Survival Lilly knife.

[Woe is me]

To blade scout. You are not smart enough to understand an insult - ("paper or plastic"). ?
I am implying that you should be bagging groceries, like any other moron.

 

[Danke42]

To blade scout. You are not smart enough to understand an insult - ("paper or plastic"). ?
I am implying that you should be bagging groceries, like any other moron.

 

[gazz98]

Folks, take your insults to PMs or other conversations. This is how threads get locked. Let's stay on topic about a knife.

I love the look of the blade. Classic and no nonsense. I admittedly don't see me spending $145 USD on an Aus 8 fixed blade thou. I'd rather see ATS 34, 154cm, or cpm 154 or a tool steel (at the current $150ish price point, not fair to compare it to a $300 knife) but everyone has their own idea for the perfect fixed blade. I give Lily credit that she designed a knife and got it into production.

A lot of complaints on the sheath not fitting well and dulling the blade. That is a big problem.

 

[Boru13]

Warning issued for insults... discuss the topic, not each other.

W Woe is me , banned from the thread.

 

[katanas]

I guess I’d take Lilly’s knife over that Bear Grylls thing. Is that faint praise?

VERY faint, but accurate.

 

[craytab]

Folks, take your insults to PMs or other conversations. This is how threads get locked. Let's stay on topic about a knife.

I love the look of the blade. Classic and no nonsense. I admittedly don't see me spending $145 USD on an Aus 8 fixed blade thou. I'd rather see ATS 34, 154cm, or cpm 154 or a tool steel (at the current $150ish price point, not fair to compare it to a $300 knife) but everyone has their own idea for the perfect fixed blade. I give Lily credit that she designed a knife and got it into production.

A lot of complaints on the sheath not fitting well and dulling the blade. That is a big problem.

Hmm. I agree with most of this. I don't agree with only comparing given the price. Remember, this is the only knife you will take to the apocalypse. If that were the case (which it is, the damn knife name says so), I'd be paying more to get a much much better knife suited to do the tasks asked of Lilly. My survival in the apocalypse is worth more than $130.

 

[NapalmCheese]

I'd be paying more to get a much much better knife suited to do the tasks asked of Lilly. My survival in the apocalypse is worth more than $130.

I don't watch her videos (don't even know who she is). What tasks does she ask of her knives? What would be better suited to doing those tasks while remaining field repairable? Is the knife she designed capable of doing those things?

 

[Quiet]

I don't watch her videos (don't even know who she is). What tasks does she ask of her knives? What would be better suited to doing those tasks while remaining field repairable? Is the knife she designed capable of doing those things?

To be candid, she does all the same things other Youtube "backyard bushcraftjers" do: batoning and feathersticks. Oh, all while wearing special bushcraft clothes*. "Oh man, is the apocalypse starting????!! Wait, I haven't put on my special clothes, yet!!!!"


* This still cracks me up.

 

[GermanyChris]

To be candid, she does all the same things other Youtube "backyard bushcraftjers" do: batoning and feathersticks. Oh, all while wearing special bushcraft clothes*. "Oh man, is the apocalypse starting????!! Wait, I haven't put on my special clothes, yet!!!!"


* This still cracks me up.

Where do you buy apocalypse clothes I need a new outfit.



I wonder if I can get them to match my Jeep?

 

[fielder]

I'm not interested in the apocalyptic use of the knife I accept that Carothers Spartan and Busse may well be better, I own each brand. But they cost about four times as much
For my use, and that of many others that matters.
I like the full tang with g10 scales better than thermorun etc.
The spine is lovely and square and makes sparks off a ferro rod incredibly well.
It makes good feather sticks - to my limited ability.
The sheath is good quality but is not acceptable since it is too tight and dulls the blade I use a Spec Ops sheath that I had sitting around which works well.
The price here in UK was acceptable certainly better than many others. £117 is very reasonable.
I'm not interested in the makers claims or hype. The knife seems to be a good honest effort and works very well at the basic stuff I do.
Overall I'm pleased with it and am glad I bought it. Except for the sheath.

 

[BladeScout]

If the knife works for you, fine. You should buy what ever knife you want for your money.
More expensive knives aside, Im just wondering whether or not for example the less expensive SRK wont do the exact same job as the APO.
Of course, if somebody is infatuated with the APO, he/she is free to spend the extra dough on the APO.
Personally, Im not keen on the knife but thats just me. I dont follow the youtuber in question.

 

[fielder]

Here in UK it costs only £117 which is cheaper than rivals.

 

[DocJD]

Aus8 with a good HT is a still an acceptable steel for me in a folder or small fixed utility / chore knife .

Won't be the best for a larger fixed blade destined for extreme hard use "Apocalypse " survival . I'd want the toughest steel I could afford .

Perhaps a moot point . I doubt most people will even have the will to live beyond the demise of their smart phones !

 

[NapalmCheese]

If the knife works for you, fine. You should buy what ever knife you want for your money.
More expensive knives aside, Im just wondering whether or not for example the less expensive SRK wont do the exact same job as the APO.

From the pictures I've seen of the APO compared the SRK (which I own), the SRK lacks an exposed tang or pommel (unfortunate if you hammer the knife into something) and the APO looks to me to have a more weight forward bias, getting progressive taller towards the belly compared to the SRK (that might just be perspective from the photos though). Also the APO seems to have a steel guard, the SRK does not (not that I think one is necessary). As for the APO sheath dulling the blade, isn't that a complaint of the current SRKs as well? My SRK is old and came with a nylon sheath that I thought was subpar and so I made a high ride leather sheath for it instead.

 

[Allan Gray]

I quite enjoy Survivor Lilly's channel and I think the knife looks pretty good. One thing I really like is that she made a video detailing the evolution of her design process, prototyping and reasoning behind her choices. I'd like to see more makers do this. Her favourite knife for a long time was an SRK so she used that as the initial pattern and then made changes to the things she didn't like so much (mostly the handle). This is how good design is done imo, refining a proven design rather than trying to re-invent the wheel.

The "Survival Knife" genre is a legitimate category, though i think something more like "Emergency Tool" is a better description. It's not the same thing as a bushcraft or camp knife. It's for all those tasks you're not supposed to use a knife for: prying, levering, digging, breaching etc. The point being you don't have the proper tools available and only have the thing strapped to your hip. It's utility as a cutting tool may not even be of primary importance. It's not necessarily something I would carry very often, but keep in a vehicle or emergency kit.

Lilly's knife looks pretty solid in that context, I would rate toughness and field sharpenability as a high priority in that type of knife so the AUS 8 isn't a bad choice. Personally I would just go with an SRK, as the price difference doesn't outweigh the improvements on a knife that's more for emergency use.

 

[DJC72]

While I am not a fan of her channel, I hope she does well with production and sales of the Apo1. With over 700,000 subscribers, the knife should sell. All knives resemble a “style” and this knife seems to thrive on being a Cold Steel Srk on steroids. From being to thick at the spine, to low of a Sabre grind and to thick behind the edge, I would chose an Srk over this any day. I do like that she is trying to improve this model and seems open to the evolution of the Apo1.

 

[craytab]

I don't watch her videos (don't even know who she is). What tasks does she ask of her knives? What would be better suited to doing those tasks while remaining field repairable? Is the knife she designed capable of doing those things?

I don't watch them either, aside from watching the ones here posted for discussion sake. Here's a few threads on what she does with a knife:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bad-review-fällkniven-s1-suvival-lilly.1494881/
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/fällkniven-s1-fail-video.1494527/

 

[craytab]

Here in UK it costs only £117 which is cheaper than rivals.

That's good you can get it at a price you find acceptable. I can get similar knives for much less so I guess I am lucky.

For doing what she does I'd still pay more for a better steel. This knife would not fair better than the fallkniven.

 

[NapalmCheese]

For doing what she does I'd still pay more for a better steel. This knife would not fair better than the fallkniven.

So is VG-10 is the steel you think would be better suited for the work she does over AUS-8 while still being field repairable?

 

[DJC72]

Aus 8 is very easy to work with/repair but when a knife is as thick as the Apo1 behind the edge (as seen in the DBK video) you must remove a lot of steel to fix any issues in the field.