Survival Lilly knife.

I wonder if she had it made at the same factory that makes Cold Steel's Taiwan made knives. On a slightly related note, Work Tuff Gear (Taiwanese company) knives look a heck of a lot better at lower prices...I would have just rebranded one of their models.
 
a few observations:

any apoc thread on bf gets lots of attn
any person actually contemplating 'driving' away from an apoc situation is fubar from the start
any 1 blade apoc 'recommendation' is also such nonsense
survivors will be the ones sporting a truckers friend while staying as far away from roadways as possible

just my 2¢
 
At the end of the world, I'll take the over bulit, tank knives. Give me an ESEE 5 in this price range.
 
Esee 5 is a great knife, unfortunately in the UK it is about £100 more, virtually twice the price.
 
fielder said:
Esee 5 is a great knife, unfortunately in the UK it is about £100 more, virtually twice the price.
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What adds so much to the price? Is it crazy import taxes? A BK2 would be more reasonable in price and still be a better knife for Armageddon.
 
Yes, the Becker is about the same price here as the Apo 1.
I really don't know the reason why our UK prices are so high.
 
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No. Neither. Delta 3v for what she does.
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I have no experience with delta 3v. Would a knife in that steel be field repairable in an end of world scenario after the blade chips and the tip breaks off? Or at least easily sharpened after a day of prying limpets off rocks?
 
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I have no experience with delta 3v. Would a knife in that steel be field repairable in an end of world scenario after the blade chips and the tip breaks off? Or at least easily sharpened after a day of prying limpets off rocks?
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Yup. Of course you shouldn't do that stuff with your one survival knife anyway. Depending on the knife, you be hard pressed to break a tip. Near impossible the the cpk knives I own.

And remember, sharpening is not an issue for Lilly. She didn't sharpen that fallkniven she destroyed. She'd great benefit from a knife that handles her abuse better. Aus8 will not be that knife.
Look up some of the destruction tests nathan carothers (cpk) does with delta and regular 3v.
 
craytab said:
Yup. Of course you shouldn't do that stuff with your one survival knife anyway. Depending on the knife, you be hard pressed to break a tip. Near impossible the the cpk knives I own.

And remember, sharpening is not an issue for Lilly. She didn't sharpen that fallkniven she destroyed. She'd great benefit from a knife that handles her abuse better. Aus8 will not be that knife.
Look up some of the destruction tests nathan carothers (cpk) does with delta and regular 3v.
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That's good to know! I have no experience with 3V and I am generally biased towards softer steels that sharpen easily on waterstones and react well to be steeled.

This started off as less of a "what should Lilly use" and more of a "one knife to rule them all during the apocalypse" line of questioning. To that end sharpening your one knife after looting abandoned cars in the post apocalypse will be a necessity for her. I still think AUS-8 would be just fine as an 'apocalypse' knife simply because it's easy enough to repair and sharpen, something Lilly would certainly have to do after chopping her way into an abandoned fortress for the evening. In fact, I think about any modern steel that doesn't easily chip would be just fine; but then again 'just fine' is a wide range.
 
Due to customer demand. The next batch of knives will also be offered in a super steel and a carbon steel... It's some time away and id say that could change from now until then. But yea. She's not saying which steels she is choosing yet.

 
craytab said:
That's good you can get it at a price you find acceptable. I can get similar knives for much less so I guess I am lucky.

For doing what she does I'd still pay more for a better steel. This knife would not fair better than the fallkniven.
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Would you rather have the APO for $130 or a Buck 119 for $50? I would probably rather have the Buck.
 
The full tang Apo 1 will likely be be stronger.
This seems to be a controversial subject I'm just judging the knife purely on its own merits.
It batons well, makes decent feather sticks. It chops surprisingly well for a knife of this size. The spine is excellent at making sparks, it has a very comfortable and secure g10 handle
The sheath dulls the blade.
All in, its an honest, strong, useable knife. Sure there are better knives, but they tend to be expensive At the price it is here, it is a worthwhile purchase.
These are my unbiased opinions from testing the knife myself without regard to personalities or claims.
 
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craytab said:
For what Lilly does? Neither.
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It's kind of like going to a nice steak place and having the waiter ask if you want a Big Mac or a Wendy's hot dog. The answer is no; I want the good steak I came here for.

In fact if it's a really good steak you'll get a knife with it you can keep! All credit to Matt/CTFM/Charlie Mike for that one. Start your survival trek out with a good meal.
 
If I needed an apocalypse knife I’d take a fallkniven s-1(with a sharpener) and a SwampRat Mountainmandu over Lilliy’s entire Top 10. Weight permitting I’d also take a busse BME2, BB13, several spyderco millie’s and my 1972 buck 120. No aus-8. Maybe an entrek Bison as well.Û
 
I own and use a Busse Swatmandu LEOR, a Boss Jack, a Carothers a Fallkniven and a couple of different Bark River Bravos All great knives And all very expensive.
Variety is great. And having a much cheaper knife has advantages
 
This whole steel question is actually getting old.
Much of the need for any specific steel, is driven by the marketing from knife manufatureres.
Take 440C for instance. Once a reputable steel, which ended up getting a bad name. And it got the bad name, because "the internet said so".
Fortunately it seems, that more and more are coming back to theunderstanding, that 440C is just fine as a knifesteel.
Same with AUS8. The internet says it is bad, so it must be bad...?
Some believe that people are foolish for paying 130$ for an APO1 is AUS8.
But who is the bigger fool? The APO1 buyer, or the one paying 425$ for a Spartan Harsey Difensa? The Spartan knife is not 3 1/2 times better.
The best clue to the APO1 being priced right, is the fact that it is sold out. And there is a demand for more.
I am not saying that 3V (or many other great steeltypes) does not perform better than AUS8. But that does not mean that an AUS8 knife can't be a good choice.
It certainly does seem to perform better than the Fällkniven S1, for the intended use of the APO1.
 
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Here's a pretty good review on the Apo, maybe if they make it out of carbon or a different steel it would fare better.

 
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