Tacticlol Knives

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stealthchaser13 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Ninja-Forearm...e=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1276403320&sr=8-1
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edit: its not exactly called tactical, but by the looks of it, I believe its supposed to be "tactical"...honestly, I call it a joke
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OMG, THAT is worth the $12 just to show people who think collecting knives is dumb!!!!!
 
I don't see the point of the Civilian. The only time you can use a knife is when faced with lethal force. That would mean a weapon or multiple attackers. The attacker is probably also wearing clothes. That could mean zippers, snaps, buttons, watches, jewelry, etc. They generally also have a skeleton full of bones. You are going to be fighting. That means unpredictable and random actions, distances, and forces. The Civilian is not meant to be used in a controlled utility role because the blade will break. It will still break in self defense. It also will not stab, back cut, be stronger than a fixed blade, or match the reach of a baseball bat, lead pipe, and especially a firearm.

I view the MTs in a similar same way. The notch is necessary for the particular lock & firing mechanism. It is also where the tip will snap off.

I had a Matriarch, and am getting the sprint run. I carried a 0.150" spear point for the short time I was a police officer. The few autos I've had were button locks and not OTFs.
 
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The Civilian was created at the behest of a law enforcement agency for a last-ditch self defense knife that didn't require special training to use. Somebody asked, Spyderco delivered. It's not like the Americanized Tanto, which is an answer to a question that nobody asked. It's not "an attempt" to appeal to the "less-than-rational side of people". It's a very specific tool for a very specific situation for a very specific group of people who asked for it. Certainly they've sold more Civilians to people just because it looks wicked than they have to their intended market, but at least they don't advertise the knife certain other companies might (and do).
 
Planterz said:
The Civilian was created at the behest of a law enforcement agency for a last-ditch self defense knife that didn't require special training to use. Somebody asked, Spyderco delivered. It's not like the Americanized Tanto, which is an answer to a question that nobody asked. It's not "an attempt" to appeal to the "less-than-rational side of people". It's a very specific tool for a very specific situation for a very specific group of people who asked for it. Certainly they've sold more Civilians to people just because it looks wicked than they have to their intended market, but at least they don't advertise the knife certain other companies might (and do).
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Intent is irrelevant. If it looks like a mall ninja knife, it is one.
And sorry for your Spyderco-oversensitivity. You can rag all you like on Cold Steel, it won't offend or even annoy me, whereas your blood pressure seems to reach the danger level. Despite what you seem to think, Spyderco is not god's own smithy.
 
philwar said:
Intent is irrelevant. If it looks like a mall ninja knife, it is one.
And sorry for your Spyderco-oversensitivity. You can rag all you like on Cold Steel, it won't offend or even annoy me, whereas your blood pressure seems to reach the danger level. Despite what you seem to think, Spyderco is not god's own smithy.
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The people scorning fanboys are worse then the fanboys themselves.
 
Planterz said:
Whatever. I think guns look pretty silly without triggers, cars look silly without wheels, and toasters look silly without heating elements, but your opinion might differ. If you think a tiny notch in a HALO's blade looks ridiculous, even if it is integral to its function and purpose, then I can't argue with your taste, no matter how wrong and uninformed you are.
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You have missed the point of the entire thread. It is entirely subjective and personal. What one person finds tacticLOL another does not, as you have clearly demonstrated.

I could say the 2 glass breakers on your knife look stupid. I could tell you the extra one has no function. What would that serve? My opinion is just that...mine.
 
viva la said:
People scorning the people scorning fanboys are worse than the people scorning people scorning fanboys themselves.

Lighten up Francis
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Someone is having trouble string together a coherent sentence. Perhaps it's a little early for the kids to be posting?
 
Gadgetaholic said:
Maybe they can, but I don't think pics of a guy with deep cuts on his back means they can - I don't think you generally would cut someone's back while defending yourself.
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I saw this photo posted up with a story a long time ago.

The story was that a really large guy (in the photo) squared off (so to speak) with a MUCH smaller guy in a fight. The smaller guy pulled a "knife" and the big guy figured that because he was so much larger and stronger he could overcome the smaller guy with brute force.

Apparently the big guy rushed and grabbed the little guy (bear hug) in attempt to get him to take him down and make him submit, and the little guy began aerating his back with the blade.

Self defense? You can call it what you like. If the story I was presented was true, I think it serves to validate the idea that a knife can help an otherwise outclassed combatant defend his life from a much larger enemy.

Honestly, I do not care, and I can not believe I am even posting this...it has NOTHING to do with this threads OP.
 
viva la said:
You have missed the point of the entire thread. It is entirely subjective and personal. What one person finds tacticLOL another does not, as you have clearly demonstrated.

I could say the 2 glass breakers on your knife look stupid. I could tell you the extra one has no function. What would that serve? My opinion is just that...mine.
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I would say that neither have any function, as I've never used either to break glass. In fact, 2 is probably less functional than 1. And I rarely even carry the knife anymore, so fat lot of good either does if it's not even in my pocket. But I still like the way it looks. Definitely the most "tacticlol" knife I have.

The notch on the blade of a S/A OTF like the HALO is not there for aesthetics. It's not there for some imaginary tactical situation that 99.9999% of us will never encounter (like breaking a glass window with the butt of your knife). It's integral to the function of the knife. I would definitely agree that the notch detracts from the attractiveness of the knife; who would want a random chunk taken out of their blade if it served no purpose? But it's not random and it serves a purpose. I think it's ugly, but since I understand its purpose, I don't think that it's "ridiculous".
 
philwar said:
And sorry for your Spyderco-oversensitivity. You can rag all you like on Cold Steel, it won't offend or even annoy me, whereas your blood pressure seems to reach the danger level. Despite what you seem to think, Spyderco is not god's own smithy.
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I've practiced law for 18 years, and have written in the range of 1000 legal opinions for a gov't agency. I have only encountered one case involving a knife fight, in which 4 drunks went at it with 2 knives. One had a cheapy gas station folder, or it may have been a Byrd. He swung around in a 180 arc, catching the other guy in the throat. The injured guy immediately stopped being an a-hole, and died from blood loss at the hospital several hours later.

My very limited experience is that most "tactical" knife discussion is horse crap. What matters most in a knife fight is having a sharp blade and being either lucky or unlucky. Sure, other factors come into play like quick deployment, reach, blade profile, etc., but in my view thats all pretty much academic. In the case I'm talking about, the dispositive factor was either the presence of bad luck, or good luck, depending on your perspective.

Again, just my opinion, and if you think I don't know what I'm talking about, you may be right.

This is not legal advice. :thumbup:

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Top knife inflicted a mortal wound. There is nothing "tacticool" about it. Actor's buddy had the bottom knife, which inflicted only a superficial wound.
 
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