The Beer Scout Knife

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They're coming back? That's awesome!
 
I signed up for the wood.

I have a chestnut sawcut from the last run. I ended up not liking the handle as much as I thought. Still new in tube. How could I go about having those changed to stag or something cool?
 
Was just trolling eBay the other day for Navy and Beer Scout knives, and wouldn't you know it...

Put myself down for a jigged bone Scout, looking forward to putting that caplifter to good use!
 
I placed an order but it will be the last time I do so unless there is more information provided about the knife. I assume demand is so high that it doesn't seem to be an issue in simply stating the type of handles will be wood, jig bone, micarta or acrylic. I'm very disappointed in an offering with merely a generic description as to what the buyer will be receiving. I guess as long as we (me included) continue to place orders without much information there isn't much incentive for the manufacturer or dealer to provide such information as the knives will sell regardless. FWIW I will not order such a knife in the future based on a generic description. I guess it is a seller's market and the buyer's are not very selective or particular about what is being purchased so unfortunately we as buyer's encourage such practices.
 
To me, the descriptions, with the exception of which shields will be used, are as clear as day. Mike is very good at relaying the information that GEC has. Plus, you're not going to get Dymonwood from GEC...it's going to be a quality item
 
I agree that Mike has done his best about relaying the information, but at the same time can you tell us what type of jig bone, acrylic or micarta will be used in the knives?
 
Vinifera said:
I placed an order but it will be the last time I do so unless there is more information provided about the knife. I assume demand is so high that it doesn't seem to be an issue in simply stating the type of handles will be wood, jig bone, micarta or acrylic. I'm very disappointed in an offering with merely a generic description as to what the buyer will be receiving. I guess as long as we (me included) continue to place orders without much information there isn't much incentive for the manufacturer or dealer to provide such information as the knives will sell regardless. FWIW I will not order such a knife in the future based on a generic description. I guess it is a seller's market and the buyer's are not very selective or particular about what is being purchased so unfortunately we as buyer's encourage such practices.
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I would agree with you if not for the pre-order situation being outside of GEC's control. (As far as I understand) GEC tells the dealers what knives they are planning on making, but they may not know the exact details yet. If the dealer then goes ahead and accepts orders for these knives before they are finalized, or even in production for that matter, you can't really put blame on GEC. GEC could just opt to not share ANY details with dealers, but then they would not know how many to make.

Personally, I don't mind a bit of a surprise, so I jump at the opportunity to reserve knives.
 
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I would agree with you if not for the pre-order situation being outside of GEC's control. (As far as I understand) GEC tells the dealers what knives they are planning on making, but they may not know the exact details yet. If the dealer then goes ahead and accepts orders for these knives before they are finalized, or even in production for that matter, you can't really put blame on GEC. GEC could just opt to not share ANY details with dealers, but then they would not know how many to make.

Personally, I don't mind a bit of a surprise, so I jump at the opportunity to reserve knives.
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My point wasn't to fix "blame" as I have purchased many GEC knives, most of them via Mike.

Right or wrong the market for GEC knives appears to be driven by SFO's rather than the traditional manufacturer/dealer network. That's fine and is apparently the way the market is when it comes to GEC products. Again my whole point was that as a buyer I would prefer to know what I am purchasing rather being offered a knife from a generic description provided by a dealer and if I don't elect to purchase I will lose the opportunity to purchase the knife. GEC via the dealer SFO network is in a unique position in the industry when it comes to selling knives.

I can appreciate the fact that you don't mind a surprise but at the same time I would prefer not to be surprised and prefer to know exactly what I am buying which is why I indicated I will not purchase a knife based on a generic description in the future. Obviously that won't affect what others do, but it's just my personal preference. Others obviously don't apparently care, which is why such knives can be sold with generic descriptions and why the SFO sales method remains successful.
 
Buzzbait said:
I went crazy on the preorder. I grabbed a jigged bone, wood and a micarta Beer Scout, as well as a micarta boy's knife. I hope these are done in the same awesome natural canvas micarta we've been getting.

I personally love the beer scout blade configuration, so I'm happy. If I'm only getting one cutting blade on a knife, I prefer it to be sheepsfoot.
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Where did you order them from?
 
Vinifera said:
My point wasn't to fix "blame" as I have purchased many GEC knives, most of them via Mike.

Right or wrong the market for GEC knives appears to be driven by SFO's rather than the traditional manufacturer/dealer network. That's fine and is apparently the way the market is when it comes to GEC products. Again my whole point was that as a buyer I would prefer to know what I am purchasing rather being offered a knife from a generic description provided by a dealer and if I don't elect to purchase I will lose the opportunity to purchase the knife. GEC via the dealer SFO network is in a unique position in the industry when it comes to selling knives.

I can appreciate the fact that you don't mind a surprise but at the same time I would prefer not to be surprised and prefer to know exactly what I am buying which is why I indicated I will not purchase a knife based on a generic description in the future. Obviously that won't affect what others do, but it's just my personal preference. Others obviously don't apparently care, which is why such knives can be sold with generic descriptions and why the SFO sales method remains successful.
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There's more specific info on the SFO situation in the "let's talk GEC" thread. Regarding preordering and level of detail, you're correct in a way a bout the supply and demand at work. I ordered a jig bone, wood, and micarta knowing that whichever ones i don't like can be easily offloaded on the secondary market. And i'll have no regrets about "wish i would have gotten that one".

Edit to add: i usually have a hard time parting with whatever i receive because they almost always turn out so nice! Shhh don't tell the wife. [emoji13]
 
Vinifera said:
My point wasn't to fix "blame" as I have purchased many GEC knives, most of them via Mike.

Right or wrong the market for GEC knives appears to be driven by SFO's rather than the traditional manufacturer/dealer network. That's fine and is apparently the way the market is when it comes to GEC products. Again my whole point was that as a buyer I would prefer to know what I am purchasing rather being offered a knife from a generic description provided by a dealer and if I don't elect to purchase I will lose the opportunity to purchase the knife. GEC via the dealer SFO network is in a unique position in the industry when it comes to selling knives.

I can appreciate the fact that you don't mind a surprise but at the same time I would prefer not to be surprised and prefer to know exactly what I am buying which is why I indicated I will not purchase a knife based on a generic description in the future. Obviously that won't affect what others do, but it's just my personal preference. Others obviously don't apparently care, which is why such knives can be sold with generic descriptions and why the SFO sales method remains successful.
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Very Easily Solved! Don't Pre-Order! Wait until the knives are actually made and then you can see every detail about them! And anyways a Pre-Order is not a Purchase, it hasn't cost you a cent.
 
rma100 said:
Very Easily Solved! Don't Pre-Order! Wait until the knives are actually made and then you can see every detail about them! And anyways a Pre-Order is not a Purchase, it hasn't cost you a cent.
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Absolutely right. There's only a select few dealers that offer the pre-order. Plenty of other dealers just get the knives and list them. The details will be made available as the manufacturing of the knives gets close. GEC will post the WIP pics. If you like what is being made, there's no need to be locked into a reserve, you can find the knife you want at the other dealers.

While I like the reserve and use it often, in this case, I did not. No need to blindly "commit" to a knife. I'll wait to see the final build details and then go from there. With a tiny bit of legwork, you can still find knives that everyone thinks are sold out through reserves at some dealers months down the line.

With regards to the SFO, none of these are except the Oily Creek Bone for Collector Knives which isn't even a sure thing. The rest of the Beer Scouts and Boy's Knives will be available everywhere.

As for the cover materials, I hope the jig bone is something different. I'd like to see a jigged oiled bone.
 
Reserve is a much better term than pre-order; as that implies there is a cost. Some do charge, thus lending more to the feel that you are committed - but we do not. Matter of fact, reserves can be adjusted online at any time up until the factory ships a knife. Generally those that have major concerns about the program are those that haven't actually used it yet.

Also, we are using the word SFO a lot with these "undetermined" slabs. Obviously any SFO will be clearly documented as to the slabs; as those must be provided to GEC at time of order. It is only the general production knives that will come in early as undetermined; and may stay that way until the week of production. It is no advantage to GEC to advertise well in advance the slabs that will be used; as their dealers have already committed by that time. It would be nice, as a dealer, to know this - but I suppose GEC feels they have a couple months to worry about that.
 
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