Super Steels vs Regular Steels

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DevinT said:
More trolling. Who is Larrin Sanders?

Hoss
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When I make an ass out of myself, I can admit it. Sorry. Don't know why i was thinking of him being someone else's son. Larrin Thomas, not Sanders. Don't know why i was thinking that. Your son is respected as you have been.

Doesn't negate a lot of what's been said, what's right is right regardless.
 
DevinT said:
Larrin Thomas is my son, Darrin Sanders is a knife maker.

If this testing is so important to you, I recommend you start a new thread and find the support you want.

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Yeah, I'm sure that's what i was thinking of.

If you question the man who's putting himself on the line, then maybe don't talk crap about him and instead figure out if he's doing something right or not. If so, help him overcome obstacles to benefit us all. You wouldn't have appreciated the internet when you got started in your business. It's easier to talk crap than it is to collaborate.

And yeah, I'd be a little biased too, if i was standing in your shoes.
 
I think this is one of the things that interest me about blade making and forging. Scientists might have a pretty good idea how something is made but they don't have all the answers. Otherwise we'd see the original Damascus steel being made, or like how Frank Richtig who I mentioned above did it. Just like cooking there's still that mystery to why someone blade can be drastically better then someone else's.
 
cbrstar said:
I think this is one of the things that interest me about blade making and forging. Scientists might have a pretty good idea how something is made but they don't have all the answers. Otherwise we'd see the original Damascus steel being made, or like how Frank Richtig who I mentioned above did it. Just like cooking there's still that mystery to why someone blade can be drastically better then someone else's.
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Bluntcut could easily send some coupons for testing
That would appease all the doubters
 
Anyone else feel like s30v is one of the most underrated steels out there? It seems like theres a ton of people who despise s30v, and want nothing to do with it and would just as soon take something like M390, S35VN, or whatever flavor of the month tool steel over it.

I know I wasn't really impressed with it either, but then I started sharpening it with CBN and diamond and started getting hair whittling edges like never before, even at 40° inclusive. Even though it went from hair popping to a working edge pretty quick, it's easy to strop it back to a hair shaving edge again.
 
OK , topic was Super steel vs Regular steel ? Well in my book super steel does not exist .To bear name super steel , steel need to be like Supermen ...............he must can do it all . When they make steel from which we can make bearing ,cutting tool for lathe ,hammer , axe , springs for the car suspension ,circular saw for steel , for wood .......etc That will be super steel :p
 
Personally, I feel as though metallurgical advancements have surpassed finding the desired material for making blades. Remember folks, steel is used to make knives pretty much lastly as far as industrial applications go...
 
brando555 said:
Anyone else feel like s30v is one of the most underrated steels out there? It seems like theres a ton of people who despise s30v, and want nothing to do with it and would just as soon take something like M390, S35VN, or whatever flavor of the month tool steel over it.

I know I wasn't really impressed with it either, but then I started sharpening it with CBN and diamond and started getting hair whittling edges like never before, even at 40° inclusive. Even though it went from hair popping to a working edge pretty quick, it's easy to strop it back to a hair shaving edge again.
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S30v holds a working edge for a long time. I guess it depends if you like to use it, or like to whittle hairs.;)
 
danbot said:
Science is better than alchemy.
I'll leave it at that because this thread has derailed way too far now.
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Hm....................what if alchemy can make gold from lead ? Would you ask how they do that or you will just take gold ;) Of course that science is better way but history prove that sometime alchemy win....:p:p
 
Someone1 said:
Then why are you here, trolling. If it's not what you want to hear about then you can go somewhere else that is? And did i take the issue off topic? Or did the creator of the thread decline to participate in discussion outside of the original post?

I see you for what you are, sir.
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Au contraire, dear chap.

The only trolling I have read in this thread has been from you and one other user.

The OP has repeatedly, patiently explained his reservations as to theory. Either you are too obtuse to understand the point, or you are trolling. Which is it?
 
brando555 said:
Anyone else feel like s30v is one of the most underrated steels out there? It seems like theres a ton of people who despise s30v, and want nothing to do with it and would just as soon take something like M390, S35VN, or whatever flavor of the month tool steel over it.

I know I wasn't really impressed with it either, but then I started sharpening it with CBN and diamond and started getting hair whittling edges like never before, even at 40° inclusive. Even though it went from hair popping to a working edge pretty quick, it's easy to strop it back to a hair shaving edge again.
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Don't really give two hot wet pineapples about hair whittling/popping.

Have chosen and will continue to choose a well executed m4 or 3v over most other offerings because (for me) it offers a great balance of attributes.

Especially so if you apply a bit of common sense.
 
trevitrace said:
Don't really give two hot wet pineapples about hair whittling/popping.

Have chosen and will continue to choose a well executed m4 or 3v over most other offerings because (for me) it offers a great balance of attributes.

Especially so if you apply a bit of common sense.
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Our different uses, preferred knives, sharpening methods, edge geometries, etc. all certainly change our perception of what steel is better than another.
 
Pilsner said:
Au contraire, dear chap.

The only trolling I have read in this thread has been from you and one other user.

The OP has repeatedly, patiently explained his reservations as to theory. Either you are too obtuse to understand the point, or you are trolling. Which is it?
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He just has a different opinion Not necessarily trolling. Differences in opinion and asking questions is an excellent thing.

I think that this thread has somewhat derailed from the original topic
 
Revolverrodger said:
He just has a different opinion Not necessarily trolling. Differences in opinion and asking questions is an excellent thing.

I think that this thread has somewhat derailed from the original topic
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No, he's not understanding why a scientist would have a problem getting involved with bluntcut, or he is trolling.

Testing something that can't be explained isn't science. It was said earlier in the thread, you can't just give the answer, you must show your work and it must make sense or you only get partial credit. Most of us learned that concept in grade school math class.
 
cbrstar said:
I think this is one of the things that interest me about blade making and forging. Scientists might have a pretty good idea how something is made but they don't have all the answers. Otherwise we'd see the original Damascus steel being made, or like how Frank Richtig who I mentioned above did it. Just like cooking there's still that mystery to why someone blade can be drastically better then someone else's.
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Observation alone can never establish proper scientific proof.

Real, indisputable knowledge, can only be gleaned from the decisive refutation of incorrect claims.
 
craytab said:
No, he's not understanding why a scientist would have a problem getting involved with bluntcut, or he is trolling.

Testing something that can't be explained isn't science. It was said earlier in the thread, you can't just give the answer, you must show your work and it must make sense or you only get partial credit. Most of us learned that concept in grade school math class.
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And I'll also add to this that the onus for proving your scientific theory is on the one making the claim. Then, a peer review process is conducted to look at the methods and conclusions. The problem here is the method is not clear.

And the funding is on the person doing the initial hypothesis. In the real world this is usually accomplished through grants or corporate backing, gathered by the one with the hypothesis. Some of the claims in this thread made by S1 show that he truly doesn't know how science works, just like bluntcut.
 
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