Teenage Carrier?

[GarageBoy]

Keep it outta school..
JRubeus..which school are you in? (Midwood High School, Brooklyn NY, here)
NYC has a law, no carry til you're 16 or something like that

 

[JRubeus]

Goldstein. How goes life in the most overcrowded building on Earth?

I'm legal for carry on age and so forth, but I'm very distrustful of police usage of these laws. I can't see a teenager NOT getting a lot of shit over a legal knife, slipjoints included. Just keep it in your pocket, only use it when you have to, and try to avoid publicizing it.

How did the threat campaign of random metal detector checks go over at Midwood? We had a protest planned at Goldstein. I love how they made a huge fuss about that, did it at 3 highschools that have had about 4 violent incidents in the last 10 years, confiscated 2,000 cell phones, 900 iPods, and 2 box cutters....

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

I cannot comment at all on the legal issues (there may be some, there may not), especially since I don't know where you are, but I will say this:

I fully support the idea of any responsible person carrying a knife. Knives are useful. That utility does not start when a person turns 18 years old. If a person is a teen, let's say, and is responsible and mature, there should be no impediment to them carrying this tool. I would recommend, though, that if you want a blade on you and don't want too much hassle, you should get a Leatherman multi-tool of one model or another (perhaps a Juice, or the Wave) which contains a knife blade among numerous other tools. That much more justification for you to be carrying it.

-Jeffrey

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

What ever you do never bring any pocket knife to school. My friend found out the hard way. He forgot that he had a SAK in his bag from a boy scout trip, and some how a teacher saw it. He was expelled for the year.

That teacher ought to be ... okay I won't say it but suffice it to say I think that bad things ought to be done to such a ninny loser jerk of a teacher.

The teacher should have simply taken the kid aside, said, "Look, you're a good kid, but the policy would have you in big trouble for having that in school, so my advice to you is to leave it home so you don't end up expelled."

The policy is just STUPIDITY EPITOMIZED. When did the idea of punishing people before anything wrong is done become normalized in our society?! No one is telling the teacher he is fired for having a pencil even though the pencile could be jammed into someone's eye to kill them!

-Jeffrey

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

be discreet and be responsible. DO NOT TAKE IT TO SCHOOL. my brother is a schoolteacher, and he's seen middle school students expelled for carrying swiss army knives.

IN-EX-CUSABLE!

Punish the kids who are smart enough and self-reliant enough to carry a useful tool on them. Reward those who are so ill-prepared for life that if they happened upon a car accident and had to free someone from a stuck seatbelt they'd have to yell, "Hey, does someone have a knife?!"

The more I read about good kids suffering the wrath of such idiotic no-brain policies, the more infuriated I get. And this is the law of the land! :thumbdn:


-Jeffrey

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

I've left knives in my pockets on accident when I was still in high school. I went to the officer and told them that I was out hunting the weekend before and forgot it was in my jacket. They held the knife for me (but the secretary opened it and couldn't figure out how to close a liner lock), and let me take it with me at the end of the day.

Just be straight up with people about it and you wont have any problems.

YOU MUST BE JOKING. I HOPE YOU ARE JOKING.

This kind of thing gets people arrested. The people who don't recognize the utility of knives make the rules, and then you advocate going to those very same people and admitting this "honest mistake" and you expect them to not throw the book at you?

I would say that your experience is aberrant. No way would I go to the officer and admit I had the knife when I could simply keep it in my freakin' pocket til the end of the day.

Honestly, what is the thinking behind not just keeping quiet about it and taking it home??

Serial confessor?

-Jeffrey

 

[JRubeus]

Haha. A know a lot of teachers who EDC and they turn a blind eye, but they don't want to see it. Some schools actually allow slipjoints under 3" or 2".

 

[Hawaiian]

There is no reason for a kid to carry a knife at school. What would someone need to cut at school that is worth being expelled for?

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

I carried a knife from elementary school through college graduation. It is a different world today, and kids are getting too sheltered, PC BS is taking over.

I always carried a Buck 110 or Swiss army knife in class, mostly good for sharpening pencils during tests or while taking notes from a lecture. I would be expelled for this in the modern Learning penitentiaries.:barf:

 

[ERdept]

I carried a knife since i was 14. I don't have a problem with any teen doing so, so long as they were responsible and didn't give knife folks a bad name.

cliff

 

[Mentor]

I encourage any legal knife carry (and the protesting of laws that prohibit knives). I carried a Buck when I was young, and a spyderco delica in my mid teens. In the latter case, I did so in violation of my high school's policy on such things, which in hindsight could have been disastrous.

Responsible knife carry ought to be encouraged, particularly among youth. I can't imagine why we would want to produce high school graduates who are incapable of simple tool use, have no respect (or appreciation) for cutting instruments, and cannot see mangoes as viable snacks at work

It has been sad to watch the securitization of schools that has taken place over the last 10-15 years. I still skip a beat when I read about metal detectors, zero-tolerance policies for SAKs, and the like. One of the long term effects of this will be fewer pocket knives handed down generationally in the future, as the concept of knife-carrying becomes increasingly discouraged.

- Mike

 

[sph3ric pyramid]

If you've ever attended a 'bad' school, then you know that the schools' prohibition of edged tools is completely reasonable.

I don't particularly mind these efforts *within schools*. Outside of them, it's a different story.

 

[underaged!]

Be responsible, don't ruin my fun.... :thumbup:

 

[Esav Benyamin]

... and no one calls a hammer a weapon!

Sometimes they do!

 

[Pete1977]

IN-EX-CUSABLE!

Punish the kids who are smart enough and self-reliant enough to carry a useful tool on them. Reward those who are so ill-prepared for life that if they happened upon a car accident and had to free someone from a stuck seatbelt they'd have to yell, "Hey, does someone have a knife?!"

The more I read about good kids suffering the wrath of such idiotic no-brain policies, the more infuriated I get. And this is the law of the land! :thumbdn:


-Jeffrey

What can I say. It was in Tampa. :jerkit:

I remember during my 9th grade english final my buck lite- with the ranger blade and the finger groove handle- fell out of my pocket in the middle of class

pete

 

[Byrom Hermo]

sfs08, I say good for you. Carry. You know when and where you can and you'll just have to live with the restrictions. It sucks that things are the way they are now but you're stuck growing up in a time that has criminalized a pocket knife. Very Sad.

 

[USAFSP]

I carried in High School but in the late 80's early 90's you didn't have to worry about that kind of thing. I don't even think anyone even really talked about it back then in Danbury CT. These days teens are out of control and 85% of them give the good 15% a bad name. Sorry guys. I go to the mall on a Saturday night with the wife to see a movie and want to smack about 50 kids in the mouth before I even get inside. Yo Yo Yo Dog. Kid I will put you over my knee and beat you sensless.

 

[JPD1998]

I carried a knife from elementary school through college graduation. It is a different world today, and kids are getting too sheltered, PC BS is taking over.

I always carried a Buck 110 or Swiss army knife in class, mostly good for sharpening pencils during tests or while taking notes from a lecture. I would be expelled for this in the modern Learning penitentiaries.:barf:

Me too, in fact on the days we had Cub/ Boy Scout meetings after school we typically wore our uniforms including our knives in plain view on our belts. Hard to believe , but it's true...

 

[WarRaven]

My son is into knives like me or any us now.

He is in high school, and we are pretty much accepted that is the only place he can not be with one on him.

It bothers us all, and on the flip side of it, i remember a 110 or a LB in pocket through school, however i could have went through my school years without it too and not been any worse off.

The part of schools that scares me if they had them, if it gets stolen during gym or something and is used in a bad way and because we edc that the knife in question be linked backed to an innocent owner, guilty of owning it, but not guilty of removing it from another person and using in any crime based activity.

Any age can carry a knife is the short of it, the maturity of the owner warrants or dictates if it is right or not. Use it maturely, right on, use it any other, here comes da law.

Every man an woman, needs a chance at everything, and should be given it untill they, the indivdual screws up, and should be noted for future reference.

WR

 

[G3]

My son is into knives like me or any us now.

He is in high school, and we are pretty much accepted that is the only place he can not be with one on him.

It bothers us all, and on the flip side of it, i remember a 110 or a LB in pocket through school, however i could have went through my school years without it too and not been any worse off.

The part of schools that scares me if they had them, if it gets stolen during gym or something and is used in a bad way and because we edc that the knife in question be linked backed to an innocent owner, guilty of owning it, but not guilty of removing it from another person and using in any crime based activity.

Any age can carry a knife is the short of it, the maturity of the owner warrants or dictates if it is right or not. Use it maturely, right on, use it any other, here comes da law.

Every man an woman, needs a chance at everything, and should be given it untill they, the indivdual screws up, and should be noted for future reference.

WR

I dont agree with Rubeus' post. There is no need to EDC a knife in school. Especially a school in NYC. Even if the person carrying is responsible, there are alot of people who aren't and god help you if some loser grabs the knife and uses it on yourself or someone else.