Yeah, a ball bearing flipper can be much faster than a italian stiletto, for example. I guess switchblades and balisongs are viewed as frighting knives. (Hollywood could be culprit here)
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"Thats illegal!!!"
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It's as much cultural. James Dean carried a switch blade onscreen because the movement and sound gave it a presence, but teens already carried them for the same reason. Hollywood really is a positive feedback loop with popular culture, and boy does it end up in strange places. So public attention switches on, banhammers come out, and switchblades get the ax with nunchaku, ballisongs, expandable batons, and so on. I had a teacher who was in a street gang in the 50s, and he said that one of the most effective weapons they used was chainsaw chain with one end taped up for a grip. If you were unarmed, the big car radio antennas of the day were fairly easy to snap off. But hey, let's ban switchblades.......
Thanks for the insight on that. I agree it's also a cultural thing.
My father is Italian, so I spent a part of my life in Italy and I was brought up with having knives. Where here in Holland only few people carry knives, over there many people do. The same goes for France, where it's a tradition to carry a knife. (Laguiole, for example)
My love for knives trickles down to my children (8 & 11). Both have a Vic Classic and my son got a Vic Evo Grip S18 for his 11th birthday last summer. I don't see any problems with that.
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Once, many years back, I witnessed a brawl between rival gangs. Something about people dating the enemy. Switchblades and butterfly knives were drawn, and the rumble ensued. People died.
Clearly, balisongs and switchblades should be outlawed to curtail violence between rival street gangs. Not just violence either - there was a bunch of spontaneous choreographed singing, and that was just really weird and should be banned from ever happening again.
Clearly, balisongs and switchblades should be outlawed to curtail violence between rival street gangs. Not just violence either - there was a bunch of spontaneous choreographed singing, and that was just really weird and should be banned from ever happening again.
yea it's not like opening times matter.
when i recorded my flippers opening they all took between 0.5 and 1 sec filmed at 1/8th speed, so 0.125 seconds for a slow flipper.
I have yet to spot a pocket clip in public here in Haarlem
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I have a kind of funny yet annoying story of my own. My cousin was showing off a Kershaw folder at my parents house that was bought for him. It was one of the assisted opening versions but one of my dads friends thought it was a switch blade and told my cousin that it was illegal to own it. We live in Ky, so even if it had been a switch blade, it still wouldn’t be illegal.
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Many, many years ago, an idiot at work told management that I had a weapon.
They were referring to my Spyderco Delica.
One of the managers came by, and asked to see my knife. I handed it to him, not thinking anything about it.
He said "That's not a weapon!" and explained how someone had reported me.
The idiot who reported me apparently didn't know that this particular manager has a knife collection, along with a gun collection that is bigger than mine.
Stupid people ruin everything.
They were referring to my Spyderco Delica.
One of the managers came by, and asked to see my knife. I handed it to him, not thinking anything about it.
He said "That's not a weapon!" and explained how someone had reported me.
The idiot who reported me apparently didn't know that this particular manager has a knife collection, along with a gun collection that is bigger than mine.
Stupid people ruin everything.
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The trouble today is everyone is an expert ... the internet and media throw out a tidbit and people eat up every word as the gospel ...
I remember clearly being told as a child never miss the chance to shut the hell up if you don't know what you're talking about.
Now its "if you see something say something" ... I live in a small rural area and everybody pretty much knows everybody ... and I had a box cutter with a pocket clip in my pocket and had been doing some fixes at my parents and had to go to the lumber yard for something ... before I left in walks the Sheriff who calls me by name and said it was reported and said I know it's nothing but to satisfy the new owners wife he had me take it out and showed her that's all it was ... her husband had the exact same in his pocket.
Sad part is it would have been legal if I had my Umnumzaan ... and even much more as my weapons permit covers knives including switblades (which I have no use for) ... but it the mass fear from the media and online nonsense people are scared of what there fathers and grandfathers wouldn't have left the house without.
There were at least a dozen more dangerous items I could have used as weapons hanging within 10 feet of me in their store.
Sad what the country's become from fear pushed down their throats by the media and completely unware to the point of ignorant politicians.
I remember clearly being told as a child never miss the chance to shut the hell up if you don't know what you're talking about.
Now its "if you see something say something" ... I live in a small rural area and everybody pretty much knows everybody ... and I had a box cutter with a pocket clip in my pocket and had been doing some fixes at my parents and had to go to the lumber yard for something ... before I left in walks the Sheriff who calls me by name and said it was reported and said I know it's nothing but to satisfy the new owners wife he had me take it out and showed her that's all it was ... her husband had the exact same in his pocket.
Sad part is it would have been legal if I had my Umnumzaan ... and even much more as my weapons permit covers knives including switblades (which I have no use for) ... but it the mass fear from the media and online nonsense people are scared of what there fathers and grandfathers wouldn't have left the house without.
There were at least a dozen more dangerous items I could have used as weapons hanging within 10 feet of me in their store.
Sad what the country's become from fear pushed down their throats by the media and completely unware to the point of ignorant politicians.
In Canada, they've gone out of their way to start messing with the established law. At the borders now, and import inspection, they've suddenly decided that any easy 1 handed opening knife is the same as a full automatic or balisong. (Which are illegal).
The criminal code has a fairly decent balance & is written fairly intelligently, but the import/border rules seem to be going into full fear mode. Honestly, I don't get it, it's not like we've had a bunch of recent knife attacks. For what it's worth, fixed blades are okay, so I'm planning on ordering this as my own form of protest
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/UC...ukri-black-1065-blade-tpr-handle-nylon-sheath
heaven forbid if I want a fullly push-button automatic 3 inch blade... that makes sense
The criminal code has a fairly decent balance & is written fairly intelligently, but the import/border rules seem to be going into full fear mode. Honestly, I don't get it, it's not like we've had a bunch of recent knife attacks. For what it's worth, fixed blades are okay, so I'm planning on ordering this as my own form of protest
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/UC...ukri-black-1065-blade-tpr-handle-nylon-sheath
heaven forbid if I want a fullly push-button automatic 3 inch blade... that makes sense
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Maybe they don't get out to the West Side much, or don't have a library card.....
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I bought this one. Cuz it makes sense that I can legally import a 24” machete, but not a Delica.In Canada, they've gone out of their way to start messing with the established law. At the borders now, and import inspection, they've suddenly decided that any easy 1 handed opening knife is the same as a full automatic or balisong. (Which are illegal).
The criminal code has a fairly decent balance & is written fairly intelligently, but the import/border rules seem to be going into full fear mode. Honestly, I don't get it, it's not like we've had a bunch of recent knife attacks. For what it's worth, fixed blades are okay, so I'm planning on ordering this as my own form of protest
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/UC...ukri-black-1065-blade-tpr-handle-nylon-sheath
heaven forbid if I want a fullly push-button automatic 3 inch blade... that makes sense
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KS1074/kershaw-1074-camp-18-fixed-18-blade-sure-grip-handles
Actually, a solid machete for under fiddy bucks!
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LOL! Right? It was right around that time I met my first real girlfriend, Maria. That woman caused me more problems...
Robert
I carry an in pocket knife, so quite stealthy. (Vic Bantam Alox)
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After following this thread and reading every post.
I am so happy, glad, ecsatic I live in the Free State of Arizona, USA.
I can't live with the restriction I am reading here.
Not just dealing with stupid people. (Which we do have here
Lateck,
Hate to be the bearer of tidings but, this agenda (and yes, it IS an agenda) is global and it will be forced down Arizonians throats one day sooner or later. Whether they want it...or not.
Right now, priority number one is guns. Knives will be soon to follow...bet on it.
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Been hearing that argument since I was a teen buying a Mini-14 over 30 years ago, because Dad thought that we might lose the ability to purchase such rifles. Doesn't seem to have slowed us up much in our arms race, has it? Maybe if we were all as electorally active as the Knife Rights folks we wouldn't have some of these dumba** knife laws, but participating in the voting and representative democratic process is such a bother.
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