Kevin, Survive! Knives represent this forum negatively in several ways. When new people come to bladeforums and search through our manufacturer list, they see survive! knives and are unaware of all the shenanigans the company has pulled through the years. They have customers waiting for knives for 4 years now, while they continue to produce "seconds" and "ugly betties (3rds)" and sell them. At this point they censor people who try to warn new comers in their forum that they may not receive a knife they paid for in the next few years. When people have a bad experience with survive! knives they may associate survive! knives with this forum. Which regulars here, know full well, that survive! Isn't the norm here on the forum, it is the exception. Survive! Doesn't uphold the same level of standards as every other manufacturer on this forum does.