Tate Vermeulen unhonest person - he didn't replied Hati S30V carbon and didn't pay

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It looks like Tate sold the first knife right here on BF when he was supposed to send it back to Dyna, or Dyna's buyer from Ebay. It is possible that it was a different knife, but he states that he just received the knife last week. The timeline lines up.

The emails aren't very clear though, it looks as if Tate was trying to sell it on behalf of the sender. We need more information as to why it was listed by Tate, and then stated sold, and never arrived to any destination.
 
to have long story short I was no doubt about honest of Tate, that's why I've sent him the second knife Hati M390 carbon free of charge to change first wrong knife Hati S30V carbon. When he got two knives it were two options - sell Hati S30V carbon somewhere in US or send to 90503. After one week approximate I've asked Tate send the knife to US 90503 and he confirmed that have done it by first mail and after that he didn't replyed at all. This is the main issue - I still haven't any info regarding knife (still undelivered to 90503) and don't have a communication with Tate.
Regarding shipping from US to Russia if someone don't know it's extremely dangerous to do, because of custom and some restrictions for TNT, Fedex, UPS, DHL, SPSR.
I would think that people in US are honest and could solve the problems.
 
Well, Tate certainly should address the fact that this other/wrong knife was sold by him yet was supposedly on it's way in the mail to OP in CA?
Something is not adding up. Keeping an open mind, but there is some explaining to do here.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Just because it is always a good idea to point this out ...

Insurance and tracking are ways to cover us in case of loss.
Use Registered Mail on high-dollar items and you won't suffer loss.

Read the FEEDBACK forum stickies!
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Exactly, and he's been here long enough to know the rules.
Why in the heck would anyone ship an expensive knife with no insurance or tracking ?
Tate could've at least added tracking for a very small fee. Then all would know where the knife is, and if it was shipped.

I hope it was shipped and does show soon, but with no tracking no one really knows if it shipped but Tate.
Good luck OP, and give it a few more days.
If it doesn't show by the end of the week hopefully Tate will give you a refund.
 
I'm not sure that Post in US works so slowly - 2 weeks has gone after Tate told about knife shipping by first mail.
Email from my warehous in California:
"we tried to process your email with subject "21238 - first mail", but unfortunately our system wasn't able to find any information about the expected package."
 
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my dealings with tate are 100% solid, don't know op, but sounds like drama and private conversations upset tate, and I don't even think that, but after reading all this, i can see where tate would grow tired of hearing all this. Plus look at the title, when yoou call someone dishonest, and I don't think tate is, and then you got Mr.jcp1969 stirring it, seems tate is getting it hard, for someone I would send my house keys to. Tate should have sent with tracking number, but tate's no pcs of junk. You can bet on that. At this point I think anyone would be upset. two weeks is no time, I've got one going to Russia myself now been 27 days.
 
JCP1969 said:
Hi Alex,
could you post the hati S30v fedex tracking # ?
thanks
James
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This is address where I've sent both knives Hati:
Tate Vermeulen

(( lets hold off on posting address & phone number ))

first knife was shipped on 3th of February - tracking N. is 803683892382 Fedex.
 
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I don't think anybody is questioning that Dynabrade shipped both knives and that Tate V. received them. We've established that via the admission of BOTH parties involved. Dynabrade can provide all the tracking numbers he wants, but it won't tell anybody anything that's not already known.

The question NOW is, what happened to the first "wrong blade steel" knife that Tate was either supposed to 1) sell and send the money to Dynabrade, or 2) ship the knife to a US location specified by the OP (Dynabrade).

At first, it appeared that Tate had told Dynabrade (and everyone in this thread) that he had shipped the knife to Dynabrade's US address (but without insurance OR tracking), though now, it appears that Tate sold the knife instead.

Unfortunately the "for sale" thread doesn't show who Tate did or did not sell the knife to.

Either way, it looks like Tate owes Dynabrade $850 OR the knife. If the knife was shipped and shows up? Great. Close the thread and move on. If it was shipped and doesn't show up? Tate needs to pay the OP for the knife and think about paying a little extra for tracking and insurance next time.
 
knife to a gunfight said:
Either way, it looks like Tate owes Dynabrade $850 OR the knife. If the knife was shipped and shows up? Great. Close the thread and move on. If it was shipped and doesn't show up? Tate needs to pay the OP for the knife and think about paying a little extra for tracking and insurance next time.
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That's what it looks like to me. D did alot that he didn't have to to make it right. The one mistake was reselling the knife before in his possession and that isn't the concern of any party here, it's between him and new buyer.

Tate owes D a knife or cash.
 
Faith in all of humanity under threat with that people like Tate Vermeulen. I would never have believed that unhonest people live in US. It seems that people are lucky that still live in a society and are covering by same people. I can't say about all, but I'm sure a lot of indifferent who live side by side and even can't help..
I'm really disappointed, I've tryied to do my best that customer could be satisfied, but victim cost too much for me.
For moderators could you please investigate this moment and try explain to Tate - if he sold my knife Hati S30V carbon to someone, then pay to me in paypal - I've sent invoice or find where is knife is and resend to me by Fedex with tracking number and confirmation. I'll pay shipping cost in US! Thank's a lot for understanding in advance.
 
What we all know here is two things:

1. Tate received both knives.
2. Tate does not have proof that he sent it back, has not paid the seller for the one knife, and now this sale of same exact model of "missing knife"

I would think it is imperative for Tate to tell his side of the story based on these known facts. Until then, not so sure I would toss him the keys to anything - much less my house.
 
Gastonknife said:
What we all know has not paid the seller for the one knife, and now this sale of same exact model of "missing knife"
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small remark: I've asked Tate try to sell Hati S30V carbon by himself and after one week we've agreed to send the knife to my US destination, but here is issue - no shipment, no money.
 
If no any reply then Tate has wet reputation here and it clear that he is thief and no one can be sure in honest of Tate.
The thief cann't sell in right place if rules are applied on BF. I'm strongly disappointed that moderators even don't read feedbacks and they do their best only in top messages.
 
The address and phone of Tate were hide - only this thing is easy for moderators (it's seems).. Where the truth?
 
Dynabrade said:
The thief cann't sell in right place if rules are applied on BF. I'm strongly disappointed that moderators even don't read feedbacks and they do their best only in top messages.
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Unbelievably Uncalled for.....

To be bluntly honest....
You yourself decided to circumvent Ebays policy against accepting offers for listed items offline and behind their backs. Then you shipped your buyer the wrong knife and decided to trust someone you didn't even know and ship him a second knife before receiving a return on the first knife. You yourself decided to forfeit any and all protections that ebay or paypal may have given you.

Then you come to this forum and expect that the moderators here will be able to correct a situation you caused yourself by your poor decisions?
The best that we here can do is ban offenders to protect the community and advise members to read the stickies to avoid these type of problems.
I'm strongly disappointed that you fail to accept responsibility for your own actions.
 
Dynabrade said:
The address and phone of Tate were hide - only this thing is easy for moderators (it's seems).. Where the truth?
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As Karda just said, the truth is this whole mess is your fault. You are mad at Tate for not fixing your mistakes. But I won't let you post his personal information here while this problem is still unsolved, and have trolls harassing him. We don't work that way.
 
Karda said:
You yourself decided to circumvent Ebays policy against accepting offers for listed items offline and behind their backs. Then you shipped your buyer the wrong knife and decided to trust someone you didn't even know and ship him a second knife before receiving a return on the first knife. You yourself decided to forfeit any and all protections that ebay or paypal may have given you.

Then you come to this forum and expect that the moderators here will be able to correct a situation you caused yourself by your poor decisions?
The best that we here can do is ban offenders to protect the community and advise members to read the stickies to avoid these type problems.
I'm strongly disappointed that you fail to accept responsibility for your own actions.
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I agree with you that it was my fault that I've shipped second knife free of charge (like an expensive "gift") without getting back previous one. But laws in custom in Russia are very stupid and very dangerous send something to Russia - especially expensive things by USPS or even USPS express. It impossible to send by Fedex, TNT, DHL, UPS for private person - you don't know probably this. That's why it was offered to sell in US and after a week send to US warehouse.
It's strange situation at all, but it happened and this concern can be solved here, becuase Tate is selling knives and people should know who leave close.
 
Dynabrade said:
I agree with you that it was my fault that I've shipped second knife free of charge (like an expensive "gift") without getting back previous one. But laws in custom in Russia are very stupid and very dangerous send something to Russia - especially expensive things by USPS or even USPS express. It impossible to send by Fedex, TNT, DHL, UPS for private person - you don't know probably this. That's why it was offered to sell in US and after a week send to US warehouse.
It's strange situation at all, but it happened and this concern can be solved here, becuase Tate is selling knives and people should know who leave close.
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Believe it or not, many people here know the dangers of shipping to Russia. Many here will not do so because of this.
Some sellers have had good luck and others have had bad luck. It sincerely is a crapshoot and a seller is at the mercy of Russian customs service, their postal system and the buyers honesty.

Just exactly what is it you wish us to do?
We can instruct Tate to send you money, but we cannot force him to.....
We can ban his account, but rightfully, because of your culpability in this situation....we should also ban your account.
Is this what will satisfy you?
 
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