The Bad--pappy1959 - Tim Balda

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Bottom line,,,A sellers problems are his, not the buyers. I'm sick to death of reading posts where someone lays out all their problems as an excuse not to do the right thing. It's simple,,If you don't have time to ship the item you've sold,,If you don't actually have the item you've sold,,If you don't have the f*cking money to buy gas to get yourself to the post office to ship what you've sold then maybe you shouldn't be on the internet trying to sell in the first place.
To suggest that someone is a "good person" when they've conducted themselves this way is ridiculous.
 
Mr. Balda.

I hope things work out for you. Its hard for me to see someone going through so much tragedy in their personal and professional life. Good luck and keep your head up!
 
This is the FEEDBACK forum, where we share our good and bad online experiences. It is not trial by internet. We strongly encourage people to settle up offline rather than bringing disputes here.

Tim Balda did not make himself available offline. He only responded after the discussion developed its own momentum. Of course other members joined in -- on both sides now -- since posting a dispute to crashing silence would indicate no one else cared, and the party at fault might as well not respond. So we support our friends.

1. Had Tim Balda simply stated that he failed in communicating with his customers, and was now clearing up the problems, he would have gotten all the credit he has actually gotten for doing so, and the discussion would have ended on that positive note.

2. By adding a tale of woe which none of us needed to know, he dragged out the proceedings, and gave others encouragement to chime in, further extending the discussion. With every extension, opportunities for unpleasantness increased.

3. In response to that unpleasantness, Tim Balda asserted his right to respond, to defend himself, thereby engaging in an internet dispute. The odds of that going well are obvious to those of us who spend much time here.

When you're in a hole, stop digging. Tim had filled in the hole at step 1. He dug it progressively deeper at steps 2. and 3. The way to stop an internet dispute is ... to stop. Let it go and let it die.

A sure sign that an internet dispute is taking on a life of its own is infighting among the bystanders. Let's not.
 
Agreed!

Much as I'd like to say the matter is closed I cannot yet as Paypal informed me that the refund could take up to 10 days to clear.

So from my end, it is as Tim says in the hands of Paypal at the mo. As soon as all is well you will all know.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
This is the FEEDBACK forum, where we share our good and bad online experiences. It is not trial by internet. We strongly encourage people to settle up offline rather than bringing disputes here.

Tim Balda did not make himself available offline. He only responded after the discussion developed its own momentum. Of course other members joined in -- on both sides now -- since posting a dispute to crashing silence would indicate no one else cared, and the party at fault might as well not respond. So we support our friends.

1. Had Tim Balda simply stated that he failed in communicating with his customers, and was now clearing up the problems, he would have gotten all the credit he has actually gotten for doing so, and the discussion would have ended on that positive note.

2. By adding a tale of woe which none of us needed to know, he dragged out the proceedings, and gave others encouragement to chime in, further extending the discussion. With every extension, opportunities for unpleasantness increased.

3. In response to that unpleasantness, Tim Balda asserted his right to respond, to defend himself, thereby engaging in an internet dispute. The odds of that going well are obvious to those of us who spend much time here.

When you're in a hole, stop digging. Tim had filled in the hole at step 1. He dug it progressively deeper at steps 2. and 3. The way to stop an internet dispute is ... to stop. Let it go and let it die.

A sure sign that an internet dispute is taking on a life of its own is infighting among the bystanders. Let's not.
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i think ya hit the nail on the head esav..............
 
However, I take issue with what Brownshoe has accused Tim of concerining his statements about Buck Knives!

Now, I know absolutely NOTHING about what happened between Buck Knives and Tim's company. I don't know the Buck family and I don't know Tim Balda, but I DO know how to read, and what I read from Brownshoe really upset me!

brownshoe said:
In addition, you made some unfounded accusations about the Buck family. I was astounded given their 60 year reputation in this business. Mr. Buck's succinct response shows that they treated you more than fairly, but you sullied their name in this thread after they helped you out.
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Name those "unfounded accusations," Brownshoe, or better yet, quote them? If you can't do it, and I'm quite sure you can't, hopefully, people will finally realize that you say a heck of a lot of things you just can't back up! I just read and re-read the entire thread, and all I could find was that Tim stated that Buck had failed to pay his company in a timely manner for an order. Chuck Buck posted stating Buck was unable to immediately pay Tim's company for an order. Where are the "unfounded accusations?"

What exactly were you "astounded" about, given "their 60 year reputation in this business?" How does "Mr. Buck's succint response show that they treated Tim's company more than fairly?" How did Tim "sully" Buck's name?

If YOU fail to answer these questions, Brownshoe, it will say a heck of a lot about YOUR character! I sure hope you're as quick to answer these questions as you were to jump on the bandwagon and label a person a "con-man!"

My $.02,
3G
 
Chuck Bybee said:
Brownshoe continues to step in shit and keep his shoes brown. I’ve been surprised for years that he has not been banned for his personal attacks. He does not contribute anything except negativity. He too cheap to pay for a membership. Too bad the reputation points are gone. When the system was in place people could see what others thought of his contributions by his negative rep points.
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+1:thumbup:

What especially interests me is why Brownshoe, who, on these very forums, tried to extort Spyderco out of a knife, feels he's someone who is fit to comment on who is a "con-man" and who is of 'low character.':thumbdn:
 
Man, some of you guys are "slow learners". Mr. Balda has demonstrated a pattern of behaviour that repeats itself. this is far more significant than "bad things" happening as a one off occurence.
brownshoe has stated facts and drawn a sensible conclusion.
roland
 
3Guardsmen said:
+1:thumbup:

What especially interests me is why Brownshoe, who, on these very forums, tried to extort Spyderco out of a knife, feels he's someone who is fit to comment on who is a "con-man" and who is of 'low character.':thumbdn:
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The reason his shoes are brown is because shit runs downhill. Could you imagine a walking pile of poop, six feet tall with "non-brown" footwear?:rolleyes:

He can't pony up a few bucks and help BFC as a paying member but he sure can pony up an over abundance of pony shit..............:barf:

Opinions are like assholes and BFC has Brownshoe:jerkit:
 
When Brownshoe makes a stance, it usually follows that the actual truth can be determined by the opposite of his stance.
 
gus, wolfmann601, my eyes are still watering from laughing so hard at your posts. there's nothing like a good laugh to start the morning :thumbup::D.
 
Mr. 3G

Read the first post in response. As stated above, if Buck ruined Mr. Balda, the case would not have been dismissed. If the failure to pay by Buck ruined his business, then he would still have a case and could probably even ask for damages. However, Mr. Balda's Amherst Cutlery has been around well after 1/2007.

Per Mr. 3G comments on old Spyderco stuff. I could go rehash it, but these days I'll just say what I did the last time you brought it up. Read earlier in that thread if one cares to know the truth. Per the facts in that thread Mr. Glesser made an offer of a gift, because I was a severely dissatisfied customer due to multiple problems starting with defective knives and ending with poor customer service. The offer of a gift was not followed through, however I did follow through on my offer to cease commenting on Spyderco customer service, since my history with that group at Spyderco is too old to be relevant.

The reason I got involved in this thread, is that I've been ripped off pursuit of my passion for knives by makers and dealers. I sucked it up and took it like a man. In addition, unlike some, I've been around awhile and attend shows around the country. Outside of this forum, I've witnessed con jobs on the floors of many knife shows and hear some of the horror stories from both the victims and bystanders. Also, as an American, when someone of my country cheats a foriegner, I feel this impugns the good name of this country. My only "dog in this show" is to try and bring some reality to the Oprah-style confessional "I'm only human forgive me" whine. IMHO, this is tactic of a person who is incorrigible...however all religous faiths and moral philosophies hold open the door for change and redemption. I hope this is true in this case.

If you wish to keep the thread alive by insulting me, good thing I'm a duck :)

Maybe we should all let the last posts in this thread be testimony to Mr. Balda's redemption. I will.
 
As far as I'm concerned, Tim isn't trying to con anyone. Con Men don't ever make things right. Amherst Cutlery has had a couple of periods that I'm sure Tim would rather never have happened, but he has made things right. As far as things that have happened in the past, that's all he can do.

If Tim decides to keep Amherst Cutlery going, we will get the chance to see how things go in the future. The past can't be changed, but Tim can sure as heck make sure it never happens again. Why don't we turn back the screws and wait to see what happens. I think the knife industry needs companies like Amherst Cutlery, as long as they take care of business in a professional manner.

I'm personally going to wish Tim all the best in whatever he decides to do in the future.
 
When Brownshoe makes a stance, it usually follows that the actual truth can be determined by the opposite of his stance.
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If you wish to keep the thread alive by insulting me, good thing I'm a duck
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Huge difference between "insults" and truth. Chuck did very well in summing up your contributions here and your antics.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
As far as I'm concerned, Tim isn't trying to con anyone. Con Men don't ever make things right. Amherst Cutlery has had a couple of periods that I'm sure Tim would rather never have happened, but he has made things right. As far as things that have happened in the past, that's all he can do.

If Tim decides to keep Amherst Cutlery going, we will get the chance to see how things go in the future. The past can't be changed, but Tim can sure as heck make sure it never happens again. Why don't we turn back the screws and wait to see what happens. I think the knife industry needs companies like Amherst Cutlery, as long as they take care of business in a professional manner.

I'm personally going to wish Tim all the best in whatever he decides to do in the future.
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+1 :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
rprocter said:
Man, some of you guys are "slow learners". Mr. Balda has demonstrated a pattern of behaviour that repeats itself. this is far more significant than "bad things" happening as a one off occurence.
brownshoe has stated facts and drawn a sensible conclusion.
roland
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Roland,

With all due respect, you too have made accusations that have completely false regarding this issue. Tim is trying to resolve these issues and I feel that he will and will be glad to eat my words if he does not. Through the grapevine I have heard accusations that I am pretty sure started with you that were preposterous.
 
Udate. I have received a refund from Tim via PP which is in process. Tim has also told me that knife is in route also as a mea culpa for the troubles.
 
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