Strider Marketing Joke

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Anyone else read the "story" on the green forum about the Strider gang confronting a guy selling fakes at Blade? As a trademark holder, your recourse against counterfeit merchandise is a civil matter...

What Mickey claims he did is basically strong arm robbery, something he's obv familiar with (or was it carjacking?).
 
That's hilarious... Even better was the explicit threats SOE Gear owner was making on the people who run "knifehaterz".
 
PURPLEDC said:
I don't like that someone was selling counterfeits at blade. Its almost as bad as fabricating your service history. :cool:



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Someone did in fact sell fakes at Blade.....

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Good thing, the "mercenary group" led by a tough guy who did less than a year in the army was there to save the day. Just goes to show, those pretend commandos actually believe their own lies.

Funny.
 
John_0917 said:
Anyone else read the "story" on the green forum about the Strider gang confronting a guy selling fakes at Blade? As a trademark holder, your recourse against counterfeit merchandise is a civil matter...

What Mickey claims he did is basically strong arm robbery, something he's obv familiar with (or was it carjacking?).
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I didnt hear about this. What did ol micky do?
 
I've checked all the dealers they use and I still do not see any new stock besides some fixed blades and customs
 
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At BLADE I was gonna go up and say "Pleasure to meet you Mr. Burger" but he was busy and quite frankly I don't care enough about him to remember his face well. I ended up bugging a younger guy about lock stick or there lack of.

They told me about the same thing as the OP.
 
John_0917 said:
Anyone else read the "story" on the green forum about the Strider gang confronting a guy selling fakes at Blade? As a trademark holder, your recourse against counterfeit merchandise is a civil matter...

What Mickey claims he did is basically strong arm robbery, something he's obv familiar with (or was it carjacking?).
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Considering how lax enforcement of counterfeit laws are, I can't imagine many better ways to have handled this situation, besides maybe mentioning the whole incident to BLADE organizers so as to make sure that the vendor is never welcomed back. Considering how much counterfeits hurt our knife community and industry, I love the way they handled the situation. If that makes me a degenerate POS, then so be it I guess...

With all due respect, I can't help but wonder if you'd be responding this way if it was any other maker involved. Can't help but wonder about whatever double standards may or may not be at play here.

Also there were a few other respected people involved in this situation and putting it all on Mick doesn't seem very cool to me. Regardless of whatever BS happened because of a thread posted over 10 years ago, my brief experiences with him show he's a pretty decent human being. Questionable marketing aside (and also long past?), his designs and work speak for themselves and the fact that he continues to stand by his products is worthy of at least some merit, IMHO.
 
hookahhabib said:
Considering how lax enforcement of counterfeit laws are, I can't imagine many better ways to have handled this situation, besides maybe mentioning the whole incident to BLADE organizers so as to make sure that the vendor is never welcomed back. Considering how much counterfeits hurt our knife community and industry, I love the way they handled the situation. If that makes me a degenerate POS, then so be it I guess...

With all due respect, I can't help but wonder if you'd be responding this way if it was any other maker involved. Can't help but wonder about whatever double standards may or may not be at play here.

Also there were a few other respected people involved in this situation and putting it all on Mick doesn't seem very cool to me. Regardless of whatever BS happened because of a thread posted over 10 years ago, my brief experiences with him show he's a pretty decent human being. Questionable marketing aside (and also long past?), his designs and work speak for themselves and the fact that he continues to stand by his products is worthy of at least some merit, IMHO.
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Decent human or not, he falsified his service record to boost sales for knives that didn't need a boost.
I'm probably overshooting my estimate here, but I bet he would've sold twice the amount of knives if he wasn't a valor thief, and I'm betting the company would still be in business because there would be absolutely no reason to close with that kind of success.
I've owned Striders both before I knew about his wrongdoings and after. I couldn't stomach owning any of them after knowing the truth.
 
Standard78 said:
Decent human or not, he falsified his service record to boost sales for knives that didn't need a boost.
I'm probably overshooting my estimate here, but I bet he would've sold twice the amount of knives if he wasn't a valor thief, and I'm betting the company would still be in business because there would be absolutely no reason to close with that kind of success.
I've owned Striders both before I knew about his wrongdoings and after. I couldn't stomach owning any of them after knowing the truth.
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Strider is not closing due to lack of success. It has been very successful regardless of the controversy. It was a partnership and both partners now have moved on to their own companies. Since neither partner planed to be involved with running Strider Knives they felt it fitting to close( there may be more to it, but that is the official memo). They will continue on making knives just not together. Mick Strider will continue to make variations of his designs (production, mid tech and custom).Duane seems to have modified the design he is using, thus removing the need to license from Mick Strider. You are in no way getting rid of the 2 behind Strider knives, just the Strider knives name.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
Strider is not closing due to lack of success. It has been very successful regardless of the controversy. It was a partnership and both partners now have moved on to their own companies. Since neither partner planed to be involved with running Strider Knives they felt it fitting to close( there may be more to it, but that is the official memo). They will continue on making knives just not together. Mick Strider will continue to make variations of his designs (production, mid tech and custom).Duane seems to have modified the design he is using, thus removing the need to license from Mick Strider. You are in no way getting rid of the 2 behind Strider knives, just the Strider knives name.
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Oh I understand all of that.
My point was that there's a possibility that they would've sold more product if that dark cloud wasn't above them.
Personally, if I had a company that was highly successful compared to just being successful, there's no way in hell I would close the doors.
The mid tech line could sell at high rates while being built and managed extra employees, while the two owners did their own builds.
 
Lapedog said:
I actually like the Strider knives, which is why all the BS behind the company is a shame.
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I agree. Particularly some of the early knives displayed useful designs and innovative features. And I've never held a Strider that wasn't ruggedly constructed. Once the lies were exposed, however, that was it for me. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Lapedog said:
I just honestly wonder if Strider would have become a "household" name without the BS marketing.
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I doubt it. We'll never know, though, because the company and the lies were inextricably linked from the very beginning. The first few articles that I read introducing Strider Knives were nothing but fairy tales--granted, they read like fairy tales, but the magazine editors had sufficient connections to vet the claims. Those articles never should have been published. The fact that they appeared in industry magazines was tacit approval and verification, and the public (myself included, along with executives at Buck, Surefire, and a host of others) bought the lie.

For what it's worth to the original thread, at Blade this year Dwyer's booth was adjacent to Burger's, which was adjacent to Blue Line Gear's. The occupants of all three booths, along with a gaggle of cool-kid/tough-guy hangers-on, were hanging out quite chummily. By midday on Saturday, no production Striders were available at any of those three booths. Almost no customs were left, either. Whether true or not, I guess the announcement of the demise of Strider Knives had its intended effect.

-Steve
 
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