Strider vs. Manix

then you should get to work talking to people in the knife community... outside this forum.

now... mike, this conversation is becoming innapropriate for this forum... if you want to discuss this further then do it privatly.
 
No, it was inappropriate for you to say it in the first place, and then refuse to back it up, just like your claim about what your SNG can do.

Try confining your comments to subject you can actually back up, and you won't have this problem in the future.
 
mike_mck2 said:
No, it was inappropriate for you to say it in the first place, and then refuse to back it up, just like your claim about what your SNG can do.

Try confining your comments to subject you can actually back up, and you won't have this problem in the future.
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ok... Back up your statements about what my SnG cannot do.
 
benchmademan said:
ok... Back up your statements about what my SnG cannot do.
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I have not made any claims about your SNG. I did say that MY SNG tapered towards the handle and it was backwards. Is your SNG somehow different?

I would be glad to test your SNG as well, and backup any claims about it as well. Starting with, I know I could get it to unlock by white knuckling & torquing it.


My address is:

Mike Mckinney
1606-B Garden Villa Dr.
Georgetown,TX 78628
 
How would I back up any claims about your SNG, if you won't send it to me?
At this point, I have now actually made a claim, although you yourself could test it if you were so inclined.

I am quite sure liner locks and frame locks can be torqued open, regardless of what anyone *thinks* just by looking at them, and I can't see any reason why the SNG would be the exception.
 
Yikes Mike. You make some good points, but perhaps some discretion would be warranted here. Posting your address may be a good place to start... :rolleyes:

I'm not sure which is better, but I bought a Manix. The price on the Strider is just too much for me. You can go through the first Manix and 3 backups before you get to the price of the Strider. Yikes...
 
3Guardsmen said:
Welcome aboard, I think. :confused:

I'm an advocate of always "honestly" purchasing knives. The dishonestly purchased ones just don't work as well. :D

So, instead of buying minutes for a pre-paid cell phone, I should buy a Strider? :thumbup:


3Guardsmen
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i didnt mean it like that, i meant striders are worth getting, if he ever plans on buying a strider he should not buy the other knife and then further on buy a strider.
 
I don't mean to be a wise guy...but IMO, FWIW... if you really need a stronger knife than the Manix, you might want to strongly consider a good sturdy fixed blade.
 
destroythealter said:
i didnt mean it like that, i meant striders are worth getting, if he ever plans on buying a strider he should not buy the other knife and then further on buy a strider.
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Why not? Maybe he'd like both? Why limit your options? I got a Manix while saving for an SnG or SMF, with every intention of still buying a Strider folder. Once I had enough money to buy an Sng or SMF, I went to a dealer I know who carries them, tried some out (spent hours in the Strider section), and just couldn't justify buying one. They're not bad knives at all. They just didn't fit my hand like the Manix, inspire more confidence than I have in the Manix's lock, have enough of a performance difference to justify the price. Because of the fact that the grip felt somewhat awkward to me, how could I possibly pay more for a knife that wouldn't give me the same personal perfomance (grip security) that my Manix gives me? But YMMV.

I just don't personally think an oversized pivot (IMHO, not an advantage because the pivot is not what breaks first on the Manix), a bead-blasted & striped blade (IMHO, not an advantage because its not as corrosion resistant as the satin-finished blade of the Manix), a Ti frame-lock (perhaps a "draw" on that one, but IMHO, I much prefer a steel lockback) are worth paying more money for. However, I buy knives with purely perfomance in mind. I don't doubt that the Striders are great knives, I just can't convince myself that they'd ever outperform my Manix. But YMMV. I say, thoroughly try out both knives and then decide which is best for you. Thats the best advice anybody can really offer, as both Striders and Spydercos are good knives.

If you want a Manix, try it, and if you like it, buy it. If you like a Strider folder, try it, and if you like it, buy it. If you want both, try them, and if you like them, buy them. :)

Best wishes,
3Guardsmen
 
Any strider fans that have not yet handled but are interested in a manix? The passaround manix is currently available. We could have a strider fane passaround maybe. :)
 
as an SNG owner, i have handled the Manix and it's a very nice knife. i'm sure it's a great value. i could certainly own it if i wanted to. it just didn't do much for me. i didn't like the way it fit my hand. i don't like the roughness of spyderco's G10 (although once it wears in it's not bad... i had a well-worn Dodo that i liked). i did love the grind on the blade. it just LOOKS sharp. given the Manix grind's similarity to the Paramilitary, i'd give the edge (pun intended) to Strider on the edge retention. i'm sure that's more of an issue of edge geometry. i don't like lockback's for hard use. i've had too many instances where i have inadvertently disengaged the lock, once resulting in a nice wound. i have never had a framelock fail.

that said, if a friend had $150 to spend on a good, hard-use folder, i'd probably recomend the Manix.
 
oldnbusted said:
... but i would also listen to the many people saying that the new product was great.
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Obviously yes. I don't really write off any steel, lock type or whatever. If someone one comes along and claims to have solved a problem and says so in a *public* forum, not some private email, with a guarantee of performance then I will be interested and usually willing to give it another try.

-Cliff
 
3Guardsmen said:
Why not? Maybe he'd like both? Why limit your options? I got a Manix while saving for an SnG or SMF, with every intention of still buying a Strider folder. Once I had enough money to buy an Sng or SMF, I went to a dealer I know who carries them, tried some out (spent hours in the Strider section), and just couldn't justify buying one. They're not bad knives at all. They just didn't fit my hand like the Manix, inspire more confidence than I have in the Manix's lock, have enough of a performance difference to justify the price. Because of the fact that the grip felt somewhat awkward to me, how could I possibly pay more for a knife that wouldn't give me the same personal perfomance (grip security) that my Manix gives me? But YMMV.

I just don't personally think an oversized pivot (IMHO, not an advantage because the pivot is not what breaks first on the Manix), a bead-blasted & striped blade (IMHO, not an advantage because its not as corrosion resistant as the satin-finished blade of the Manix), a Ti frame-lock (perhaps a "draw" on that one, but IMHO, I much prefer a steel lockback) are worth paying more money for. However, I buy knives with purely perfomance in mind. I don't doubt that the Striders are great knives, I just can't convince myself that they'd ever outperform my Manix. But YMMV. I say, thoroughly try out both knives and then decide which is best for you. Thats the best advice anybody can really offer, as both Striders and Spydercos are good knives.

If you want a Manix, try it, and if you like it, buy it. If you like a Strider folder, try it, and if you like it, buy it. If you want both, try them, and if you like them, buy them. :)

Best wishes,
3Guardsmen
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Sorry I was writting in a hurry last night and therefore unclearly. If he has to pick one for now he should get the strider because in my opinion/expirence there a bit more sturdy (i also think its a bit more stylish but I never buy knives because other people think they are more stylish). The manix is a good choice too, I just bought the manix after because i fell in love with the strider.
 
destroythealter said:
Sorry I was writting in a hurry last night and therefore unclearly. If he has to pick one for now he should get the strider because in my opinion/expirence there a bit more sturdy (i also think its a bit more stylish but I never buy knives because other people think they are more stylish). The manix is a good choice too, I just bought the manix after because i fell in love with the strider.
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Nothing wrong with that! :) As Sal Glesser would say, "all good, just different". As Mick Strider would say,
Mick Strider said:
Lick my sack loser!

m
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:foot: :D

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3305280&postcount=84


Oh, well, nevermind what Mick said, listen to what Sal says. ;)

Best wishes,
3Guardsmen

Edited to add: I inserted Mick's qoute to be funny.
 
Both knives will probably serve you well, but I recommend the Spyderco Manix over any Strider.

Why you ask?
Because of Sal Glesser.
The knife industry needs more folks like Mr. Glesser--he is a class act all the way.

As for Mick Strider...what can you say about a guy who belittles and insults his customer base?

Judging from what Strider has posted here on the forums, he has little regard for those who do not "worship at his altar".

In fact, I would now be ashamed to own a Strider knife.

Allen.
 
Yeah, this case is solved. Read something (anything?) from Mick Strider.

Compare with Sal.

That's all you need to know. Spyderco isn't perfect, but....come on. Have you read what Mick Strider wrote?
 
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