Gents, i may not have much (or any) feedback on these boards but i stand behind everything i sell 100%. My username on watchuseek forums is the same (you can PM me there). I recently opened a sales thread () where i offered 3 Strider knives for sale.
SmedleyButler wanted to buy the SnG DGG but pointed to my lack of feedback and requested that i send the knife to him first, promising to pay and leave stellar feedback on receipt. After a lengthy discussion i finally agreed. The knife was sent fully insured using priority mail (included in the price) and this morning i received an angry PM from mr SmedleyButler telling me that he wants to send the knife back as he "suspects" it is a fake. Before i can even respond to the PM he posts in my sales thread. I respond via PM providing the buyer with a link to an online receipt/history of purchase of the knife at KnifeArt.com asking SmedleyButler to call them up to verify it if he is still in doubt. I also offer to have the knife sent to KnifeArt and/or Strider for authentication. This has absolutely no effect on SmedleyButler. He also tells me "you sold this knife before" - where clearly i never did. I ask for an ounce of proof and get nothing. He then continues to post in my sales thread while sending me a PM saying that i should forget what that he thinks its a fake and just consider the fact that he just does not want it anymore and wants to send it back.
Now i ask you gents - is this acceptible behavior? I bend backwards, pay for 2-day shipping, offer the actual receipt (i have receipts for all 3 Striders as well as the used one i sold before) - all of this without seeing a cent from the buyer and now i have to accept it being sent back to me (in god knows what shape if even the same knife) and eat the time and cost already invested?
After i tell this person that this is mail fraud this is the response i get:
"You can go fuck yourself and I'll throw this piece of shit in the trash, or you can give me your mailing address and I'll send it back to you, at my expense. This is my last message to you. If you are right and it isn't a fake, then what's the problem? If I'm right, then the only mail fraud has been committed by you."
Now my reputation is being trashed by someone who DID NOT EVEN PAY FOR WHAT HE RECEIVED, ignored all presented proof and responded in the way you see above. Not cool at all.
SmedleyButler - if you received the knife and changed your mind for whatever reason (lack of funds? saw another one you wanted more? It didn't fit your grip well?) - you could have explained it to me and we could have worked things out but what you did is just unacceptable. This is no way to treat anyone, especially someone who did everything possible to satisfy you while handing you an expensive item without seeing a cent from you.
Shame on you SmedleyButler.
My Strider receipts are available upon request should anyone doubt anything i stated in my sales threads or this post.
To everyone reading this: I would never buy or sell a clone/fake knife (or anything for that matter). If i list an item as flawless - it is. I accommodate most requests, i never refuse payment as goods and services, i answer all questions and can supply all of the proof requested whenever it may be requested. I obviously made a mistake trusting this individual but this will not make me not trust the next guy - i am just never ever sending anything prior to receipt of full payment. As for SmedleyButler - i firmly believe in the saying "what goes around comes around" and i hope that one day he understands why he shouldn't have done what he did.
Edit: as requested I posted (page 3) a photo of the printed receipt I received from the dealer that sold me this knife.
Additionally, just because I am staying cool, calm and polite does not mean that I take being treated like shit lightly. Neither does it speak of weakness. On the contrary - I simply chose not to sink down to the level of behavior displayed by the accuser. Trust me, I am not ok with this at all and I am taking this matter very seriously.
SmedleyButler wanted to buy the SnG DGG but pointed to my lack of feedback and requested that i send the knife to him first, promising to pay and leave stellar feedback on receipt. After a lengthy discussion i finally agreed. The knife was sent fully insured using priority mail (included in the price) and this morning i received an angry PM from mr SmedleyButler telling me that he wants to send the knife back as he "suspects" it is a fake. Before i can even respond to the PM he posts in my sales thread. I respond via PM providing the buyer with a link to an online receipt/history of purchase of the knife at KnifeArt.com asking SmedleyButler to call them up to verify it if he is still in doubt. I also offer to have the knife sent to KnifeArt and/or Strider for authentication. This has absolutely no effect on SmedleyButler. He also tells me "you sold this knife before" - where clearly i never did. I ask for an ounce of proof and get nothing. He then continues to post in my sales thread while sending me a PM saying that i should forget what that he thinks its a fake and just consider the fact that he just does not want it anymore and wants to send it back.
Now i ask you gents - is this acceptible behavior? I bend backwards, pay for 2-day shipping, offer the actual receipt (i have receipts for all 3 Striders as well as the used one i sold before) - all of this without seeing a cent from the buyer and now i have to accept it being sent back to me (in god knows what shape if even the same knife) and eat the time and cost already invested?
After i tell this person that this is mail fraud this is the response i get:
"You can go fuck yourself and I'll throw this piece of shit in the trash, or you can give me your mailing address and I'll send it back to you, at my expense. This is my last message to you. If you are right and it isn't a fake, then what's the problem? If I'm right, then the only mail fraud has been committed by you."
Now my reputation is being trashed by someone who DID NOT EVEN PAY FOR WHAT HE RECEIVED, ignored all presented proof and responded in the way you see above. Not cool at all.
SmedleyButler - if you received the knife and changed your mind for whatever reason (lack of funds? saw another one you wanted more? It didn't fit your grip well?) - you could have explained it to me and we could have worked things out but what you did is just unacceptable. This is no way to treat anyone, especially someone who did everything possible to satisfy you while handing you an expensive item without seeing a cent from you.
Shame on you SmedleyButler.
My Strider receipts are available upon request should anyone doubt anything i stated in my sales threads or this post.
To everyone reading this: I would never buy or sell a clone/fake knife (or anything for that matter). If i list an item as flawless - it is. I accommodate most requests, i never refuse payment as goods and services, i answer all questions and can supply all of the proof requested whenever it may be requested. I obviously made a mistake trusting this individual but this will not make me not trust the next guy - i am just never ever sending anything prior to receipt of full payment. As for SmedleyButler - i firmly believe in the saying "what goes around comes around" and i hope that one day he understands why he shouldn't have done what he did.
Edit: as requested I posted (page 3) a photo of the printed receipt I received from the dealer that sold me this knife.
Additionally, just because I am staying cool, calm and polite does not mean that I take being treated like shit lightly. Neither does it speak of weakness. On the contrary - I simply chose not to sink down to the level of behavior displayed by the accuser. Trust me, I am not ok with this at all and I am taking this matter very seriously.
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