Tactical Folder

[3mptin3ss]

I carry a gun for SD a little khar CW9 loaded with hydrashocks if a guy pulled a knife on me id double tap ( i think the new politically correct term is controlled pair) him in the face. There's this aura that surrounds blades of all types that makes people think there is something supernatural about them...

the same can be said about those who think a gun will solve all their problems, or that a gun will guarantee their safety

 

[Ankerson]

Well seeing as how its been proven IN EVERY MAJOR BATTLE and in every minor one as far as i know (are you listening walleyeguy?) that rugged and relable combat knives are a worthwhile peice of kit i already bought myself one. Even though im an unashamed busse fan boy i wll have a desert tan RC-4 on my hip during deployment i also have an old rat 3 tucked into the space behind a large pouch on my iba which i will probably replace with either a new RC-3 or a TOPS stryker defender before i go. i also have an american tomahawk lagana tomahawk and a leatherman crunch which was a gift fom a friend between that stuff i will be quite set :thumbup: in case you didnt know the afgahnis and iraqis hate large knives and axes. it's a cultural thing and i think it stems mainly from the fact that they are in a part of the world were people actually chop other peoples heads off. the tomahawk also can be used as a breaching tool and if things get fubared for cqc but i hope it would never even come close. if i could have it my way we would never even take contact much less have to get into close quarters fighting.

My busses are almost all safe queens and even the ones i use im not willing to bring with me to a place they can easily be lost stolen o just plain confiscated.

I would just have to have my HI WW II Model Khurki with me if I was over there just in case and a 6-8" fixed blade too.

 

[Jos]

I like this kind of threads. Somebody asks a question, or a comparison between two knives, and pretty soon we're all over the place, suggesting other knives, giving definitions of the word "tactical", double-tapping people in the face, what fixed blades to take to Afganistan... (no disrespect to people being deployed there)

 

[3mptin3ss]

I like this kind of threads. Somebody asks a question, or a comparison between two knives, and pretty soon we're all over the place, suggesting other knives, giving definitions of the word "tactical", double-tapping people in the face, what fixed blades to take to Afganistan... (no disrespect to people being deployed there)

at least so far nobody has offered the very typical but always awesome "just get an ak47 instead" reply that we are so used to hearing anytime someone asks which knife would be best for self defense.

 

[stabman]

Ah yes, the whole "snap their finger with the knife with a hole in it" trick. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I thought it was quite amusing.

 

[stabman]

What if you had gloves, thick gloves? And I think everyone can at least get their thumb stuck in the hole- just thrust in until it can't go in anymore.

The hole is BIGGER on the Military to facilitate opening when wearing gloves. Try it. It works. In fact, it works WAY better than tiny studs.
And no, not everyone can get their thumb stuck in the hole.
I sure can't(just tried it too, so there), and I don't have sausage fingers either.

 

[razorsdescent]

Hey razorsdescent and Ankerson, get a room.:jerkit:

Thank you for that highly insightful comment.:yawn:

 

[razorsdescent]

the same can be said about those who think a gun will solve all their problems, or that a gun will guarantee their safety

Please help me find the point in my post where i stated that a gun would solve anyones problems or guarantee safety.

 

[razorsdescent]

I like this kind of threads. Somebody asks a question, or a comparison between two knives, and pretty soon we're all over the place, suggesting other knives, giving definitions of the word "tactical", double-tapping people in the face, what fixed blades to take to Afganistan... (no disrespect to people being deployed there)

Eeehhhhh I see where your coming from. When your grandfather was in world war 2 he probably had a slipjoint with him. He probably used it daily to open rations and cut chord and other such tasks. Does that make it tactical? by and large i think tactical is a marketing term and that's why i asked what the OP meant by tactical.

 

[stabman]

It's fine for an EDC opening letters, maybe a package or 2, cleaning fingernails, maybe cutting a sandwich in half if need be.

Very light field use at best.

I stab trees with my Military for fun sometimes(rather hard, too), and it still survives.
I also use it for cutting thick cardboard(up to 1 inch thick), and yes, cutting sandwiches(and fruit)
What "Tactical" uses are harder on the knife than stabbing trees quite forcefully?
And PLEASE don't say prying, as that's NOT what knives are for.

 

[Ankerson]

I stab trees with my Military for fun sometimes(rather hard, too), and it still survives.
I also use it for cutting thick cardboard(up to 1 inch thick), and yes, cutting sandwiches(and fruit)
What "Tactical" uses are harder on the knife than stabbing trees quite forcefully?
And PLEASE don't say prying, as that's NOT what knives are for.

You can stab trees with an ice pick too. LOL

I hope you are using a lanyard when you are stabbing the tree, wouldn't want you to cut off a few of your fingers.

I just don't think some people get what a real field knife is or should be able to do. Unless you have served in the Military in an Infantry unit or done a lot of camping in remote locations over a period of time just most won't understand.

 

[stabman]

You can stab trees with an ice pick too. LOL

I hope you are using a lanyard when you are stabbing the tree, wouldn't want you to cut off a few of your fingers.

I just don't think some people get what a real field knife is or should be able to do. Unless you have served in the Military in an Infantry unit or done a lot of camping in remote locations over a period of time just most won't understand.

No lanyard; just grip it hard.
If I were going for a truly "hard use" knife which I could baton with, and do all sorts of crazy stuff, I'd be packing a fixed blade(maybe my awesome new Clax; THAT'S a field knife:thumbup.
As far as a knife which can do things a folding knife should, the Military does just fine.
Except for prying or being used as a screwdriver.

 

[Ankerson]

No lanyard; just grip it hard.
If I were going for a truly "hard use" knife which I could baton with, and do all sorts of crazy stuff, I'd be packing a fixed blade(maybe my awesome new Clax; THAT'S a field knife:thumbup.
As far as a knife which can do things a folding knife should, the Military does just fine.
Except for prying or being used as a screwdriver.

Well a fixed blade would be and is the best choice. :thumbup:

I carry my Busse FBM CG or one of my Trail Masters usually.

 

[stabman]

Well a fixed blade would be and is the best choice. :thumbup:

Right tool for the job.

 

[razorsdescent]

Right tool for the job.

Hurray were all getting along now

 

[Ankerson]

Right tool for the job.

Yep. :thumbup:

My current field kit, everything is covered blade wise.



Busse FBM CG, Recon 1 (New) and EZ-Lap Diamond Sharpener (600 grit)

 

[mdauben]

But yeah for a pocket ornament to show off to friends, maybe slice some paper or shave some hair it's fine for that.

Honestly, if you had a lower post count I would just write you off as a troll for this comment. Since you are a long time member of the forum I have to assume you serious, although I find it hard to believe anyone would say this about the Spyderco Military.

One can argue about details if you want, but in the end the Millie is one of, if not the, best heavy duty folders made. Period. :thumbup:

If you are in the field and that is the only tool you have you will be in trouble in short order.

Wha...? I would rather have a Military in my pocket that any other folder in the world if I was dropped in the middle of nowhere.

Batoning through wood is, and so is Prying things, both of which your really can't do with the Military.

Battoning through wood is questionable. In three decades of outdoors experience from from Alaska to Georgia and hundred and hundreds of fires, I have never needed to batton anything. And anyone who prys with any knife, let alone a folder, has no idea what he is doing.

When I was in the Military (82-86) we used our knives as tools, they were the do everything tool. And I still do today when in the field, I don't baby them at all.

Fine, that's why they make sharpend prybars like the Ka-Bar BK2 but don't complain if the Military won't do something it was never designed or intended to do.

A folding field knife should be able to some things a fixed blade can do when one not available, the Military can't do them because it's just not really designed to do so. The blade profile and thickness tells us that alone.

Like what??? I can't think of anything another folder could do, that the Military could not do as well or better.

Now get into knives like ZT, Strider and some others then yeah, they can if needed to. (A Buck 110 can handle most field tasks, but then who would say "hey man check out this really cool knife" to their buddies if they had a Buck 110 )

Your opinion. I would take the Military over any of them any day.

However no folding knife is as good as a High Quality Fixed Blade.

Uh, huh. And no screwdriver is as good as a High Quality Hammer, either, right?

I was in the USMC (82-86). :thumbup:

I may disagree with almost everything you have said in this thread, buit kudos to you for serving your country and helping protect our freedom.

 

[Jos]

Eeehhhhh I see where your coming from. When your grandfather was in world war 2 he probably had a slipjoint with him. He probably used it daily to open rations and cut chord and other such tasks. Does that make it tactical? by and large i think tactical is a marketing term and that's why i asked what the OP meant by tactical.

I wasn't targetting you razordescent, and I agree that tactical is a marketing term. I was just commenting on the thread going off-topic.

And my grandfather probably had a "tactical" slipjoint in WWII, although the Germans probably took it from him when they put him in a POW camp.

Kind regards,

Jos

 

[Ankerson]

Honestly, if you had a lower post count I would just write you off as a troll for this comment. Since you are a long time member of the forum I have to assume you serious, although I find it hard to believe anyone would say this about the Spyderco Military.

One can argue about details if you want, but in the end the Millie is one of, if not the, best heavy duty folders made. Period. :thumbup:


Wha...? I would rather have a Military in my pocket that any other folder in the world if I was dropped in the middle of nowhere.


Battoning through wood is questionable. In three decades of outdoors experience from from Alaska to Georgia and hundred and hundreds of fires, I have never needed to batton anything. And anyone who prys with any knife, let alone a folder, has no idea what he is doing.


Fine, that's why they make sharpend prybars like the Ka-Bar BK2 but don't complain if the Military won't do something it was never designed or intended to do.


Like what??? I can't think of anything another folder could do, that the Military could not do as well or better.


Your opinion. I would take the Military over any of them any day.


Uh, huh. And no screwdriver is as good as a High Quality Hammer, either, right?


I may disagree with almost everything you have said in this thread, buit kudos to you for serving your country and helping protect our freedom.

I have owned 2 (Bought at the same time) and broke both of them so no I am NOT a Spyderco fan at all.

Well when your K-Bar breaks and they do break by the way, I broke more than a few of them you will need something to take it's place for most things.

I have 25 years of outdoor experience on 4 different Continents does that count?

Thanks for the comment about me serving though, I always thought it was one of our duties as American Citizens to serve in the Military.

 

[razorsdescent]

I wasn't targetting you razordescent, and I agree that tactical is a marketing term. I was just commenting on the thread going off-topic.

And my grandfather probably had a "tactical" slipjoint in WWII, although the Germans probably took it from him when they put him in a POW camp.

Kind regards,

Jos

Well im glad to hear it. I guess the thread did deviate but i have come to expect that when the word tactical is used in the thread name

WOW thats quite a story.. i have a close family friend who was in a german concentration camp and got liberated by the allies. No matter how much we may disagree on knives i think everyone here can agree that they hate nazi's.... but there i go getting off subject again

Best regards, razorsdescent