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Standard78 said:
Oh I understand all of that.
My point was that there's a possibility that they would've sold more product if that dark cloud wasn't above them.
Personally, if I had a company that was highly successful compared to just being successful, there's no way in hell I would close the doors.
The mid tech line could sell at high rates while being built and managed extra employees, while the two owners did their own builds.
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They were running Strider knives separately, but have now chosen not to do that.
Just a thought, but the not selling the company may be due to design rights. Anyone buying probably would want exclusive rights to Mick's designs, which would leave him out.
It is very hard to say what would be without the stolen valor saga. It may have given them enough sales during the early years to keep them going, may not have mattered, or may have been more about his ego then marketing. I assume it gave them some press prior to discovery, and certainly loads of press after. People may not like them, but they know who they are.
 
John_0917 said:
Anyone else read the "story" on the green forum about the Strider gang confronting a guy selling fakes at Blade? As a trademark holder, your recourse against counterfeit merchandise is a civil matter...

What Mickey claims he did is basically strong arm robbery, something he's obv familiar with (or was it carjacking?).
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Can you point me to this? I don't know what you are referring to as the green forum and I needs ma gossip.
 
Icehawk said:
Can you point me to this? I don't know what you are referring to as the green forum and I needs ma gossip.
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He is referring to USN forum. You need to be approved to be a member and view the forum.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
They were running Strider knives separately, but have now chosen not to do that.
Just a thought, but the not selling the company may be due to design rights. Anyone buying probably would want exclusive rights to Mick's designs, which would leave him out.
It is very hard to say what would be without the stolen valor saga. It may have given them enough sales during the early years to keep them going, may not have mattered, or may have been more about his ego then marketing. I assume it gave them some press prior to discovery, and certainly loads of press after. People may not like them, but they know who they are.
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True.
I'm just speaking in hypotheticals.
As far as the design rights issue goes, I'd drop the bullshit ego and make a deal where I'd receive a small percentage of sales.
Their mid tech line of knives were ridiculously user friendly even for lefties like myself. The factory edge angles sucked, but they were solid knives.
I'd be a buyer if a company like ZT took over and kept the design and materials the same.
 
Icehawk said:
Ah thanks, maybe a member there can cut & paste some relevant posts? We need more Strider drama ASAP
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That would be cross forum drama and this not allowed. Discussing what happened at blade despite it being discussed elsewhere first is one thing. Reposting drama from another forum would get one of us boot to ass pretty qucikly.
 
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Standard78 said:
True.
I'm just speaking in hypotheticals.
As far as the design rights issue goes, I'd drop the bullshit ego and make a deal where I'd receive a small percentage of sales.
Their mid tech line of knives were ridiculously user friendly even for lefties like myself. The factory edge angles sucked, but they were solid knives.
I'd be a buyer if a company like ZT took over and kept the design and materials the same.
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ZT seems to be everyone's favorite choice.
I think there is more to it then we have been allowed to see or hear, but I doubt that will change. They can be pretty tight lipped . I once asked (on USN)how many employees they had just to get a feel for their size. You would have thought I had asked for the nuclear security codes :). One Response was none of my business. I remember others not being as nice. But they were right it wasn't any of my business no matter how curious I might have been-same holds true here.
When I referred to mid tech, I was actually referring to the MSC performance line, but terms are debatable
 
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I guess some people just enjoy being mistreated. Personally, if I asked an honest question and was spoken to like I was a child...guess who never gets a red cent of my money again?

Shrug, anyone who makes a decent knife with a cnc can sell blades and be a lying sack of crap who treats customers like vermin AND still have a following LOLOLOL wow.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
ZT seems to be everyone's favorite choice.
I think there is more to it then we have been allowed to see or hear, but I doubt that will change. They can be pretty tight lipped . I once asked (on USN)how many employees they had just to get a feel for their size. You would have thought I had asked for the nuclear security codes :). One Response was none of my business. I remember others not being as nice. But they were right it wasn't any of my business no matter how curious I might have been-same holds true here.
When I referred to mid tech, I was actually referring to the MSC performance line, but terms are debatable
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Wow.
A bunch of nobodies thinking they're somebodies.
Maybe it's good they're disappearing into the sunset.
I'd say their custom work looks cool, but I'd be lying.
 
"I think there is more to it then we have been allowed to see or hear, but I doubt that will change. They can be pretty tight lipped . I once asked (on USN)how many employees they had just to get a feel for their size. You would have thought I had asked for the nuclear security codes :). One Response was none of my business. I remember others not being as nice. But they were right it wasn't any of my business no matter how curious I might have been-same holds true here."

Guess I stepped in with that statement
It was not meant as a complaint-they are just reluctant to talk about the company. Thus I would not be amazed if details of this change are being left out.
 
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Why the edit out, Peter? It just said you like the sng and you'd be sacrificing if you gave it up lol Obviously it's worth it to you. No need to hide it.
 
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It's in print elsewhere-said it at least a few times before. I just decided to keep my statement to a simple response. I edit all the time when I feel I can say it better or I have said more then I really need to(which was the case here).
By the way it is SnG :)
 
Thanks for all the response and I have enjoyed the drama. I still would like to know if anyone knows anything concrete about what is happening with strider? Like a press release type of thing. Other than micks initial and the "25 and out" crap they sold, is there anything official?
 
I'm aware of Shughart and Gordon, I feel the sng is a slap in their face by a wannabe commando who never went to Somalia. As a former soldier who deployed, the fact mick burger used their name at all is disgusting. Guy does 11 months in the army and never deploys but has a "documentary" on youtube calling himself a commando. Burger is a wannabe and making the S and G capital gives ZERO homage to the soldiers who died.

The irony is, strider guys push the capital letter thing for respect. The use of their name at all by a pretend commando who built his business on lies he was in Somalia is the UPMOST DISRESPECTFUL thing.


Forgive me if I don't care to follow strider rules "for respect". I respect the men that gave their life by continuing to spread the word on mick burger. That is showing them more respect than simply making a capital S and G.

So please, keep the SnG hogwash to youself. Some nerve.
 
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Further more, if you cared to honor Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon or show them respect or whatever, you could do so in a better way than supporting mick burger and capitalizing S and G.
Peter Hartwig said:
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It's in print elsewhere-said it at least a few times before. I just decided to keep my statement to a simple response. I edit all the time when I feel I can say it better or I have said more then I really need to(which was the case here).
By the way it is SnG :)
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And wasn't it supposed to be a secret? Why secretly honor someone? Weird.
 
Armadew said:
And wasn't it supposed to be a secret? Why secretly honor someone? Weird.
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They do it in secret because the attention it would bring if done openly, would be embarrassing for a guy who openly lied about being in Somalia.
 
wheelgunrambo said:
Thanks for all the response and I have enjoyed the drama. I still would like to know if anyone knows anything concrete about what is happening with strider? Like a press release type of thing. Other than micks initial and the "25 and out" crap they sold, is there anything official?
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I have not seen any new official word nor new stock as of yet.

On SnG-I keep my thinking pretty simple. Makers get to name their knives and this model is the SnG, just as the Sebenza is not the Sabenza. The concepts behind those names are the makers.
That said it is a fairly minor mistake and if you were to check out dealers and even the Strider website(or at least it used to be there) you would find the same mistake. Making it sng out of protest is obviously not a mistake.
 
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