Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

[EngrSorenson]

Do you think we ever hear anything thing else from Guy??? I wish we would at least post something saying it's over if that's the case. Then I'll know for sure I'm never getting my knife, and stop watching this thread everyday. Chalk it up to another in a long list of bad decisions I've made in life

You’ll get closure, but it might take a while. Legal gears turn very slowly.

 

[theknifejunky]

There are some changes to the web site - now on homepage is large EDC4 as in stock, but when clicked on it, cant be purchased.

 

[Quiet]

Yeah, I kinda caught that drift.

So, let me set the record straight.

I've never met Bob Shabala of NSM. Nor have I ever met any of the gentlemen associated with Crucible.

I have never received a favor, a knife, a promise of future benefits, or remuneration of any sort from anyone associated with NSM or Crucible, nor, in fact, from anyone in the 25 years plus during which I've been connected with bladeforums, in any capacity, as a staff member.

This is a labor of love for me. I've never made a dime off it...and the only reason I have ever reached out to or corresponded with any of these parties was in order to be able to bring some clarity to this thread and the community here.

If there is a shred of evidence (anywhere) to the contrary...I look forward to hearing about it.

I would say you can rest easy, brother. Literally not a single soul here would believe you're being paid off in any way, despite what some garbage bag YouBoober might try to claim because his super delicate feefees got burnt when he discovered that his YouBoober status didn't earn him any immediate deferrence or respect. That dude was definitely a shill, shilling for his "friend" HST Jon (who was attempting to protect his stupid investment in Guy's ponzi scheme). We all knew the score when he tried to claim that he had insider "close to the situation" information/knowledge that none of us could possibly have. Dude just didn't understand that this fraud has been going on since long before either of them even had a Youtube channel.

As for "working with Spark", Kevin probably isn't going to be concerned with Mr. 36k Followers or his ideas on what Bladeforums should be doing different. Eff that guy, candidly speaking.

 

[jeffbird]

Yeah, I kinda caught that drift.

So, let me set the record straight.

I've never met Bob Shabala of NSM. Nor have I ever met any of the gentlemen associated with Crucible.

I have never received a favor, a knife, a promise of future benefits, or remuneration of any sort from anyone associated with NSM or Crucible, nor, in fact, from anyone in the 25 years plus during which I've been connected with bladeforums, in any capacity, as a staff member.

This is a labor of love for me. I've never made a dime off it...and the only reason I have ever reached out to or corresponded with any of these parties was in order to be able to bring some clarity to this thread and the community here.

If there is a shred of evidence (anywhere) to the contrary...I look forward to hearing about it.

A mountain lion need not fear a squirrel. No one is giving him a second’s worth of consideration. You are beyond good to go.

 

[Blues]

Thanks, guys...I appreciate the backup.

It's not about me...but there are many new folks on these forums who don't know me, whether in person, (at home or away), visiting at shows, or by reputation...so I felt it best to address any possible allegation or appearance of impropriety.

I take my oaths seriously, whether in a courtroom, or in the court of public opinion.

 

[jeffbird]

You’re welcome B, you have earned it.

 

[ncrockclimb]

Jacob is really pushing the narrative that he never supported Survive, that he was only rude to "trolls" and was "refuting the ignorant details being shared by a fed and a few shills." He is REALLY pissed that he was banned here, and claiming that part of the negative S!K commentary is coming from people associated with former S!K partners. Jacob is really trash.

 

[mikebandw186]

Jacob is really pushing the narrative that he never supported Survive, that he was only rude to "trolls" and was "refuting the ignorant details being shared by a fed and a few shills." He is REALLY pissed that he was banned here, and claiming that part of the negative S!K commentary is coming from people associated with former S!K partners. Jacob is really trash.

Driving business to survive by profiling the blades is supporting them. It continued to support the grift and meant people would not receive what they paid for while new customers were taken care of (I assume).

 

[rmc001]

I made a comment to Jacob and Choirboyz that they got people ripped off.

Their replies show how low of character they have. What BS "excuses".

Jacob said, "who got ripped off? I paid.. $220? And got a great knife. I made some objective reviews along the way, had some good education, and earn some new utterly unhinged basement dwelling trolls this is an absolute win"

Choirboyzcutleryoutdoors, "Jacob and I both showed the knives work. They are damn good knives.. say they are not"

I liked his videos well before this. He posted a video with a 5.1 quite some time ago. I sent him a message on Instagram and told him to do his homework. He responded that he would...well I guess he made his choice.

 

[Quiet]

I made a comment to Jacob and Choirboyz that they got people ripped off.

Their replies show how low of character they have. What BS "excuses".

Jacob said, "who got ripped off? I paid.. $220? And got a great knife. I made some objective reviews along the way, had some good education, and earn some new utterly unhinged basement dwelling trolls this is an absolute win"

Choirboyzcutleryoutdoors, "Jacob and I both showed the knives work. They are damn good knives.. say they are not"

I liked his videos well before this. He posted a video with a 5.1 quite some time ago. I sent him a message on Instagram and told him to do his homework. He responded that he would...well I guess he made his choice.

Saw some other commenters try to get it through that bozo's head along the same lines. A positive review is still a positive review that might have swayed someone who hasn't heard of the company before (and for some reason, their brain is broken so they don't care to do any research) into giving Guy more free money. They just aren't going to get it. As far as they're concerned, they're only concerned about the clicks that give them revenue. They don't care about anything else. In their mind, it has nothing to do with them. Me personally, I'm glad HST Jon got rooked, and I'm glad Jacob looks like a complete flip-flopping dbag over this whole charade.

 

[toker]

Jacob is really pushing the narrative that he never supported Survive, that he was only rude to "trolls" and was "refuting the ignorant details being shared by a fed and a few shills." He is REALLY pissed that he was banned here, and claiming that part of the negative S!K commentary is coming from people associated with former S!K partners. Jacob is really trash.

What am I missing? His profile doesn't show that he is banned. I thought he was just given a time out from this thread.

What I find hilarious is that he implied that he had inside information due to HST being a new part owner and that there weren't thousand of outstanding orders. Which simply didn't make sense to anyone with an ounce of critical thinking. The fact that HST said that he helped close to a thousand orders ship out shows how huge their backlog actually is. Otherwise, they still wouldn't be in over their heads.

Choirboyzcutleryoutdoors, "Jacob and I both showed the knives work. They are damn good knives.. say they are not"

That attitude just shows a lack of integrity. That's like shilling for FTX if you weren't one of the people that got shafted.

 

[Jdottinger]

What am I missing? His profile doesn't show that he is banned. I thought he was just given a time out from this thread.

Das boot. He did get a temp ban. I never saw what got him the permaban though. Only selfbans will show the “banned” banner now.

I feel dumber after watching his video, I hope he’s happy.

 

[EngrSorenson]

That’s been a problem with Survive! Knives this whole time: they make a knife that reviews well, because frankly the bar for what passes in the survivalist Busch-crafter world is actually pretty low.

If you think about it, what wouldn’t pass the criteria of one of these reviewers? ESEE’s been making great budget answers to the Busch-crafter “problem” for ages, and they’re only one show it town. When these putzes go, “say it’s not a good knife! Say it!”, it’s a losing proposition. It’s easy to review a knife and call it good.

Freaking S!K might look good in a snapshot review of one knife, but compile the complete picture of their dogshit performance for the past decade and all of a sudden things don’t look so good, but that would require homework, reading, following up and similar things that aren’t as fun to do compared to going around dicking about with a new toy.

BladeForums has been preaching the gospel of the demise of S!K for probably a decade. These hack reviewers are just getting caught up.

 

[EasternShore]

That’s been a problem with Survive! Knives this whole time: they make a knife that reviews well, because frankly the bar for what passes in the survivalist Busch-crafter world is actually pretty low.

If you think about it, what wouldn’t pass the criteria of one of these reviewers? ESEE’s been making great budget answers to the Busch-crafter “problem” for ages, and they’re only one show it town. When these putzes go, “say it’s not a good knife! Say it!”, it’s a losing proposition. It’s easy to review a knife and call it good.

Freaking S!K might look good in a snapshot review of one knife, but compile the complete picture of their dogshit performance for the past decade and all of a sudden things don’t look so good, but that would require homework, reading, following up and similar things that aren’t as fun to do compared to going around dicking about with a new toy.

BladeForums has been preaching the gospel of the demise of S!K for probably a decade. These hack reviewers are just getting caught up.

I never understood the hype of “it’s such a great quality knife! it’s second to none!” some of these guys push as well. A guy in one of those youtube comments was adamantly insisting the fit and finish were better than CRK and TRC.

 

[Boru13]

I never saw what got him the permaban though.

Short answer is he was too stupid to know when to shut up with the insults.

 

[nsm]

Yeah, I kinda caught that drift.

So, let me set the record straight.

I've never met Bob Shabala of NSM. Nor have I ever met any of the gentlemen associated with Crucible.

I have never received a favor, a knife, a promise of future benefits, or remuneration of any sort from anyone associated with NSM or Crucible, nor, in fact, from anyone in the 25 years plus during which I've been connected with bladeforums, in any capacity, as a staff member.

This is a labor of love for me. I've never made a dime off it...and the only reason I have ever reached out to or corresponded with any of these parties was in order to be able to bring some clarity to this thread and the community here.

If there is a shred of evidence (anywhere) to the contrary...I look forward to hearing about it.

I will confirm 100% true.

 

[mikebandw186]

Heavyset Jon is posting in the survive group again. Basically Survive has shut down and no one has any contact with Guy. He put his own money on the table to get knives out the door and lost it. He again promises a video on the experience.

 

[Ilikesharpstuff]

Heavyset Jon is posting in the survive group again. Basically Survive has shut down and no one has any contact with Guy. He put his own money on the table to get knives out the door and lost it. He again promises a video on the experience.

Even that is a little questionable. If no one has any contact with Guy, how does Jon know that the company has shut down? That would surely mean they shut down at the same time he left/he left because they shut down, so he's known about it for a while now, right? Why is he still protecting Guy? Or is it just protecting himself from the backlash that's sure to come for shilling for a failing/already failed company?

 

[toker]

Heavyset Jon is posting in the survive group again. Basically Survive has shut down and no one has any contact with Guy.

Is that a Private group?

He put his own money on the table to get knives out the door and lost it. He again promises a video on the experience.

So he basically injected some money into the company and then helped grind or process a thousand orders for free?

Didn't Guy burn another investor that injected or loaned a lot of money too? I feel bad for HST, but he really should have done his research on the company.

 

[craytab]

Heavyset Jon is posting in the survive group again. Basically Survive has shut down and no one has any contact with Guy. He put his own money on the table to get knives out the door and lost it. He again promises a video on the experience.

Karma is a bitch.

These two nitwits should have known better. Even with all the pertinent information available to them, guy was still able to con these guys. Lessons learned. They've tanked their rep, no hiding what they did to help guys con, we've got th receipts. Only thing to do would be a full apology and fall on your sword. Not likely to happen given the way they both carry themselves in the best of circumstances.

Oh well, survive strikes again! Wonder what the next iteration will be. Guy's a con man and cons gotta con.