Tactical Knife

The bottom is called the High Street... I'm personally a fan of the blue:

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Guys, one of the problems with a lot of Busse knives that makes them unfit for the requirement here is lack of a vertical quillion or quillion area. They simple aren't safe, or worse, they are actually dangerous to use as a "tactical" knife. I would love to have a Busse on my vest, as would Marsh as he has expressed several times. But Marsh is an operator, not a collector, and his savvy as an operator is evident in that he did not find a Busse that fit his specifications. Most of the best Busse knives, even the ones I have pointed out in this thread, don't work for 100% of the duty spectrum. Yes, they exceed other knives in many areas of the spectrum, but failure to reach the 100% mark means they don't go on the vest. The exceptions are the Reciprene handled knives.

Before the war, the Benchmade Nimravus was a "tactical" knife. Then after some wars started, they redesigned the knives to make the quillion area more vertical. This was a good start, they just need to add another 16th inch to the thickness of the thing, but the point is that shallow angle quillions are not operator material. BM figured that out, and fixed it.

I have mentioned the Public Defender, the Meaner Street, and several others... that you'd cut yourself to the bone with if you actually used them to stab something. Remember the Salvadorian Special Forces Soldier who killed the insurgent with a Buck knife in Najaf a few years back? He needed tons of stitches after that because the knife had no quillion to keep his hand from slipping up on the blade, and he was stabbing mostly into the neck, a pretty soft area.

I do stand by my recommendations though. If not the best choices overall, they are among the best choices if you're going to be carrying a Busse family knife. And you won't always be stabbing things, so they work well in most other regards, and much better than most other maker's knives out there for virtually every other task you'd have a tactical knife for.

General perameters, with a little leeway, but not much.
Under .170 is too thin.
Over .200 is too heavy.
Over 10" is too long (most guys mount them horizontally, not hollywood upsidedown)


Marsh, shoot me an email, I've got a few ideas you'd be interested in.
 
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Sorry I am not an operator. Sorry for trying to help.
 
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I checked out the Strider EB-T, I can definitely see how the quillions are better designed then on any Busse.
 
iamtoast, please dont apologize for offering an opinion. I am new to the busse lines and i research as best i can every thing that has been suggested on this thread. I've not bought anything, but i have certainly become more educated in the process.

email coming tonight JWBirch
 
I do have to stab with my knife on a pretty regular basis. Not to bore you guys with the details but i do explosive breaching (on top of other things) and when i am scouting a wall or structure that needs a hole put in it i often have to cut out samples from other walls to get a good idea what kind of charge i need to make.

I know i have a lot of real specific requests and the perfect knife for me may not even exist, but i do like the search because i like knives in general. But, as JWBirch said, the bottom line is i have to be able to count on my knife or i dont carry it on duty. And at the price some of these high end knives cost i cant afford to buy them just to see if they will work for me.

Like i said, thanks for all the suggestions and please keep them coming. I know the strider guys have a sordid history (here especially) but their company makes a good knife for my line of work. I just want to branch out and see if there is something else that may work better.
 
JWBirch said:
The exceptions are the Reciprene handled knives.

I have mentioned the Public Defender, the Meaner Street, and several others... that you'd cut yourself to the bone with if you actually used them to stab something. Remember the Salvadorian Special Forces Soldier who killed the insurgent with a Buck knife in Najaf a few years back? He needed tons of stitches after that because the knife had no quillion to keep his hand from slipping up on the blade, and he was stabbing mostly into the neck, a pretty soft area.
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I found this out just GENTLY jabbing a tree trunk with an older Mean Street.:eek: Thumb grooves and serious grooving of the quilted micarta grips only helped to a degree.

I no longer have ANY Mean Streets and I had a decent amount (7), of old ones, all before the newer 'meaner' series.

The palm swell of the AD's helps, but is not 100%.

The deep curve in the front of a SHBA handle also helps, but not sure how close to 100% this is. Have not done much jabbing with my SHBA's.;)

A very real concern.

Rob
 
This is why the Japanese jinto knife handle is so effective... It works in all configurations in the hand.
 
MarshJr said:
And at the price some of these high end knives cost i cant afford to buy them just to see if they will work for me.
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You're getting a lot of good advice from folks who know a lot more than me here, but I wanted to throw in my two cents on this statement....

You probably CAN afford to buy them just to see if they will work, if you are smart about it. Most of these knives, even if they have been used, will sell for more than original retail price down the road. At the very least, you won't lose much money on re-selling them.

I had that mentality at BLADE - I bought a couple things I wasn't 100% sure I wanted, simply because I knew I could easily get my money back out of them later.
 
MustardMan said:
Most of these knives, even if they have been used, will sell for more than original retail price down the road. At the very least, you won't lose much money on re-selling them.
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The problem is i can't find any of the listed knives at retail (none are being made anymore), i would have to buy it second hand for a premium. Once used i wont be able to get back what i put in so i need to be selective on the 1 or 2 that i do decide to pickup.
 
iamtoast said:
Sorry I am not an operator. Sorry for trying to help.
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C'mon Bro, I love you just the way you come. Your opinions are as valid here as anyone else's. I'm sorry if I came across any other way. I have a couple of Nuke EDCs, and I can assure all, if you're in a suit and tie, DSS or SS or any other undercover style, this is one of the best you can get your hands on. Strong work iamtoast, that was a good call.


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I can see that this may be taken as me being facetious. I assure you I am not. If you are undercover in carhartts or really low slung pants the Nuke EDC is still one of the best you can get your hands on.

Edited again: if you put a bit of a swedge grind on the tip of the skull crusher butt of a Meaner Street, Sus Scrofa, or Nuke EDC, that's just plain evel. But sooooooooo nice!
 
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