Tacticlol Knives

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bubblewhip said:
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Look at those holes in the blade and the notch near the tip, sooo ridiculous.
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The notch serves a purpose. Look at where the blade retracts, look at where the firing button is, and put 2 + 2 together.
 
Planterz said:
The notch serves a purpose. Look at where the blade retracts, look at where the firing button is, and put 2 + 2 together.
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That really isn't the point still of this thread. Fact is that notch makes the knife look "mall ninja" or tacticlol. I mean look at Mantis Knives. They list all of them as having purposes like glass breaking and rescue cutting, doesn't remove the fact it looks any more ridiculous. What about Dark Ops knives and their saw back? It serves a purpose to saw things, does it make it any less criticizable than if it didn't? Not really on this forum.
 
bubblewhip said:
That really isn't the point still of this thread. Fact is that notch makes the knife look "mall ninja" or tacticlol.
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No, it makes the knife FUNCTION. It's not holes drilled in, or a seatbelt cutter, or a glassbreaker, or a goofy angular blade grind, it's necessary to make the knife functional. Its no more "tacticlol" than any other locking mechanism. Calling it "ridiculous" would be like saying "haha, look at that door with that knob, sooo ridiculous."
 
Planterz said:
No, it makes the knife FUNCTION. It's not holes drilled in, or a seatbelt cutter, or a glassbreaker, or a goofy angular blade grind, it's necessary to make the knife functional. Its no more "tacticlol" than any other locking mechanism. Calling it "ridiculous" would be like saying "haha, look at that door with that knob, sooo ridiculous."
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No it's not, if someone made a weird robe gold berg locking mechanism like on the Kershaw ET. Even if that locking mechanism is how it makes it function, it doesn't make it look any less ridiculous. And yes maybe in a different dimension a door knob would be ridiculous because it looks fashionably awkward compared to push doors. Take this for example, if someone used a saloon door that would look ridiculous. Is it the way it functions fault or is it because it has massive excess of superfluous stuff? No, it's just maybe that the over all system makes it looks ridiculous.
 
bubblewhip said:
No it's not, if someone made a weird robe gold berg locking mechanism like on the Kershaw ET. Even if that locking mechanism is how it makes it function, it doesn't make it look any less ridiculous. And yes maybe in a different dimension a door knob would be ridiculous because it looks fashionably awkward compared to push doors. Take this for example, if someone used a saloon door that would look ridiculous. Is it the way it functions fault or is it because it has massive excess of superfluous stuff? No, it's just maybe that the over all system makes it looks ridiculous.
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Just stop. You're making yourself look silly now. The fact is that you thought the notch on MT's S/A OTF knives was a "tactitlol" mall ninja gimmick, unaware that it's a functional part of the design. You were wrong, big deal, get over it. Don't like my door analogy? How about "look at that fork with those stupid tines, sooo ridiculous." Without tines, it's not a fork and it won't function as intended. You think the notch looks "ridiculous? Not as ridiculous as a retractable knife that doesn't stay retracted.

You should also be aware that you're arguing with a guy who bought an extra pocket clip set for his Microtech Scarab so he could have 2 glassbreakers instead of just one. I know a little something about superfluous embellishment.

And WTH is a "gold berg" mechanism? :confused:
 
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Some knives look stupid in order to function.

Some knives look stupid but serve a specific purpose.

Some knives look stupid because they are for rich-parented 14-year old mall ninjas that need to shave their upper lips.

But someone in the world likes em.


Let's all be friends now. <3



Group hug, who's with me?
 
Scott Neelan said:
I think he meant "Rube Goldberg".
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I know. The point I was making is that if you don't know what the hell you're talking about, you shouldn't talk about it. Otherwise you'll end up :foot:.
 
Planterz said:
:jerkit: Just stop. You're making yourself look silly now. The fact is that you thought the notch on MT's S/A OTF knives was a "tactitlol" mall ninja gimmick, unaware that it's a functional part of the design. You were wrong, big deal, get over it. Don't like my door analogy? How about "look at that fork with those stupid tines, sooo ridiculous." Without tines, it's not a fork and it won't function as intended. You think the notch looks "ridiculous? Not as ridiculous as a retractable knife that doesn't stay retracted.

You should also be aware that you're arguing with a guy who bought an extra pocket clip set for his Microtech Scarab so he could have 2 glassbreakers instead of just one. I know a little something about superfluous embellishment.

And WTH is a "gold berg" mechanism? :confused:
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*sigh* you don't get it, this is exactly why I criticized this thread all together making fun of designs. It's all subjective. Even if that's the reason why it works it doesn't matter because it looks goofy. Your arguing the fact that maybe I or someone else may think that the knife looks sorta goofy or "mall ninja" with the notch, and somehow saying that because "that's the way it works" makes it all normal and okay. No it doesn't. Because some sports car is designed in a way that it looks like the ugliest thing possible but goes as fast as possible and it would be impossible to make it look visually appealing while at the same time maintaining preformance DOES NOT MAKE IT ANY MORE VISUALLY APPEALING the fact you can rationalize that it has to look that way in order for it to function.

My example of the Kershaw ET is an example of this, saying "it can't help but to look ugly because of the way it works" Does not make it any less ugly. And I meant Robe Goldberg as in horrendously complex devices to achieve a simple task, the Kershaw ET is an example of a complex and almost gimmicky locking mechanism.

Still don't get it? Okay here's a legal situation for you if your in one of those areas with vauge knife must not look "threatening" states or countries (but for some reason were able to carry an automatic knife like the MT Halo) Then a LEO pulls you over and charges you with carrying a "threatening" knife the MT Halo on the basis that the notch makes the knife look "threatening." No matter how much you explain it's integral to the design of how the automatic knife works, he's going to arrest you or confiscate your knife on the grounds that it still looks threatening regardless of it's actual function and purpose in the knife because it has a notch.

P.S This is also exactly the point I made up with the original Spyderco Civilian post I made that a portion of people thought it was okay because they rationalized that the design and philosophy of the knife overtakes that to knives such as Dark Ops or Mantis. While the other portion said that it didn't matter it still looked mall ninja and it still looked ridiculous, despite the fact the blade shape is absolutely integral to the way it preforms, any modification to make it look more "normal" would also suffer in what the civilian was trying to achieve which was absolutely devastating martial use.
 
bubblewhip said:
Still don't get it? Okay here's a legal situation for you if your in one of those areas with vauge knife must not look "threatening" states or countries (but for some reason were able to carry an automatic knife like the MT Halo) Then a LEO pulls you over and charges you with carrying a "threatening" knife the MT Halo on the basis that the notch makes the knife look "threatening." No matter how much you explain it's integral to the design of how the automatic knife works, he's going to arrest you or confiscate your knife on the grounds that it still looks threatening regardless of it's actual function and purpose in the knife because it has a notch.
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So you're saying that if a cop catches you with a HALO he'd let you go if it didn't have that ZOMG SO WICKED!!! half-centimeter notch on the backside of the blade? Riiiiight. You're really stretching here, and you know it.

FWIW, I've had a cop comment on my Scarab once. He saw the dual glassbreakers sicking out of my pocket and asked if it was a Makora (older Makoras came with 2 GBs, and Scarabs came with 1 GB and 1 screw). I said no, it's a Scarab, I just put 2 GBs on it, handed it to him, he fired it, closed it (had to use 2 hands:D), and handed it back saying "cool". He was a regular customer at my pizza store who would come in late at night and we'd chat about knives. First conversation started when I ID'd the Benchmade auto he carried. Gotta love Arizona.:thumbup:
 
fellas fellas. lets not argue here. Lets just all get along in my thread please? Just post the knives you find funny if someone doesnt like it too bad.. Get over it... I mean you can disagree just dont open up a huge freaking debate here.. Just be like I dont agree and move on!
 
Planterz said:
So you're saying that if a cop catches you with a HALO he'd let you go if it didn't have that ZOMG SO WICKED!!! half-centimeter notch on the backside of the blade? Riiiiight. You're really stretching here, and you know it.

FWIW, I've had a cop comment on my Scarab once. He saw the dual glassbreakers sicking out of my pocket and asked if it was a Makora (older Makoras came with 2 GBs, and Scarabs came with 1 GB and 1 screw). I said no, it's a Scarab, I just put 2 GBs on it, handed it to him, he fired it, closed it (had to use 2 hands:D), and handed it back saying "cool". He was a regular customer at my pizza store who would come in late at night and we'd chat about knives. First conversation started when I ID'd the Benchmade auto he carried. Gotta love Arizona.:thumbup:
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I know I'm stretching it but guess what? It's all personal tastes, you cant criticize the fact if I said that notch makes it look "tactical" or "goofy" Because I THINK it looks tactical and or goofy, and at that point IT IS tactical or goofy looking to me and that's the whole point of my argument. Do you get it now? It doesn't matter what the actual function of it is, if you think it is "X" then it is "X" X could be cool looking, tactical, mall ninja, ect ect. And you could narrow it down to elements like handle design, blade shape, ect ect. And no argument to another person talking about what his criticizing points are on the blade design or handle or locking mechanisms looks, vs your arguement on the functionality of the design will ever be successful because at the end of the day it still LOOKS like "X" to him even though you convinced him that it has to look like "X" for "Y" to work.

As nutnfancy would say it you are arguing about the first type of cool (functionality) against the second type of cool (looks and intrinsic value) and it gets NOWHERE. Because someones response to the way a blade looks or feels is immune from criticism because it's how HE feels and will ALWAYS feel despite it's role in it's functionality.
 
Gadgetaholic said:
Maybe they can, but I don't think pics of a guy with deep cuts on his back means they can - I don't think you generally would cut someone's back while defending yourself.
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Maybe deep cuts on the back mean that knives can also inflict cuts in front or on the limbs? I dunno...seems logical to me. Maybe you should try photoshopping the cuts on a picture of a person facing the camera if your imagination is lacking.
 
Whatever. I think guns look pretty silly without triggers, cars look silly without wheels, and toasters look silly without heating elements, but your opinion might differ. If you think a tiny notch in a HALO's blade looks ridiculous, even if it is integral to its function and purpose, then I can't argue with your taste, no matter how wrong and uninformed you are.

This is tacticlol:
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The notch on the HALO is not.

EDIT: I would however say that to me pretty much any S/A OTF knife is "tacticlol" in general. Cool as hell, but far less practical than most any other kind of knife you can carry. Whether or not it needs a little notch on the spine of the blade to keep it retracted.
 

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To each his own - this is a cool thread! Tactic-lol :)
 
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Planterz said:
First conversation started when I ID'd the Benchmade auto he carried. Gotta love Arizona.:thumbup:
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Just gotta say that embodies one of the best parts of being a knife nut. I did something similar with an LEO around here and his "off-duty carry" (a BM Griptilian). I had one to match in my own back pocket at the time. That was a cool moment.

Now, feel free to continue the argument over what is/isn't "tacticool"/"tacticlol"...or don't. your choice.
 
I don't think the Spyderco Civilian/Matriarch is "tacticlol". Certainly it has some visual appeal as a wicked looking blade to some people, but in this case form follows function. The blade is a result of design for a specific use. The wicked appearance is secondary. As opposed to Mantis, Dark Ops, and many Strider (particularly the "Nightmare grind) knives which were deigned to look "wicked", without any thought to practicality.

Spyderco designs knives for practical applications. Some others design knives to sell to morons at the mall.
 
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