Tanto Advice

Started the habaki, and was on a hot-streak. then i decided to solder. it was my first attempt and it was sloppy. now i have a habaki that wont fit to the tanto. that "gunk" in the red box aside from being ugly is preventing the fit.

Any suggestions to remedy this, or is it start-over time?

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i used the following with my bernzomatic torch:

solder, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HYQI3C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
flux, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00425FUW2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
is it hard (silver) or soft solder ? you could probably get most of it out with a hacksaw blade, thin file, and sandpaper wrapped around a piece of thin sheet metal, using it like a saw.
 
Did you ever find any alder? I have some and I don't mind sending you a piece but it's not at all stabilized. I believe it's kiln dried as opposed to air dried too but if that would suit your needs I would be glad to send some.
 
Did you ever find any alder? I have some and I don't mind sending you a piece but it's not at all stabilized. I believe it's kiln dried as opposed to air dried too but if that would suit your needs I would be glad to send some.

MBurks, i have not...that would be fantastic. thank you!
 
hard solder. i'll give the hacksaw blade and sand paper a try. i was hoping to save the habaki. thanks for the reply john.
 
You always have to file fit the habaki after hard soldering it together. It would end up very sloppy otherwise. You do the inside first, using a needle file, ground down piece of hacksaw blade, and small burrs in a Fordham/Dremmel. If necessary, adjust the tang and machi a bit to make a good fit. Then when the habaki is a snug fit on the blade, finish and shape the outside of the habaki. The little bit of metal left inside the habaki to seat against the shoulders ( machi) is called the machi-gane.

I also have plenty of alder. Most is already split to make tsuka/saya. If MBurk's piece isn't big enough, and you want a piece long enough, I will be glad to send you a suitable length. It is fully dried and ready to go.
 
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thanks Stacy. I've never handled a blade/habaki. Should the habaki slide on easily or w/some light manipulation? Also, is light hammering of the copper a no-no at this point?
 
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What I have left are cutoffs from other projects, I have 2 pieces left and they are odd shaped so I was going to cut a piece to send.

I just measured and it's 1 3/4 thick not 2 inches like I thought, but I can cut wider and longer (to a point).

So what would be ideal? I assumed a 2x 6 piece would be plenty, and the bigger the piece the higher the shipping so wanted to send enough to get the job done but not raise shipping cost.

Shamu I did get your email, I'm going to take a couple pictures and you can tell me what to cut and send.

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This is the largest piece I have. There are a couple of screw holes in one side.

The distance between the screw holes is 6 and1/2 inches so I was going to cut in between and send you that.

That would leave you with a piece 6 1/2 inches long, 3 inches wide, and 1 3/4 inches thick.

Would that be enough for you?
 
Hammering the habaki as you fit it is the normal way to sneak up on a perfect fit. You want to end up with a habaki that slides on fairly snug - not too tight, not loose at all. If it is loose, just squish it from the sides (while not on the blade) a bit and it will snug up when slipped back on the nakago. If tight, a few taps with a small ball peen or brass hammer will move it. About 75% of the habaki should be past the machi. Sometimes, I fit it so 90% is past the machi, and only a little is seated on the machi. A steel "guard fitting tool" can be made by welding two pieces of 1/2X2" steel bar with a 1/2X1/4" spacers between them. Assemble with a clamp so the nakago (tang) will slide between them. Once arranged so you can move the nakago in and out, weld the spacers to the heavier bars. Grind the ends flat and square. This can then be slid down the nakago and slapped against the habaki to seat it firmly and shape the machi-gane to be a perfect fit. The same tool (or one like it) can be used to seat a slotted guard or tsuba on a tang.

To allow final filing and fitting, I always leave plenty of extra metal on the habaki ends and in the thickness of the metal used. On the tsuba end, it allows the end to be filed smooth after being seated to the machi. On the blade end extra thickness in the habaki and extra on the end allows beveling and making a perfect fit to the blade where it enters the koi-guchi. Extra metal in all dimensions ( length, width, thickness) makes all final shaping and finishing simpler. The rule in every language is the same - "It is far easier to remove excess than it is to add on even the smallest shortage."


The tsuba and seppa will be what makes the habaki seat so it doesn't move. On an aikuchi style ( no guard type tsuba), the tsuba is merely a spacer the same shape as the tsuka .... basically a bolster. You still use seppa with aikuchi. They will be sanded to make a smooth fit with the tsuka/tsuba/saya once assembled. I like a contrasting seppa on each side of the tsuba in an aikuchi style mount. It has the same look as spacers on each side of a bolster on a western knife. You can also use a stack of seppa in place of the tsuba. All sorts of metals and materials work. Stacked leather with metal spacers is one option. The traditional is water buffalo horn and your choice of brass/nickel/copper/silver. The reason seppa are used in the koshirae is to adjust how tight the fit-up is. Too tight - use thinner or fewer seppa. Too loose, use thicker or more seppa. I usually don't do any shaping of the seppa until after everything is fitted up and tight. Then disassemble the koshirae and shape and engrave the seppa as desired. I like a simple brushed or coarse sanded finish on the exposed seppa, and often use the same finish on the habaki.
 
This is the largest piece I have. There are a couple of screw holes in one side.

The distance between the screw holes is 6 and1/2 inches so I was going to cut in between and send you that.

That would leave you with a piece 6 1/2 inches long, 3 inches wide, and 1 3/4 inches thick.

Would that be enough for you?

Yah, i could definitely work with that. thanks!
 
I pulled a piece of saya wood about 18" long. It is already split for fitting the blade. I got your PM, and will send it out soon. You inlet the slightly thicker side to make the recess.
 
I sent a piece too, hope it works for you.

Hope to see some pictures of the finished blade!
 
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