The "Ask Nathan a Question" Thread

JearBeatus48 said:
Nathan

I have recently heard on a chopper you want the handle to be small on the inside and longer on the outside so when you grab it there is no restrictions on the palm side but with the handle to bite down on the inside not uncomfortably but a hug. With the inside being 4 inches or so and the outside being 5 to 5.25 inches.

I’m curious what is your take on this compared to your designs? I see you have a different design for your choppers for your intended purposes.

Thanks!
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Wut?
 
JearBeatus48 said:
Smaller handle and grip like the photos with the brown chopper vs your larger handle version. Is there a reason you would have a smaller handle and thinner scales? Or is it optimal to have a larger handle like yours?

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Are you talking about how you have and added grip by moving your hand to the back of the handle?

Grip towards the blade for more control, slide your hand back on the handle for a bit more power
 
JearBeatus48 said:
Smaller handle and grip like the photos with the brown chopper vs your larger handle version. Is there a reason you would have a smaller handle and thinner scales? Or is it optimal to have a larger handle like yours?

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Are those 2 knives in the same category?
Nathan's is a chopper type, and the brown one looks like not a chopper?
 
JearBeatus48 said:
Smaller handle and grip like the photos with the brown chopper vs your larger handle version. Is there a reason you would have a smaller handle and thinner scales? Or is it optimal to have a larger handle like yours?

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In your picture comparing the two knives you can see that there is a lot more contouring and the pinky side pommel is slightly less pronounced on Nathan's but there's more 3-dimensional sculping over all. A larger handle (to a point) is better for a chopper and the sculpting on Nathan's does a lot to encourage you into a couple specific grips without locking you in. The brown knife with it's more pronounced pommel might be slightly better for retention all else being equal but it's also going to be tougher on your pinky, the lack of curve on the top side isn't ergonomic, and the lack of any drop means you won't be able to get as much power into chops due to how the blade will relate to your wrist angle.

When it comes to handle ergonomics with a few use specific exceptions if someone is doing handles differently than Nathan they are going to be doing them worse. Exceptions would be stuff like the cord-wrapped Joe Watsons where the intent is low profile carry and a very secure grip rather than prolonged use in multiple different grips. Will be interesting to see what Nathan ends up doing with a folder and the inherent constraints to handle size and design.
 
Burke said:
In your picture comparing the two knives you can see that there is a lot more contouring and the pinky side pommel is slightly less pronounced on Nathan's but there's more 3-dimensional sculping over all. A larger handle (to a point) is better for a chopper and the sculpting on Nathan's does a lot to encourage you into a couple specific grips without locking you in. The brown knife with it's more pronounced pommel might be slightly better for retention all else being equal but it's also going to be tougher on your pinky, the lack of curve on the top side isn't ergonomic, and the lack of any drop means you won't be able to get as much power into chops due to how the blade will relate to your wrist angle.

When it comes to handle ergonomics with a few use specific exceptions if someone is doing handles differently than Nathan they are going to be doing them worse. Exceptions would be stuff like the cord-wrapped Joe Watsons where the intent is low profile carry and a very secure grip rather than prolonged use in multiple different grips. Will be interesting to see what Nathan ends up doing with a folder and the inherent constraints to handle size and design.
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Can you please explain more....I'm not sure which you are referring to in the brown handle?

"the lack of curve on the top side isn't ergonomic, and the lack of any drop means you won't be able to get as much power into chops due to how the blade will relate to your wrist angle."

-What drop?
 
Crag the Brewer said:
Can you please explain more....I'm not sure which you are referring to in the brown handle?

"the lack of curve on the top side isn't ergonomic, and the lack of any drop means you won't be able to get as much power into chops due to how the blade will relate to your wrist angle."

-What drop?
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The CPK has an angle in the back part of the handle that will put more force into the target
#DefnotNathan (I'm probably wrong)

Comp choppers have the same thing

The spine on brown handle .....tip to butt is a straight line

CPK chopper is not
 
Burke said:
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When it comes to handle ergonomics with a few use specific exceptions if someone is doing handles differently than Nathan they are going to be doing them worse. Exceptions would be stuff like the cord-wrapped Joe Watsons where the intent is low profile carry and a very secure grip rather than prolonged use in multiple different grips. Will be interesting to see what Nathan ends up doing with a folder and the inherent constraints to handle size and design.
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Different. Wouldn’t say necessarily worse, really depends on the application …. Nathan’s chopper handles are great to keep a knife in the same position in hand all day. CPK‘s experience in competition shows, IMO. When you look at his butcher knives, the handles are different. The UF is different too, for a reason.

Sometimes, for instance, it’s good to be able to move around (back and forth on the handle) though. In the sense of a Kephart or an Axe handle.

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ferider said:
Different. Wouldn’t say necessarily worse, really depends on the application …. Nathan’s chopper handles are great to keep a knife in the same position in hand all day. CPK‘s experience in competition shows, IMO. When you look at his butcher knives, the handles are different.

Sometimes it’s good to be able to move around (back and forth on the handle) though. In the sense of a Kephart or an Axe handle.

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What’s the bottom chopper? Thanks
 
yoko said:
The CPK has an angle in the back part of the handle that will put more force into the target
#DefnotNathan (I'm probably wrong)

Comp choppers have the same thing

The spine on brown handle .....tip to butt is a straight line

CPK chopper is not
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Not sure of the spelling, but I call that cant/kant. The dropped angle. Yes, I know what You mean.... I must of misunderstood him, I was thinking he was talking about the butt/pommel. But how you described it seemed right.
Thanks.
 
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