Survivorman and Helle knives collaboration knife.

The stick tangs are fine if you know the knifes limit. Dont expect it to split wood like a BK2, and itll serve you just fine.
 
even if it comes with a stick tang, can anyone say that a stick tang has been limiting for Les in the past? doubt it.

seems like a stick tang can work just fine if you know what your doing.
 
KuRUpTD said:
Maybe for Les and those who know how to use a knife properly but for the general population maybe not so much. :D
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I'm amazed that people break stick tangs. If you're sensible, this shouldn't happen. What amazes me more is when people break full tang knives. Now that takes some serious... ahem... talent.
 
I can't wait to see what he comes up with. I like the looks of this one though, and I am not normally a fan of this kind of knife.

wrxguyusa said:
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Zombie Zeke said:
I disagree on the Busse point, <snip>
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That's because you missed the Busse point. :p
I didn't say a thing about their capabilities. I was making a jestful (somewhat) point that all the guys crying that the Les Stroud Helle may be <gasp> over $100, should just go out and buy a really freaking expensive knife, Busse being a good example because of all the Busse envy, er hate, that goes on in W&SS. That way, once they'e bought a $500 knife, the $150 Stroud Special (just picking numbers) isn't that big of a deal.
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pitdog said:
On a downside I noticed how small the tangs were and so did a little digging, found a few cases of breakages as in this video. They all seem to be caused by battoning though so stick with the carving and they should serve you well.
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You mean use a knife like a knife? Now THERE'S some BF blasphemy!
Yeah, looking at that area of the world, they tend to do their chopping and splitting with axes. For knife use, those tangs are fine.

wyattT said:
even if it comes with a stick tang, can anyone say that a stick tang has been limiting for Les in the past? doubt it.
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Nope, and when he's in very cold climates in winter, he carried an axe.
 
Helle already has a very wide range of knives.
I wonder what added value this knife will have

I would presume it will be full tang to satisfy the American markets desire as almost a prerequisite for a survival knife
 
pitdog said:
Here are some Helle tangs, I don't have a problem with stick tangs but prefer to see them with a little more meat on than these.

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Thanks for the picture

TheGame said:
Those tangs scare me a bit. Thanks for posting the pic, Pit.
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Me too. One of the things I recently learned while talking to a maker on tangs is to avoid corners close to 90 degrees. These corners will take most strain and are most prone to cause failure.

Now this is not such a big concern for those who know what a knife is for. But fools will be fools.
 
marthinus said:
. One of the things I recently learned while talking to a maker on tangs is to avoid corners close to 90 degrees. These corners will take most strain and are most prone to cause failure.
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:thumbup:That's exactly right. Sharp angles are where the stress risers will form.
 
Helle wouldnt have survived since 1932 if they made knives that broke all the time. And even if they did, then they wouldnt offer their products with a lifetime guarantee or theyd be totally broke by now.
 
Some very recent years ago the idea of the "indestructible" knife must have been born.
I wonder how we could survive the 80s with all those hollow handle survival knives ;)

edit : a narrow stick tang is a good thing as it saves weight and cost... (did i say that ?)
 
Maybe it's going to be a full tang scandi?

The scandi knife makers have the scandi part down. Enzo is about the only one with a full tang bushcraft style blade.

Would be cool to see a full tang with a thickness more like a Mora 2000 or something. Sturdy but light. The enzo full tang ones are awful thick.
 
Gambrinus said:
edit : a narrow stick tang is a good thing as it saves weight and cost... (did i say that ?)
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Clearly there is negligible weight savings here. Increasing the width of the tang would IMO be a good thing considering theses knives are stamped from strips of laminated steel ( as shown in the manufacturing process) and a wider tang costs no more than a narrow one unless the drop (waste) is recycled.
At the very least, the tapered tang (#95 in the previous post) would be a better design from a strength/engineering standpoint and a good compromise although it may adversely affect the balance. Though I'm not a rabid 'scandi guy' I'd be infinitely more confident in a modern full-tang version ala the Enzo Trapper for nearly the same price point. And i'd have absolutely NO qualms about batoning the hell out of that puppy.
Folks seem to get all warm and fuzzy about traditional scandi stick-tang designs (and that's fine) fine for spoon whitlin' BUT if I am depending on only ONE cutting implement a traditional Helle (stick tang) just ain't it.
So I'm hoping maybe Helle (and Les) will opt to stray from the sacred cow that is all things 'traditional' and produce a riveted-handled FULL tang offering that incocrorporates a proven scandi blade geometry.

Ron
 
Maybe they'll come out with a piggyback sheath. A big prybar with a light puukko that's good for cutting.
As far as weight goes, my puukko weighs 130g, my full tang scandi is 280g. Similar dimensions.
 
I just checked out their product line. This Eggen looks nice for about $65, right?

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