Survival knives!

GEC was the most helpful person here i think. thats what you do you dont look down at someone you compare yourself them they will like you much more and listen Thx pit dog and gec. i will pobibly get a friscers but if i only had one axe nothing else would all i want is a hatchet or a bigger axe.
 
Do NOT discount the K-Bar Large Bowie. It is my everyday knife in the kitchen and based on that experience alone, I'd grab it to survive anything anywhere in the world.
Almost no one has a better knife even at twice the price- well, the Falkniven S1 is better at twice the price.
 
GOD DAMN IS PIT DOG THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS WHAT IT IS LIKE BEING YOUNG!!!... Please read what he said and every time you read something that i wrote bring that back to mind.

I was thinking of a mora to but i wasnt sure of that steel is it good steal i also was woundering the steal that chris reeves used on his pacific is that any good as well

and another thing i have many hobbys one include collecting knives another is making and prapering survival kits for different situations so its not just something to show to my freinds it gos into one of my kits and when i do go camping i go for about 2 weeks and i want a nice knife that will hold up.

and i was also thinking of buying an axe also but if i were to buy an axe it would be mid size to large

and that juging a book by the cover yes i do not like that feature that i have if i were able to get rid of that habbit i would everyone has there drawbacks and if you dont have a drawback your lieing.

first of all please refrain from using offensive language unless you are either in the whine and cheese or the pirates cove where it is permitted.

secondly you have posted a request on survival knives in a public forum so you will receive a number of mixed responses. not all of them will be to your liking and the luxury of being on this forum is that you don't have to listen to what people suggest. you may pick and choose what you like and from what i can observe, pitdogs suggestion seems to have struck a chord with you so thats good.

third, many members of this forum have seen combat, been involved with search and rescue missions, and at one point or another struggled to survive with a knife. these people with experience in related fields are contributing their knowledge and helping to make informed decisions, at the very least they are taking the time to provide you with knowledge so please do not disrespect them.

with that said perhaps you should look into a red scorpion six survival knife. it has the attributes you are looking for. http://www.redscorpionsix.com/

either that or you can take a look at dark ops knives which may also fit the kinda knife your looking for. http://www.darkopsknives.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/catalog.html&setup=1&cart_id

JC

p.s. we all know what its like to be young, and as we grew up we learned from experiences as well as mistakes. therefore we try and help others with the knowledge we have gained so there is no need to ask us to recall what it was like being young.
 
But I will reccommend any Rat series made by Ontario. The Rat 5 and Rat 7. Both of them come with serrations or plain blade. I have the Rat7 and I put it through alot of crap.

I am impressed with the RAT-7 I have. I wanted something that could chop. I didn't need a filet knife, or a folder. I wanted something for serious camp work. The RAT knife fits the bill.
 
I certainly can remember what it was like being 14 years old. It wasn't fun. I had plenty of people available who could lecture and preach but no one who could pull my coat, tell me what was what, point out where I was heading toward quicksand in a way that would make sense to me, and also point out a better way to go in a way that would ring true.

And here I am, more than fifty years later, still working on many of those same things that I should have gotten straight when I was fourteen, still remembering the shame and anger and humiliation of mistakes made and wrong turns taken with no one to explain to me a better way in a way that would resonate with someone recognizing that things in general were seriously screwed up.

And they are still screwed up. Far more so now than they were when I was trying to make sense out of what I was being taught while in the throes of testosterone poisoning. I look back on most of my authority figures, my role models, my supposed mentors, my teachers, and I shake my head.

Yes, they were doing the best they knew how to do. And their best was sadly lacking in preparing me for what I am faced with today in a world crumbling around us as we speak in spite of all the denial and pretense to the contrary.

Looking for the ideal "survival" knife is an excellent metaphor for what we are all faced with today. It is a welcome escape to come to this forum and discuss the pros and cons of specific tools, the ifs and whens, as if things were going to keep going along like they always have. In my opinion they are not. In my opinion we are faced with far more unpleasantness than can be found in a Rambo movie or even a Road Warrior movie.

But it is quite natural for a fourteen year old to think of meeting such unpleasantness with a Rambo knife. And perhaps a Rambo knife might prove to be of more usefulness in times to come than a 401K or a Charles Schwab portfolio or an upscale address.

In any case if my view of things proves truer than that of the television prognosticators, perhaps there are available tools to meet the situation better suited than the Rambo knife. And if that is so, those with the best knowledge and understanding might best share that knowledge and understanding in a way that even a fourteen year old with limited life skills could understand and utilize.

As I remember it, fourteen year olds don't take kindly to being spoken down to. They are keenly aware of being a klutz in many areas and don't particularly like to have this rubbed in their face. If someone is willing to overlook their faults and give them a hand up, this is greatly appreciated, but such folks are few and far between, perhaps non-existant.

I didn't like those who preach and pontificate and patronize when I was fourteen and I still don't. It may stroke the ego but it is hardly an effective way to communicate. If we aren't able to bridge the gap between us and the current set of fourteen-year-olds, what possible future is there as our society and civilization itself collapses before our eyes?

When I was fourteen that gap couldn't be bridged by shouting and getting red in the face and pounding the table. In fact that only widened the gap. As far as I can tell that is still the same today.

I did a lot of dumb things when I was fourteen that I wish I hadn't done. I've done a lot of dumb things since then and now I find myself starting to do the kind of dumb things that old men do.

Personally I think we could all use a little slack.

:cool:
 
BG:

I think some of the words you used gave people the impression you were more interested in a knife that looked cool. People here are serious about using their tools and are entirely genuine about wanting to help you find a good knife.

Guys are just trying to stop you from wasting your time/money on junk. I have long ago learned not to give advice unless its asked for, but you did ask...

I happen to agree that you must buy something that appeals to YOU. If it 'speaks' to you, you will enjoy owning it far more. A 'survival' knife is not something you will use every day, but that won't stop you from taking it out of its sheath and admiring it in your bedroom. So what, I do that a lot with my knives. Aesthetics ARE important, I don't care what anyone says./

That said, I think the CRK Pacific is a pretty good choice. You could hardly go wrong with it. However, you said your budget was $150. A Pacific will run you double that./ You will find something cheaper that would serve just as well though.

Go and have a look around on the Exchange - there is a LOT of good stuff there every day. If you see something you like, buy it. I think you'll be much more likely to get something solid there, at a very good price. For example, I saw a Scrapyard Yard Guard going for $160 the other day. This is a serious knife, perfect for a survival scenario./ You can have a sheath custom made to your specs for it. And it sure as hell looks bad-ass to me. ; )

Otherwise, look out for these brands, know that prices will vary quite a bit:

Fallkniven
Bark River
Cold Steel
Chris Reeve
Scrap Yard
Swamp Rat
Busse
Ontario
Ranger
 
I think that wetterling makes one that is between both a hatchet and axe. I have used my fiskars hatchet for almost eveything from cutting, carving, shaving, making structures, and fuzzy sticks. It just works for me I guess. The last time I went camping I tried to use my hatchet for everything. Pratical? No, but it can be done if you have to.
 
Of the ones I own I would recommend:

Fallniven F1, S1 and Swamprat Ratmandu (they were originally $138 when available from the Swamp Rat company store but probably cost more than your $150 limit on the exchange where they appear frequently).
 
I like the Cold Steel line, but feel their San Mai knives are rip-offs. For most applications, the knife you choose will have to be based on weight, size, strength and steel. If you'll be in areas where there's lots of brush and wood, and you can manage the weight, a heavier knife may be desirable. If you're going to be in areas where weight is an issue, a light, strong knife will be preferred. I have Cold Steel, Ka-Bar, Bear & Son and even a Smith & Wesson Homeland Security Tanto ($30), which is NOT my least favorite knife. It's heavy and robust, but will clear small areas of brush, plus it cuts very well. Another, the Cold Steel G.I. Tanto, is exceptionally strong. The cord wrap also can come in handy in a survival setting. I prefer it over the Rangers because it has a hilt that keeps the hands from slipping over the blade. Oh, and finally, there's the Boker Plus Armed Forces Tanto, which has G10 grips and is made from 440C stainless.
 
well im sorry if i led you guys let me think that look are everything but i dnt think that, but every time someone tells me this is a good knife i will check into it its when someone says it is a not so good knife that i stay away from natch your words were insperational and i thank you. i dont really have anyone to talk to when it comes to knives or camping, my dad... he dosn't like knives that much and never gos camping. my brother is some help but knives he dosn't know that much. My grampa was the onlyone i could talk to and know that he knows what hes talking about but sadly about 3 months ago he pased away.... so thats why i joind this forum im sorry if i made yoyu guys feel like i wasn't listening but i am i joined this forum to hear what people had to say to the questions i asked.

I have choosen the knives that im goign to get for X-mas

Ka-Bar D2
Geber LMF III
Chris Reeves mountaineer II or his Shadow IV(i want the shadow I but $400!)
Leatherman wave

i was woundering what is better the mountaineer or the shadow they seem the same exept the point what is more usful in survival and why

later for my birthday (in 2-3 months) i probibly will get a mora.
 
i would say among the choices you've listed the leatherman wave is probably the one that will come in most handy. not only will it serve as a survival tool but it will also be a very nice EDC.

Cheers
 
Of the two, I would go for the spear point. Why? I just prefer 'em :D

I honestly don't think there would be much difference in practical terms.

However, and you probably don't want to hear this, I would recommend the Shadow III over the mid-size. Why? Take a look at the sheath it comes with.

If you plan to carry this knife, the pancake style sheath for the 4-inch Shadow is a lot more practical, and will allow you to conceal the knife easily. A 4 inch knife is a lot easier to carry than a 5,5 incher.

You may think 4 inches ain't much knife, but its plenty for most tasks around camp. And you have the Ka-Bar for chopping tasks, although a hatchet is far better suited to that action.

Don't rush off and buy everything you want at once. You have many years of collecting ahead of you. If you seriously want to carry and use the knife daily, get a smaller one. How much time are you going to spend camping, and how much just living 9 - 5?

When you have the $$$, you can get the Shadow I and you'll have an awesome matched set that will take care of anything, from urban survival to the boonies.

Mark

i was woundering what is better the mountaineer or the shadow they seem the same exept the point what is more usful in survival and why.
 
A Buck 119, a Mora 2000, and a Marine Combat Ka-Bar or Ontario Brand. Get all three for total under 150.
 
Nope... you got it all wrong Blood Grooves. I'd like to think I fully remember being your age, and I fully understand wanting a knife that looks as good as it performs.

Here's what you need. The Koster WSK! This is one BEEFY ass blade. With the serrations you want. It's part Axe, part knife, ALL bad ass!

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502483

Plus, it is damn hard to beat Koster quality and customer service.
 
urban survival definetly a multi-tool or a sak.

less likely to get in trouble with the law plus its easily concealable and very versatile.

cheers :)
 
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