so you know, sng is a model of knife strider makes and that's what we are discussing.
 
Although I have my own opinion on the guy, I think its up to the people who have served to pass judgement on what he has done and wether it's worthy of forgiveness or not.

I will say however, that Honoring Shughart and Gordon is absolutely the right thing to do, we all should. Just don't do it with a crappy knife that has more excuses than I can count. "Its just a Strider thing", I cant believe we except that.
 
Tjohnson4845 said:
Although I have my own opinion on the guy, I think its up to the people who have served to pass judgement on what he has done and wether it's worthy of forgiveness or not.

I will say however, that Honoring Shughart and Gordon is absolutely the right thing to do, we all should. Just don't do it with a crappy knife that has more excuses than I can count. "Its just a Strider thing", I cant believe we except that.
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I served and in my opinion he's a piece of crap.
 
Ok, so I know its been a couple weeks since anyone posted on this thread but I got a response to an email I sent to Josh at Strider.

My Email:
"Can you let me know what the future of strider knives is? There is lots of speculation on the forums so I thought I would just shoot you and email directly. Are you still producing knives? Change in location, owner? Any info would be great. Big fan. Thanks"

Josh's Response (I was really surprised to get a response):
"Hello,
We are still making knives and we will still warranty all of our knives
Thanks,"

I have been a blind fan of strider products for several years having been new to "expensive" knives. I was really hoping there was a way around all the crap but after this response I have already sold some of my knives and am no longer a fan.

My Follow up email:
"What happened to "25 and out" and "last knives will be sold at blade show"? Just wondering if it was all a rouse?"

After a week or so there is still no response to my last question. Just thought I should put this out there. They lied to their base and wont be getting any money from me in the future. No longer a fan due to really crappy business ethics.
 
Thanks for posting this brother. We all kinda knew it was a goof, but that response really seals the deal.
Wonder how many knives that debacle sold.
Joe

wheelgunrambo said:
Ok, so I know its been a couple weeks since anyone posted on this thread but I got a response to an email I sent to Josh at Strider.

My Email:
"Can you let me know what the future of strider knives is? There is lots of speculation on the forums so I thought I would just shoot you and email directly. Are you still producing knives? Change in location, owner? Any info would be great. Big fan. Thanks"

Josh's Response (I was really surprised to get a response):
"Hello,
We are still making knives and we will still warranty all of our knives
Thanks,"

I have been a blind fan of strider products for several years having been new to "expensive" knives. I was really hoping there was a way around all the crap but after this response I have already sold some of my knives and am no longer a fan.

My Follow up email:
"What happened to "25 and out" and "last knives will be sold at blade show"? Just wondering if it was all a rouse?"

After a week or so there is still no response to my last question. Just thought I should put this out there. They lied to their base and wont be getting any money from me in the future. No longer a fan due to really crappy business ethics.
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wheelgunrambo said:
Ok, so I know its been a couple weeks since anyone posted on this thread but I got a response to an email I sent to Josh at Strider.

My Email:
"Can you let me know what the future of strider knives is? There is lots of speculation on the forums so I thought I would just shoot you and email directly. Are you still producing knives? Change in location, owner? Any info would be great. Big fan. Thanks"

Josh's Response (I was really surprised to get a response):
"Hello,
We are still making knives and we will still warranty all of our knives
Thanks,"

I have been a blind fan of strider products for several years having been new to "expensive" knives. I was really hoping there was a way around all the crap but after this response I have already sold some of my knives and am no longer a fan.

My Follow up email:
"What happened to "25 and out" and "last knives will be sold at blade show"? Just wondering if it was all a rouse?"

After a week or so there is still no response to my last question. Just thought I should put this out there. They lied to their base and wont be getting any money from me in the future. No longer a fan due to really crappy business ethics.
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I have no way of knowing how it all plays out, but I think you needed to be more specific with your ?. Such as will you still be making knives under the Strider name or will all future knives be under the MSC name. The ? was a bit vague and he responded with a vague answer. Your follow up gets more to the point-I don't see how they can give a response to that and not answer, but they may find a way.

Actually I will correct myself-Your ? wasn't too vague-but the answer was.
 
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Jeesh, don't be surprised the lying, stolen valor, scumbag lied to sell more knives. I am surprised that you're surprised. Actually, I take that back, with the fools that have been coming and going lately I am NOT surprised.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
I have no way of knowing how it all plays out, but I think you needed to be more specific with your ?. Such as will you still be making knives under the Strider name or will all future knives be under the MSC name. The ? was a bit vague and he responded with a vague answer. Your follow up gets more to the point-I don't see how they can give a response to that and not answer, but they may find a way.

Actually I will correct myself-Your ? wasn't too vague-but the answer was.
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I think it is pretty simple. NO real change. The company is still there the equipment and people that make the knives are still there. Maybe a new building location but companies to that all the time. 25 and out of my business.
 
^^^ There are certainly aspects of this that don't seem to be what they said was going to happen. If they are still manufacturing under the Strider name or even the MSC name and doing the same production with the same crew, it would not look good for the company or the owner at all IMO. They indicated something more dramatic was happening. There would have been nothing wrong with making such a move, but that is not what their press release implied. As for the customer though I don't have a great amount of sympathy. They either bought a knife they wanted and now have, which shouldn't be a problem or were speculating they could flip and make a bunch of money off others, which though a problem I don't care-it's called speculating for a reason.
Given time what is happening will become crystal clear, and I will just wait rather then try to make a determination without all the data. Others can do or think what they want. They could have sold the company and given the money to orphan children and the Strider haters would find something wrong with it. They are pissed off and will always be pissed off. I see nothing changing that.
In any event I have no plans to sell my knife. No matter what my final opinion of the company may be, I like my knife.
 
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